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Man shoots teen defacing his McCain yard sign..

(CNN) -- A Warren Township, Ohio, man faces charges of felonious assault after authorities say he fired his rifle at two teens who were attempting to deface his McCain presidential campaign yard sign. Police say the man's sign is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs.


Kenneth Rowles, 50, pleaded not guilty to the charge Monday, according to CNN affiliate WBNS. Bail was set at $10,000.

Rowles told police he was sitting on his porch Saturday when a tan SUV pulled up and a black youth jumped out and ran toward his house, screaming, "This is for Obama."He said another male was hanging out of the passenger window screaming the same thing.

Rowles said he went inside, got his rifle and fired three shots to scare the youths away, according to a Warren Township police report.
He told officers he believes that the men "were the same two that have been destroying his McCain sign."

Just hours before the shooting, Rowles called police and said that a car had stopped in front of his house and that a black male "ran up and said something about Obama," according to the report, and "damaged his sign again."
One of the youths, 17-year-old Kyree Flowers, was shot in the arm, according to a police report. He and the second youth, Patrick Wise Jr., 16, told police they were in the car attempting to leave when Rowles fired at them.
"Kyree stated that he witnessed the homeowner trying to shoot Patrick but he was having trouble chambering a round," the police report said.
The teens admitted that they had defaced the McCain sign several times, Warren Township police Lt. Don Bishop told CNN.
Rowles' is the only McCain sign on a street full of Obama signs, he said.
Bishop said the teenagers probably will not be charged -- and are unlikely to damage campaign signs again, as the incident scared them.




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possibly the greatest sign ever. i am not sure i would try to kill someone over a sign though. i would think a punch in the jaw would be enough.

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If the guy knew for sure they had no other intention than to destroy his sign he went overboard, but going onto his property put these teens at risk. I hope he doesn't admit that he thought they were just going to damage the sign, because you can't use deadly force in most places to stop a vandal. There usually has to be an imminent threat to you or your family.

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On one side you've got a perfect example of fascist liberals who demand free speech for themselves, but want to stifle anyone who thinks otherwise.

On the other, you've got an irresponsible, ignorant gun owner who shoots a kid for messing with what was probably a free sign to begin with.

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....and neither one of the kids can even vote! They are just punks...if they would come on someones property to deface something, then they would most likely come onto his property to steal something. He is just lucky he didn't kill one....if he had it would be national news.

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Either way they had no right to do that. That man was minding his own business.
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possibly the greatest sign ever. i am not sure i would try to kill someone over a sign though. i would think a punch in the jaw would be enough.

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hahaha...i love that sign!
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Just as stupid as the dumb asses plotting to kill Obama . I hope they drop the charges on the man but chances are if they do , some minority group will raise hell and file suit against the guy .
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Just as stupid as the dumb asses plotting to kill Obama . I hope they drop the charges on the man but chances are if they do , some minority group will raise hell and file suit against the guy .
Well, Ohio's castle doctrine is very similar to texas, and has even been extended to protect their vehicle, like texas.

I predict a drawn out Joe Horn case again.

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And this is the future. I'm just waiting for the list of voters that voted for McCain to be published so they can be 'talked to' if Obama wins.
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I think the guy should get the death penalty for supporting anything with Sarah Palin's name on it, simply because she stands for reducing freedoms in America.

(I don't really believe this. I'm posting it to show the ridiculousness of shooting someone who is unarmed, over a piece of cardboard and metal/wood. I feel I have to explain myself now.)
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Hell ya...they got what they deserved in my opinion....too many thugs and people just like that around anyways. IMO this might help them in the long run. IF they do this as a teen what would they do as adults? Maybe this was a good thing in thier lessons in life.

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I think the guy should get the death penalty for supporting anything with Sarah Palin's name on it, simply because she stands for reducing freedoms in America.

(I don't really believe this. I'm posting it to show the ridiculousness of shooting someone who is unarmed, over a piece of cardboard and metal/wood. I feel I have to explain myself now.)
Just like we feel you should be shot for supporting the robbing of those successful for those who are lazy or unmotivated?
Yep, reduce freedoms and robbing people. Maybe you should be shot twice to get through the fatty exterior?

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the problem is that he reported the vandalism to the police and put a sign in the yard daring people to steal his property...

just kill the fuckers and tell the police he feared for his life...

he's fucked and deserves a "way to go, dumbass" for giving fodder to the other side
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the problem is that he reported the vandalism to the police and put a sign in the yard daring people to steal his property...

just kill the fuckers and tell the police he feared for his life...

he's fucked and deserves a "way to go, dumbass" for giving fodder to the other side
I'd say he deserves a "way to go, dumbass" for totally fucking his life up. Because that is exactly what he has done..
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I guess good judgment is a little too hard to ask for? The teens were definitely stupid and deserved an ass kicking, but christ, did he have to shoot them?

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now thats the dumbest shit i've heard in a while. kill a kid over a freakin yard sign . young punk or not you dont kill a kid for being stupid. even though they were not killed it could have gone really bad.

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Only problem I see here is that he did not kill the two fucks!
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Just imagine. . . if people KNEW they could face someone like this when committing acts of asshattery, do you think we'd be better off?

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Just imagine. . . if people KNEW they could face someone like this when committing acts of asshattery, do you think we'd be better off?
100% so...

If people actually knew there would be consequences they would think twice about doing stupid shit.
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What a fucking idiot.............................
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Dumbasses got what was coming to them. Yes I understand it was only a piece of cardboard. They came looking for trouble on another mans property and found it. Fuck em'..........I'm glad they didn't die ..............at the same time I'm glad they found what they were looking for.


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(I don't really believe this. I'm posting it to show the ridiculousness of shooting someone who is unarmed, over a piece of cardboard and metal/wood. I feel I have to explain myself now.)
Yeah, he should've at least warned them they'd be shot at first. Oh, wait...


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Jeesh... it was a fucking sign!

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Jeesh... it was a fucking sign!
I don't think it is the sign that is the problem. It is the fact that it is HIS sign on HIS property that these fucks thought they would damage. If Obama loses who is to say that they would not do something more then just steal, or damage his sign.
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I don't think it is the sign that is the problem. It is the fact that it is HIS sign on HIS property that these fucks thought they would damage. If Obama loses who is to say that they would not do something more then just steal, or damage his sign.
Dude, it was still a fucking campaign sign. Holy shit.

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Dude, it was still a fucking campaign sign. Holy shit.
i could care less what your coming into my yard to destroy, the fact is you are there with the intent. In my yard, that will get you shot.


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Dude, it was still a fucking campaign sign. Holy shit.
Lets apply the same logic to if someone comes into your garge and starts beating the shit out of your car with a bat........


..............are we supposed to think Jeesh it's just a car !?!?!

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you best do some research on just who and when you can shoot. had he killed these kids his ass would go down for at least man1 .

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i could care less what your coming into my yard to destroy, the fact is you are there with the intent. In my yard, that will get you shot.
Your alias fits you perfectly.

Jeesh, another DFWStanger balla.

It wasn't even his fucking campaign sign. It was donated to him. I'm pretty sure the owner, the McCain campaign, will come out today and say... "Dude, fucking chill."

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you best do some research on just who and when you can shoot. had he killed these kids his ass would go down for at least man1 .
I'd salute him and consider it an honorable sacrifice to remove the filth from the streets.

Then i'd feel bad for his family and start taking donations.

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Lets apply the same logic to if someone comes into your garge and starts beating the shit out of your car with a bat........


..............are we supposed to think Jeesh it's just a car !?!?!

Just saying.
I'm not gonna kill someone over a fucking car either.

But even if I did, I know a $1.95 fucking sign ain't worth going to jail over.

Jesus Christ.

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Jeesh, another DFWStanger balla.

It wasn't even his fucking campaign sign. It was donated to him. I'm pretty sure the owner, the McCain campaign, will come out today and say... "Dude, fucking chill."
your pretty sure? that reasonable doubt.


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Dude, it was still a fucking campaign sign. Holy shit.
lol, and I can't begin to tell you how many undecided voters base their final decision on campaign signs!
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I'm not gonna kill someone over a fucking car either.

But even if I did, I know a $1.95 fucking sign ain't worth going to jail over.

Jesus Christ.
you just said the sign was donated. make up your mind


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your pretty sure? that reasonable doubt.
Absolutely sure. If the dumbass paid for the sign he deserves to get it defaced. They hand them out like candy.

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you just said the sign was donated. make up your mind
Reading comprehension is a mother fucker for you, ain't it?

Yes, the sign cost McCain about $1.95 depending on the posts he was supplying as well.

Mr. Rowles went to his local Republican Committee office and picked one up or possibly went to a rally and picked one up.

See how a fucking sign can cost $1.95 and still be donated, dumbass?

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I'm not gonna kill someone over a fucking car either.

But even if I did, I know a $1.95 fucking sign ain't worth going to jail over.

Jesus Christ.
It's the principal of the matter. You come looking for trouble be ready to find it. Most Americans aren't cowardly and will defend their stuff.


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lol, and I can't begin to tell you how many undecided voters base their final decision on campaign signs!
I absolutely know from personal experience.

It still is just a fucking campaign sign that isn't worth a life.

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I absolutely know from personal experience.

It still is just a fucking campaign sign that isn't worth a life.
So how much of your shit can I tear up before you become a man and try to defend it?


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Sorry, a sign that was donated isn't worth going to prison over.

Also, given the picture... it appears the little redneck dumbass placed the sign on the right of way and it wasn't even his fucking property (you know that little strip from the road about 8-10' up that the city or county own?)

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Reading comprehension is a mother fucker for you, ain't it?

Yes, the sign cost McCain about $1.95 depending on the posts he was supplying as well.

Mr. Rowles went to his local Republican Committee office and picked one up or possibly went to a rally and picked one up.

See how a fucking sign can cost $1.95 and still be donated, dumbass?
no actually its not. i carried 4.0 though most of school. if something has a cost it has ownership. if they destroyed the sign i would be willing to bet the post was destroyed as well.


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So how much of your shit can I tear up before you become a man and try to defend it?
Neal, I'll tell you what.

You can come over to my house and tear up all the shit you want. Hell, I'll even give you my address. I promise I won't bring the Glock out.

I will have the police there within 3 minutes and we'll have a hell of a time in court.

Dumbass.

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