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is the term "mulatto"...

considered derogatory? From wikipedia it doesnt really say that it was a derogatory term but it does state that it has fallen out of use in the United States.

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"Mulatto is no longer commonly used in the United States. Some who prefer terms such as biracial may consider it offensive. [16] It existed as an official census category until 1930[citation needed]. In the south of the country, mulattos inherited slave status if their mothers were slaves. As for free mulattos, in Spanish and French-influenced areas of the South prior to the Civil War (particularly New Orleans, Louisiana), a number of mulattos were free and slave-owning.[17] Although it is commonly used to describe individuals of mixed European and African descent, it originally referred to anyone with mixed ethnicities; in fact, in the United States, "mulatto" was also used as a term for those of mixed white and Native American ancestry during the early census years.[16][18][19][20] Mulatto was also used interchangeably with terms like "turk", leading to further ambiguity when referring to many North Africans and Middle Easterners.[21]"
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I would consider it to be no more or less offensive as the word "Negro" would be when referring to a persons ethnicity. I personally use neither term.
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I had a mulatto girlfriend in high school. Had to tie a board on the back of my ass to keep from falling in.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at 10pm.so why is it a problem to call and bitch.it wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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If some people could think the term "black hole", when used properly in a sentence, is actually a derogatory statement, then using mulatto in a sentence could be frowned upon. And from what I understand, will punishable by death under the next presidential administration.

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I had a mulatto girlfriend in high school. Had to tie a board on the back of my ass to keep from falling in.

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I dont get it.
She had a big vagina.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at 10pm.so why is it a problem to call and bitch.it wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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Jesus Christ...the tan boy doesn't get many things obviously...lmao.
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On the other hand, mulatto is much more PC than 'high yellow'.

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That's "high yaller"
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considered derogatory? From wikipedia it doesnt really say that it was a derogatory term but it does state that it has fallen out of use in the United States.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulatto

"Mulatto is no longer commonly used in the United States. Some who prefer terms such as biracial may consider it offensive. [16] It existed as an official census category until 1930[citation needed]. In the south of the country, mulattos inherited slave status if their mothers were slaves. As for free mulattos, in Spanish and French-influenced areas of the South prior to the Civil War (particularly New Orleans, Louisiana), a number of mulattos were free and slave-owning.[17] Although it is commonly used to describe individuals of mixed European and African descent, it originally referred to anyone with mixed ethnicities; in fact, in the United States, "mulatto" was also used as a term for those of mixed white and Native American ancestry during the early census years.[16][18][19][20] Mulatto was also used interchangeably with terms like "turk", leading to further ambiguity when referring to many North Africans and Middle Easterners.[21]"

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If some people could think the term "black hole", when used properly in a sentence, is actually a derogatory statement, then using mulatto in a sentence could be frowned upon. And from what I understand, will punishable by death under the next presidential administration.

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considered derogatory? From wikipedia it doesnt really say that it was a derogatory term but it does state that it has fallen out of use in the United States.
I've never know it to be a derogatory term. I never hear people us it in conversation. It's kind of like calling a dog a canine. As such, someone would probably think your trying to insult them on the sly.

Everyone I know just says "mixed". Mixed is used as a description of someone considered black, but has a non-black parent.


Negro is not derogatory. Light skinned is not derogatory. High yellow is derogatory.

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I've never know it to be a derogatory term. I never hear people us it in conversation. It's kind of like calling a dog a canine. As such, someone would probably think your trying to insult them on the sly.

Everyone I know just says "mixed". Mixed is used as a description of someone considered black, but has a non-black parent.


Negro is not derogatory. Light skinned is not derogatory. High yellow is derogatory.
The problem is, the ignorant ones with racism filled in their minds instantly think it's derogatory without even asking what the hell the word means.

Like when someone calls me a cracker. . . i just laugh at them for thinking it's an insult.

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I've never know it to be a derogatory term. I never hear people us it in conversation. It's kind of like calling a dog a canine. As such, someone would probably think your trying to insult them on the sly.

Everyone I know just says "mixed". Mixed is used as a description of someone considered black, but has a non-black parent.


Negro is not derogatory. Light skinned is not derogatory. High yellow is derogatory.
I've heard of "yella bone" but never "High Yellow" till this thread.
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I would of thought Negro might be seen as derogatory if used by a non-African American. I know it is not derogatory in and of itself, but could possibly be perceived as such.

For the Louisiana folks, what about "coonass"?
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I've never know it to be a derogatory term. I never hear people us it in conversation. It's kind of like calling a dog a canine. As such, someone would probably think your trying to insult them on the sly.

Everyone I know just says "mixed". Mixed is used as a description of someone considered black, but has a non-black parent.


Negro is not derogatory. Light skinned is not derogatory. High yellow is derogatory.
Kind of how I see it, but let me ask, how do you feel about the state song? Not trying to be facetious, just curious. Me, I kind of think it is humorous but wouldn't trade it for any other.

I'm proud to know it was sung all across the battlefields of the civil war actually. LOL!
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Never was derogatory, insecurity caused that view of it.
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I've heard of "yella bone" but never "High Yellow" till this thread.
High yellow is usually only used by a dark skin black girl in reference to a light skinned black girl. It's connected to a "standard of beauty" issue or just plain jealousy of a better looking girl.

"Dat high yella bitch think she all that!"
“She’s only getting all that attention cause she’s high yellow.”

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We can't help it they look better than the rest.

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Kind of how I see it, but let me ask, how do you feel about the state song? Not trying to be facetious, just curious. Me, I kind of think it is humorous but wouldn't trade it for any other.

I'm proud to know it was sung all across the battlefields of the civil war actually. LOL!
What's the state song, "Texas, Our Texas"? I can't find anything wrong with that song, unless maybe if your not a Texan

Now that Dixi Land shit on the other hand, that one I can't stand. Looking over the lyrics they don't seem to be a problem, but there's just something there that makes me uncomfortable. They had me singing that song on stage with my elementary school class.

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What's the state song, "Texas, Our Texas"? I can't find anything wrong with that song, unless maybe if your not a Texan

Now that Dixi Land shit on the other hand, that one I can't stand. Looking over the lyrics they don't seem to be a problem, but there's just something there that makes me uncomfortable. They had me singing that song on stage with my elementary school class.
Sorry I was talking about yellow rose of texas. My mistake.

Just about every regiment on the battlefields marched to that song at one time or another. I'm sure the various connotations where real to them then as well. Tradition or spite either way.
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What's the state song, "Texas, Our Texas"? I can't find anything wrong with that song, unless maybe if your not a Texan

Now that Dixi Land shit on the other hand, that one I can't stand. Looking over the lyrics they don't seem to be a problem, but there's just something there that makes me uncomfortable. They had me singing that song on stage with my elementary school class.

If it's "just something there" that makes you uncomfortable, tough shit.
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If it's "just something there" that makes you uncomfortable, tough shit.
Maybe he doesn't see the real "something there"?

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Sorry I was talking about yellow rose of texas. My mistake.

Just about every regiment on the battlefields marched to that song at one time or another. I'm sure the various connotations where real to them then as well. Tradition or spite either way.
Wow. That's a new one for me. Thanks for the history. You’re probably on the right track of where the term came from.

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Briefly stated, the song is based on a Texas legend from the days of the Texas War of Independence. According to the legend, a free African American woman named Emily D. West, a mulatto and hence the reference to "yellow", seized by Mexican forces during the looting of Galveston, seduced General Antonio López de Santa Ana, President of Mexico and commander of the Mexican forces. The legend credits her supposed seduction with lowering the guard of the Mexican army and facilitating the Texan victory in the battle of San Jacinto waged in 1836 near present-day Houston.

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Wow. That's a new one for me. Thanks for the history. You’re probably on the right track of where the term came from.

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Briefly stated, the song is based on a Texas legend from the days of the Texas War of Independence. According to the legend, a free African American woman named Emily D. West, a mulatto and hence the reference to "yellow", seized by Mexican forces during the looting of Galveston, seduced General Antonio López de Santa Ana, President of Mexico and commander of the Mexican forces. The legend credits her supposed seduction with lowering the guard of the Mexican army and facilitating the Texan victory in the battle of San Jacinto waged in 1836 near present-day Houston.
This page does it the most justice.

http://www.amaranthpublishing.com/yellow.htm

So, now that you know this, the next time you see a civil war enactment with grey-clad troops marching to the song, do you think you might see it a little differently? LOL!
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Maybe he doesn't see the real "something there"?

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Huh? Go ahead and explain. I guess it's tied to some Confederate stuff.

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Huh? Go ahead and explain. I guess it's tied to some Confederate stuff.
No, what you just discovered. Ironic huh? And you thought all that redneck horseshit about "tradition and pride" was lame. Welcome to the world of forgotten history. Now you can shout "go get em, rebs! as you chuckle to yourself the next time you see a re-enactment team
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Forget not that "Dixie" was one of Abraham Lincoln's personal favorites, it has been speculated that it first originated from a pair of escaped slaves, and, most important, Elvis sang it.
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This page does it the most justice.

http://www.amaranthpublishing.com/yellow.htm

So, now that you know this, the next time you see a civil war enactment with grey-clad troops marching to the song, do you think you might see it a little differently? LOL!
I'll be sure give my best sly grin.

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That's all you can do. I do the same when I hear about Juneteenth celebrations in Chicago
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Welcome to the world of forgotten history. Now you can shout "go get em, rebs! as you chuckle to yourself the next time you see a re-enactment team
Saw one two weeks ago in White Settlement (oops ). I've got a buddy that is ate up with it. He paid $18K for a cannon.

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Nothing wrong with cannons.

Hard tack and fatback, well, you have to be pretty serious to the point of idiocy to do that on a regular basis.
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Nothing wrong with cannons.

Hard tack and fatback, well, you have to be pretty serious to the point of idiocy to do that on a regular basis.
He ain't right in the head but he's a good guy. He'd rather re-enact than fuck. Keeps trying to recruit me....to re-enact that is.

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Saw one two weeks ago in White Settlement (oops ). I've got a buddy that is ate up with it. He paid $18K for a cannon.
Remember back in 2005 when the City of White Settlement had a referendum on the ballot to change the name to West Settlement? One of those rare examples of common sense prevailed when the measure was soundly defeated by the voters.
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Remember back in 2005 when the City of White Settlement had a referendum on the ballot to change the name to West Settlement? One of those rare examples of common sense prevailed when the measure was soundly defeated by the voters.
Yep. I'm amazed the street name in Fort Worth remains. shhhh.....

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....to re-enact that is.
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Can someone tell me what the people of color want to be called today. For crying out loud, I'm concerned anything I say about them will be taken as an insult.

Negro
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American African
Nappy Head (Hey, I'm called a Tow Head, so STFU)
Spear Chucker (now that's from M*A*S*H people, alright dang, it's a white man's show, I'm sorry for all the starving pigmies in New Geeny).
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Can someone tell me what the people of color want to be called today. For crying out loud, I'm concerned anything I say about them will be taken as an insult.

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Spear Chucker (now that's from M*A*S*H people, alright dang, it's a white man's show, I'm sorry for all the starving pigmies in New Geeny).
this thread isnt for people of color, its for people of multi color.
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Apparently, anything and everything that is a term of designation is now being tagged with racial connotation.

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Can someone tell me what the people of color want to be called today. For crying out loud, I'm concerned anything I say about them will be taken as an insult.

Negro
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American African

I really don't understand the african american label? Most blacks in America weren't even born in Africa, much less even been to Africa. So African American IMO shouldn't even apply.
And for those who say, that's where there ancestors where from, doesn't hold up cause if it did we would all be running around putting where our ancestors where from before the American part. We all know the American part should be first anyway.

If you're born here, you're American, period! Sorry but if you're black your black, if you're white your white, etc..

Unless you just arrived, then you're an illegal. haha!



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Apparently, anything and everything that is a term of designation is now being tagged with racial connotation.
True, but it's not a racial slur if you call a white person:

Whitey
White Boy,
White Bread
White Devil
White Trash
Cracker
Peckerwood
Honkey
Casper
Gostie
Hoosier
Redneck
Hillbilly
Backwoods
Inbread
Skinhead

I'm sure there's more, so feel free to add to the list of non-racial slurs towards whites.

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Can someone tell me what the people of color want to be called today. For crying out loud, I'm concerned anything I say about them will be taken as an insult.

Negro
Black
Afro
African
AfroAmerican
American African
Nappy Head (Hey, I'm called a Tow Head, so STFU)
Spear Chucker (now that's from M*A*S*H people, alright dang, it's a white man's show, I'm sorry for all the starving pigmies in New Geeny).
what about moon cricket or pickaninny

I never liked the term african american or hispanic american or any of that other horse shit. if you lable yourself anything before american you should fucking leave.


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