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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-30-2008, 09:23 AM Thread Starter
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Bush Aids Speak Out

I'm sure not all of the quotes are this one sided, but comparing him to Palin, really?
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WASHINGTON – Hurricane Katrina not only pulverized the Gulf Coast in 2005, it knocked the bully pulpit out from under President George W. Bush, according to two former advisers who spoke candidly about the political impact of the government's poor handling of the natural disaster.
"Katrina to me was the tipping point," said Matthew Dowd, Bush's pollster and chief strategist for the 2004 presidential campaign. "The president broke his bond with the public. Once that bond was broken, he no longer had the capacity to talk to the American public. State of the Union addresses? It didn't matter. Legislative initiatives? It didn't matter. P.R.? It didn't matter. Travel? It didn't matter."
Dan Bartlett, former White House communications director and later counselor to the president, said: "Politically, it was the final nail in the coffin."
Their comments are a part of an oral history of the Bush White House that Vanity Fair magazine compiled for its February issue, which hits newsstands in New York and Los Angeles on Wednesday, and nationally on Jan. 6. Vanity Fair published comments by current and former government officials, foreign ministers, campaign strategists and numerous others on topics that included Iraq, the anthrax attacks, the economy and immigration.
Lawrence Wilkerson, top aide and later chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell, said that as a new president, Bush was like Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee whom critics said lacked knowledge about foreign affairs. When Bush first came into office, he was surrounded by experienced advisers like Vice President Dick Cheney and Powell, who Wilkerson said ended up playing damage control for the president.
"It allowed everybody to believe that this Sarah Palin-like president — because, let's face it, that's what he was — was going to be protected by this national-security elite, tested in the cauldrons of fire," Wilkerson said, adding that he considered Cheney probably the "most astute, bureaucratic entrepreneur" he'd ever met.
"He became vice president well before George Bush picked him," Wilkerson said of Cheney. "And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush — personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum."
On other topics, David Kuo, who served as deputy director of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives, disputed the idea that the Bush White House was dominated by religious conservatives and catered to the needs of a religious right voting bloc.
"The reality in the White House is — if you look at the most senior staff — you're seeing people who aren't personally religious and have no particular affection for people who are religious-right leaders," Kuo said.
"In the political affairs shop in particular, you saw a lot of people who just rolled their eyes at ... basically every religious-right leader that was out there, because they just found them annoying and insufferable. These guys were pains in the butt who had to be accommodated."

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Please name the last President who came into office more prepared than Bush. The only one that comes to mind was Bush Sr. Carter, Reagan, and Clinton all had no national experience and had only executive experience at the state level.

I read it and I am still trying to find the major insult.

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Please name the last President who came into office more prepared than Bush. The only one that comes to mind was Bush Sr. Carter, Reagan, and Clinton all had no national experience and had only executive experience at the state level.

I read it and I am still trying to find the major insult.
You think being compared to Palin is a compliment? Maybe its just me but I would have a problem if a "top aide chief of staff to a former Secretary of State" was comparing me to her.

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You think being compared to Palin is a compliment? Maybe its just me but I would have a problem if a "top aide chief of staff to a former Secretary of State" was comparing me to her.
It's called grasping at straws, its an interesting concept. I'd call Bush a lot of things but inexperienced is not one of them. Wasn't he the governor of a state with a huge GDP for a number of years? What state was that again?
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It's called grasping at straws, its an interesting concept. I'd call Bush a lot of things but inexperienced is not one of them. Wasn't he the governor of a state with a huge GDP for a number of years? What state was that again?
I agree. So would you have trouble finding the insult in that comment?

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Do you feel Katrina was his fault? I never have read much about his actions, so I really can't form an opinion.
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You think being compared to Palin is a compliment? Maybe its just me but I would have a problem if a "top aide chief of staff to a former Secretary of State" was comparing me to her.
I would be more insulted by being compared to Obama and his lack of experience. Palin is more qualified to be President IMO than Obama.

How would you rank the last 6 people to be elected President as far as experience and qualifications go?

I would rank them in the following order:
1. Bush Sr. (He had 8 years as VP)
2-5 Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and Bush arguably being very close and almost indistinguishable in experience.
6. Obama (A very distant 6th BTW)


I guess it depends upon your opinion of Palin if you think being compared to her was an insult. BTW, didn't he refer to Bush as being similar to Palin when he came into office? Hell, every one of the last 6 except Bush Sr. was similar to Palin as far as experience.

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some people don't know this, but bush actually created katrina and sent it to destroy homes and kill people. it's true!
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some people don't know this, but bush actually created katrina and sent it to destroy homes and kill people. it's true!
Don't forget he used his magic mind bubble technique to keep them all there, so they couldn't evacuate days before it hit!

Ninjas also drained all of the buses fuel tanks too!!! (Ninjas were trained by bush)

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Don't forget he used his magic mind bubble technique to keep them all there, so they couldn't evacuate days before it hit!

Ninjas also drained all of the buses fuel tanks too!!! (Ninjas were trained by bush)
he also went back in time and told the engineers that it would be okay for hospitals that were below seal level to put emergency generators in the basement rather than the roof.

that evil BASTARDO!
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Do you feel Katrina was his fault? I never have read much about his actions, so I really can't form an opinion.
Of course it was ...... remember Bush hates black people .
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We don't tolerate that sort of racially insensitive talk around here young man.

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That whole article was based on opinion and did not provide a single fact to back up any of those alegations. And the idea that the handling of Katrina was Bush's fault is a bit short sighted. The federal gvmnt could not do anything until Kathleen Blanco(D) asked for help. If you want to place blame for Katrina, there's your target.

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