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Black Conservatives conflicted on Obama

This is so very sad. This is just a final confirmation of what Obama '08 is truly about and eliminates any remaining ambiguity.

Out of curiosity, I was reading some editorials on various black conservative forums. And some are revealing that they are being called Uncle Toms by other blacks because they support McCain. I tip my hat to these guys that are voting for their party based on the actual campaign issues and choosing to just disregard the hate mail. Even black conservatives are getting a taste of the Democratic machine of implying that if you don't support their man then you are a racist my friend. Or in their case, being called an Uncle Tom or sell-out.


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WASHINGTON (June 15, 2008) - Black conservative talk show host Armstrong Williams has never voted for a Democrat for president. That could change this year with Barack Obama as the Democratic Party's nominee.

"I don't necessarily like his policies; I don't like much that he advocates, but for the first time in my life, history thrusts me to really seriously think about it," Williams said. "I can honestly say I have no idea who I'm going to pull that lever for in November. And to me, that's incredible."

Just as Obama has touched black Democratic voters, he has engendered conflicting emotions among black Republicans. They revel over the possibility of a black president but wrestle with the thought that the Illinois senator doesn't sit beside them ideologically.

"Among black conservatives," Williams said, "they tell me privately, it would be very hard to vote against him in November."

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Williams, the commentator, says his 82-year-old mother, who also hasn't voted for a Democratic presidential candidate, has already made up her mind.

"She is so proud of Senator Barack Obama, and she has made it clear to all of us that she's voting for him in November," Williams relates. "That is historic. Every time I call her, she asks, 'How's Obama doing?' They feel as if they are a part of this. Because she said, given the history of this country, she never thought she'd ever live to see this moment."

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It's a hard decision. And to be totally, brutally honest with you guys. I'm not all the way hung out on voting for Barrack. I'm so torn. But man........MCCAIN SUCKS MUCH ARSE. sigh.

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The republican known as Martin Luther King would be turning in his grave right now too see soooooo many people focusing on race, when he fought for people to see past it.

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Just another reason why we need to go back to our old policies of only allowing landowners to vote.

Seriously though, probably half of the voters over the last several decades (since we started allowing women, blacks, robots, and dogs vote) are just plain uneducated idiots.

Maybe we need to reform who gets to vote. A process similar to getting your driver's license maybe. Questions like, "What president is pictured on the one dollar bill?", "Which city is our nation's capital in?", "What year did we gain our independence from England?", and maybe make them recite the Pledge of Allegiance and our National Anthem.

That'll weed out all non-hackers, and then they can't vote. Come to think of it, most of those probably vote Democrat every 4 years anyway.
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The republican known as Martin Luther King would be turning in his grave right now too see soooooo many people focusing on race, when he fought for people to see past it.
Abe Lincoln would be to, I mean it's been almost 150 years and we still haven't solved anything.

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Abe Lincoln would be to, I mean it's been almost 150 years and we still haven't solved anything.
According to some black people, Abe Lincoln never wanted the slaves free'd. He was forced to or some shit???

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According to some black people, Abe Lincoln never wanted the slaves free'd. He was forced to or some shit???
he hated rich slave owners... wanted blacks sent back to Affrica...
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he hated rich slave owners... wanted blacks sent back to Affrica...
Oh what the world would have been like.

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It's a hard decision. And to be totally, brutally honest with you guys. I'm not all the way hung out on voting for Barrack. I'm so torn. But man........MCCAIN SUCKS MUCH ARSE. sigh.
What a terrible fucking reason to vote for a socialist...

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I wonder if there will be a "Bradly Affect" for black conservatives? Saying they are sticking with there party but pushing the democrat button in the booth?

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"She is so proud of Senator Barack Obama, and she has made it clear to all of us that she's voting for him in November," Williams relates. "That is historic. Every time I call her, she asks, 'How's Obama doing?' They feel as if they are a part of this. Because she said, given the history of this country, she never thought she'd ever live to see this moment."
Yeah, let's not keep issues important to this country stop you from getting to see the first black president.... racist bitch.

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Would you like to use it to protect your family's lives without being prosecuted?
How do you feel about socialism?
" " Marxism?
Redistribution of wealth by the government?
Higher taxes?
Socialized health care (which has worked S-O-O-O well for the UK and Canada... )?

In my simple-ass mind, this is not a difficult choice at all. McCain wasn't my first choice, but he's the horse who's in the race and he's a damn sight better than the alternative.

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It's a hard decision. And to be totally, brutally honest with you guys. I'm not all the way hung out on voting for Barrack. I'm so torn. But man........MCCAIN SUCKS MUCH ARSE. sigh.

I have nothing against blacks, thugs yes, but hard working blacks are just like hard working whites. That being said.... I'm sure you work hard every day for your toys just like I do. Doesn't it bother you that Obama wants to take your money and hand it out to someone who is simply to lazy to make a living? Doesn't it bother you that Obama doesn't want to protect our borders. Or the fact that he is totally in favor of socialism? This is not a case of black or white, it's a case of what's best for our well being and quality of life.

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I have nothing against blacks, thugs yes, but hard working blacks are just like hard working whites. That being said.... I'm sure you work hard every day for your toys just like I do. Doesn't it bother you that Obama wants to take your money and hand it out to someone who is simply to lazy to make a living? Doesn't it bother you that Obama doesn't want to protect our borders. Or the fact that he is totally in favor of socialism? This is not a case of black or white, it's a case of what's best for our well being and quality of life.
ahem. I contract with Medicaid to take care of the elderly and disabled who can't afford healthcare.

Honestly, I think you guys are crazy to believe that he can truly acheive a Socialistic agenda in the US.

But, I'm still researching the issues. I haven't seen where Obama is handing out my money to lazy people as you guys put it. If me going from a 33% tax bracket to 36% would help eventually lower the natl debt, which will hopefully ensure that Medicaid doesn't get cut then I can take that loss. It's better to pay more taxes than to not have a job at all. (in my case)

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ahem. I contract with Medicaid to take care of the elderly and disabled who can't afford healthcare.

Honestly, I think you guys are crazy to believe that he can truly acheive a Socialistic agenda in the US.

But, I'm still researching the issues. I haven't seen where Obama is handing out my money to lazy people as you guys put it. If me going from a 33% tax bracket to 36% would help eventually lower the natl debt, which will hopefully ensure that Medicaid doesn't get cut then I can take that loss. It's better to pay more taxes than to not have a job at all. (in my case)
He may not be able to "achieve" a socialistic agenda, but he CAN put tons of socialistic programs in place. Civil Rights was a gradual process, as is "socialism".
I've voted against liberal democrats all my life, regardless of color. I will continue that tradition.

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He may not be able to "achieve" a socialistic agenda, but he CAN put tons of socialistic programs in place. Civil Rights was a gradual process, as is "socialism".
I've voted against liberal democrats all my life, regardless of color. I will continue that tradition.
If it happens it's because the people allow it. America has become Sheep. We take anything the Gov. wants to give and bend over happily.

It's hard to separate the honest poor from the lazy. I see the difference every day. (my clients and employees)

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It's a hard decision. And to be totally, brutally honest with you guys. I'm not all the way hung out on voting for Barrack. I'm so torn. But man........MCCAIN SUCKS MUCH ARSE. sigh.
I agree with you. McCain does suck much arse.

I, for the life of me, cannot understand why he picked Palin as the Veep. Was he really concerned about Alaska's 3 electoral votes?

I guess he was looking for the little fireball from outside of DC but damn there were much better choices to be had.

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If it happens it's because the people allow it. America has become Sheep. We take anything the Gov. wants to give and bend over happily.

It's hard to separate the honest poor from the lazy. I see the difference every day. (my clients and employees)
No sir. It will be because he will have a congress that will rubber-stamp anything he wants.

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If it happens it's because the people allow it. America has become Sheep. We take anything the Gov. wants to give and bend over happily.

It's hard to separate the honest poor from the lazy. I see the difference every day. (my clients and employees)
Then why are you thinking about joining the sheep? Even if it was hard to separate the honest poor from the lazy, why should I support either? It should not be my responsibility. Why should I drag my ass out of bed every morning to support some stranger. Give me my social security check now Damn it, I'm a big boy!!!



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No sir. It will be because he will have a congress that will rubber-stamp anything he wants.
Clinton basically had the same type of congress and he didn't get alot of his wants rubber-stamped.

Senators and Reps still have their constituents to deal with. They still want to be re-elected. When enough people write them letters............then they decided what to rubber-stamp.

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Then why are you thinking about joining the sheep? Even if it was hard to separate the honest poor from the lazy, why should I support either? It should not be my responsibility. Why should I drag my ass out of bed every morning to support some stranger. Give me my social security check now Damn it, I'm a big boy!!!

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Clinton basically had the same type of congress and he didn't get alot of his wants rubber-stamped.

Senators and Reps still have their constituents to deal with. They still want to be re-elected. When enough people write them letters............then they decided what to rubber-stamp.
Please remember that Clinton was nowhere near as liberal as Barry, and he didn't have Pelosi and Reid, either. It's an entirely different ballgame. Clinton was a moderate compared to Barry.

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Please remember that Clinton was nowhere near as liberal as Barry, and he didn't have Pelosi and Reid, either. It's an entirely different ballgame. Clinton was a moderate compared to Barry.
Clinton also didn't have a filibuster proof congress which we could very well have this time around...

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The republican known as Martin Luther King would be turning in his grave right now too see soooooo many people focusing on race, when he fought for people to see past it.
X2...but the evil monkey (known as racism) has shown his true self...and it is not the white man

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X2...but the evil monkey (known as racism) has shown his true self...and it is not the white man


It hasn't been the white man for a long time......



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Just another reason why we need to go back to our old policies of only allowing landowners to vote.

Seriously though, probably half of the voters over the last several decades (since we started allowing women, blacks, robots, and dogs vote) are just plain uneducated idiots.

Maybe we need to reform who gets to vote. A process similar to getting your driver's license maybe. Questions like, "What president is pictured on the one dollar bill?", "Which city is our nation's capital in?", "What year did we gain our independence from England?", and maybe make them recite the Pledge of Allegiance and our National Anthem.

That'll weed out all non-hackers, and then they can't vote. Come to think of it, most of those probably vote Democrat every 4 years anyway.
I like the way you think, you forgot to add and of "good character".
Are you sure you are not a member of the southern democrats?
You just have to love the Grandfather clause....
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It hasn't been the white man for a long time......
yeah, but it should be painfully obvious to everyone now

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yeah, but it should be painfully obvious to everyone now

People are to scared to bring out in the opening. White folks have been hit with a double standard for many years.



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I like the way you think, you forgot to add and of "good character".
Are you sure you are not a member of the southern democrats?
You just have to love the Grandfather clause....
Agreed. We're all of "good character" these days, right?

Nope, not a southern democrat. Just a native who's proud of his state.

This nationalism/"democracy" bullshit government we're running these days just isn't working. The founding fathers of this great country are rolling over in the graves as we speak. May as well become part of Europe, the way we're going.
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