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Dems already annoyed with Obama?

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Democrats: Obama needs hands-on economic approach
By JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writer Jim Kuhnhenn, Associated Press Writer – 55 mins ago


WASHINGTON – Democrats are growing impatient with President-elect Barack Obama's refusal to inject himself in the major economic crises confronting the country. Obama has sidestepped some policy questions by saying there is only one president at a time. But the dodge is wearing thin.

"He's going to have to be more assertive than he's been," House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., told consumer advocates Thursday.

Frank, who has been dealing with both the bailout of the financial industry and a proposed rescue of Detroit automakers, said Obama needs play a more significant role on economic issues.

"At a time of great crisis with mortgage foreclosures and autos, he says we only have one president at a time," Frank said. "I'm afraid that overstates the number of presidents we have. He's got to remedy that situation."

Obama has maintained one of the most public images of any president-elect. He has held half a dozen press conferences, where he has entertained question after question about the economy, the mortgage crisis, and the flailing auto industry. But he has meticulously avoided dictating policy or pressing members of Congress to embrace specific remedies.

Earlier this week, Obama declined to take a stand in a debate over the source of money for an auto loan package. The dispute has divided Democrats and hindered progress on assistance for the industry. At issue is whether to take money from the $700 billion Congress authorized to help the financial markets or to take it from a previously approved loan aimed at manufacturing more energy efficient cars.

"I think it's premature to get into that issue," Obama told reporters at a Chicago news conference Wednesday.

He also was asked whether he worried that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson might begin spending the second half of the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program money before Obama takes office as president on Jan. 20. Again, Obama demurred.

"Until Secretary Paulson indicates publicly that he's drawing down the second tranche, the second half of the TARP money, it would be speculation on my part to suggest that that money's going to be used up," he said.

Obama did stress that a significant component of the fund should be used to reduce the number of foreclosures. But he did not specify a particular remedy.

Presidents-elect typically spend the transition period assembling their cabinets, their White House staff and preparing to take the reins of power. But this transition is occurring at an extraordinary time, with bad economic news mounting by the day and with one of the country's major industries begging for a hand to keep from collapsing.

Two senators involved in trying to salvage the auto companies have said Obama could help move the process along and should become more engaged.

"The Obama team has to step up," Sen. Christopher Dodd, chairman of the Senate Banking Committee and one of the lead negotiators, said Nov. 21 in Hartford, Conn. "In the minds of the people, this is the Obama administration. I don't think we can wait until January 20."

Two days later, Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich., a point man in helping his state's main industry, called on Obama to help resolve the dispute over money for the auto loan package.

"It would be very helpful if the president-elect would become more involved in resolving the issue over the source of the funds," he said. "I want him to offer his assistance. He is a person who can really bring people together."

Frank, shrewd and quick-witted, also poked fun at Obama's calls for a "post-partisan" governing environment in Washington. Frank predicted that regulatory legislation aimed at preventing abuses related to subprime mortgages and credit cards stood a much better chance next year, when Democrats have greater majorities in the House and Senate.

"It is a grave mistake to assume that parties are irrelevant to this process," he said. "My one difference with the president-elect, about whom I am very enthusiastic, is when he talks about being post-partisan.

"Having lived with this very right wing Republican group that runs the House most of the time, the notion of trying to deal with them as if we could be post-partisan gives me post-partisan depression," Frank said


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"He's going to have to be more assertive than he's been," House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., told consumer advocates Thursday.
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Wait, you mean Obama is ducking and dodging instead of answering questions and taking a stand? Who would have guessed after his dazzling Senate career and his upfrontness with his birth certificate, and all other forms of information citizens have requested.


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What do you expect from someone that voted 129 times "present" while he was a senator
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Wait, you mean Obama is ducking and dodging instead of answering questions and taking a stand? Who would have guessed after his dazzling Senate career and his upfrontness with his birth certificate, and all other forms of information citizens have requested.


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What do you expect from someone that voted 129 times "present" while he was a senator
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In obama's defense, he is not the president.

How many of you started working at another place a month before your start date, just because you wanted to get a jump on work?
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In obama's defense, he is not the president.

How many of you started working at another place a month before your start date, just because you wanted to get a jump on work?
Weren't some people complaining that he WAS working before he is officially president? And now they're mad about it

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Bush needs to finish his term. He has said he would keep Barry in the loop with big decisions.

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In obama's defense, he is not the president.

How many of you started working at another place a month before your start date, just because you wanted to get a jump on work?
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I think what's worse is said Democrats can't/won't make a decision without the nod from Obama. It speaks volumes about how they do business. They either cannot speak for themselves, or they are afraid to because if the whole thing backlashes the blame will be on their backs.

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I think what's worse is said Democrats can't/won't make a decision without the nod from Obama. It speaks volumes about how they do business. They either cannot speak for themselves, or they are afraid to because if the whole thing backlashes the blame will be on their backs.
I think it shows what kind of (lack) leadership we'll see in the next 4 years. They may tear themselves apart.

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I think it shows what kind of (lack) leadership we'll see in the next 4 years. They may tear themselves apart.
We can only hope.

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This is one thing i will say i am liking about obama. He seems to understand that even though he is pres. elect, he isn't president and its not his place to jump in and take over. I'm a firm believer that the president knows way more about what is going on than any other one person. I'm sure Barry is now "in the know" and is letting our president and his staff take care of what needs to be done on his end.

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This is one thing i will say i am liking about obama. He seems to understand that even though he is pres. elect, he isn't president and its not his place to jump in and take over. I'm a firm believer that the president knows way more about what is going on than any other one person. I'm sure Barry is now "in the know" and is letting our president and his staff take care of what needs to be done on his end.
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LOL! All this bailout stuff is above his pay grade....



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Obama has a tough road ahead. If he doesn't go hard core liberal like he did through the primaries the far left will hate him, if he doesn't go to the center a whole bunch, the majority of the country will eventually turn against him.

Let's wait until he gets in office though, attacking him before he even has a chance sounds like what the typical idiot liberal would do, and it's not fair to do IMO.

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Obama has a tough road ahead. If he doesn't go hard core liberal like he did through the primaries the far left will hate him, if he doesn't go to the center a whole bunch, the majority of the country will eventually turn against him.

Let's wait until he gets in office though, attacking him before he even has a chance sounds like what the typical idiot liberal would do, and it's not fair to do IMO.
I think his liberal left agenda has to be on hold right now given the state of the economy. Tax raises simply won't fly right now. Reality bites.
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maybe if they would quit worrying about the god damn dog he was getting for his kids and what his wife was going to wear to the innauguration, he would be able to give some attention to the economic crisis we are in. but damn thats a lot to ask i guess

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I think his liberal left agenda has to be on hold right now given the state of the economy. Tax raises simply won't fly right now. Reality bites.
If he is even remotely concerned with his leagcy he will never actually adopt the far left agenda that got him elected. He will run this country into the ground if he doesn't center a bunch. It appears he already has, saying he will probably not tax and spend like he promised, will not immediately pullout of Iraq, and several others.

I bet he doesn't even close Gitmo for several years. Once he sees the intel on the bad guys we have there, even his liberal ass will realize how bad it will be to have most of them released or tried in civilian courts.

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The Democrats are frustrated that Barack Obama won't formerly commit to a key issue in American politics. The harbinger for change is being unequivocal and side stepping key issues. Oh come on now. This can't be true. His voting Present 130 times in the Illinois State Senate surely couldn't have prepared us for this type of behavior.

Here comes a little immaturity on my part. Excuse me.

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