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Obama's successful Presidency will be...

what? I am curious to see what others will gauge his first term by.

I say the following will make his first term successful:

1. No attacks on American soil.
2. The DOW is above 1250 and rising.
3. Unemployment is below 4%.
4. We have won in Iraq, the country is stable, and have only a few peacekeepers there.
5. He has less than 2 major scandals. (Yeah, he will have scandals)
6. He appoints SC judges who are moderates and not extremists.


I want to know if you voted for him along with your thoughts about what makes his first term successful.

Now, for my predictions about what will actually happen:

1. He will go far left and abandon the majority of his promises.
2. He will have major scandals and disgrace the office in Clintonesque fashion.
3. He will try and utilize Michelle like Bill did with Hillary, to push a very secular progressive agenda and further her political career.
4. Michelle will continue to put her foot in her mouth and disgrace the country.
5. He will pull out of Iraq and leave it a complete mess and blame Bush for his pull out.
6. He will be another typical politican and bring about no real change.
7. He will leave a legacy of "patheticness" rivaled only by Jimmy Carter.

Okay, let's hear yours, and you fail if all you do is bash my opinions.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2008, 07:50 PM
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Remember that successful is a very suggestive term. I'm going to try to be realistic about his "success" based on his promises. Understand that I don't believe these things will happen..

1. A balanced budget (within four years) without raising taxes any more than he has said he would.
2. Iran "convincingly" gives up its nuclear program.
3. We are drilling for more oil in the US (Obama has said he would go with this)
4. We are on the path to at least 80% energy independence in 10 years (will require more than just extra oil production)
5. Unemployment below 4% (as you stated)
6. Federal agencies return to ACCURATELY reporting economic factors like Inflation.
7. The Federal Government ADDs Social Security liabilities to the national debt so people finally get an idea as to how fucking bad it is.


What I think will actually happen.

1. Obama will cut deals with Iran and Cuba effectively lifting their trade embargoes. There will be very little verification for Iran to follow through on.
2. Obama will abandon Georgia and the Ukraine.
3. Taxes for anyone making over $100,000 will go up.
4. Social Security taxes will now apply to any income over $80,000 (right now it is exempt)
5. We will be on track for 50% energy independence within 10 years. *unless Obama pushes for new nuclear plants)
6. The Federal Gasoline tax will be raised by at least 10 cents and maybe as high as 50 cents. However this will not be for new roads. This will be for alternative energy and to subsidize Ethanol production.
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I see another carter administration, with the inherent foreign affairs weaknesses and the domestic blunders.

Surprise me.
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post #4 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-06-2008, 08:24 PM
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I'll view his entire Political Carreer as a success if he can bring a playoff system to college football.

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I'll view his entire Political Carreer as a success if he can bring a playoff system to college football.
Well now you're just asking for the impossible.

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Originally Posted by Sgt Beavis
Remember that successful is a very suggestive term. I'm going to try to be realistic about his "success" based on his promises. Understand that I don't believe these things will happen..

1. A balanced budget (within four years) without raising taxes any more than he has said he would.
2. Iran "convincingly" gives up its nuclear program.
3. We are drilling for more oil in the US (Obama has said he would go with this)
4. We are on the path to at least 80% energy independence in 10 years (will require more than just extra oil production)
5. Unemployment below 4% (as you stated)
6. Federal agencies return to ACCURATELY reporting economic factors like Inflation.
7. The Federal Government ADDs Social Security liabilities to the national debt so people finally get an idea as to how fucking bad it is.


What I think will actually happen.

1. Obama will cut deals with Iran and Cuba effectively lifting their trade embargoes. There will be very little verification for Iran to follow through on.
2. Obama will abandon Georgia and the Ukraine.
3. Taxes for anyone making over $100,000 will go up.
4. Social Security taxes will now apply to any income over $80,000 (right now it is exempt)
5. We will be on track for 50% energy independence within 10 years. *unless Obama pushes for new nuclear plants)
6. The Federal Gasoline tax will be raised by at least 10 cents and maybe as high as 50 cents. However this will not be for new roads. This will be for alternative energy and to subsidize Ethanol production.
Anyone else, especially those who voted for Obama, care to comment and give a full answer like me and the Sgt did?

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He will grant positions and add staff based on color not qualifications.
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A significant Russian military presence, including deployment of nukes, will emerge in Venezuela before obamas 4 years are up.
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He will grant positions and add staff based on color not qualifications.
As much as I don't like the bastard, he has yet to do that. A Jew and a whiteboy, so far.

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I get the feeling he is going to be great for 4 years and is going to surprise the world with the things he accomplishes. I predict this will easily get him re-elected.

I predict in his second term his true colors will show and he will serious stir up some stuff and everything really will go to hell with no turning back.
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A significant Russian military presence, including deployment of nukes, will emerge in Venezuela before obamas 4 years are up.

Submarine guys - Does this even matter? Aren't you guys parked out there, as well as their guys?

Gotta admit that that's a scary thought...
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post #12 of 13 (permalink) Old 11-09-2008, 05:21 PM
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The performance record of Russian subs is not very good. Missiles, now that's another matter.
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I get the feeling he is going to be great for 4 years and is going to surprise the world with the things he accomplishes. I predict this will easily get him re-elected.

I predict in his second term his true colors will show and he will serious stir up some stuff and everything really will go to hell with no turning back.
I was kinda thinking the same thing, play it moderate the first term, then let us have it the second term.....hopefully there won't be a second term, or year for that matter...
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