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Thumbs down new push to rename ross avenue

Jesus... what the hell did chavez ever do for dallas?

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Ross Avenue has been part of downtown Dallas long before the high rises went up but that could change.

The new push: Cesar Chavez Boulevard.

The effort began when the name was passed over from Industrial Boulevard.

The 3.5 mile street runs through historic downtown into Old East Dallas.

From skyscrapers to mom and pop shops, the street offers a colorful look into the city's history and culture.

The Cesar Chavez Task Force is now pushing to rename Ross Avenue in honor of the farm worker advocate.

“Ross seems to be very open for this opportunity,” said Alberto Ruiz from the Cesar Chavez Task Force. “For the Latino community, in particular for the larger community, because who Cesar Chavez was and what he stood for.”

But what does Ross stand for? The answers are at the Dallas Public Library. Ross Avenue has been around for more than 130 years.

Carol Roark from the Dallas Public Library told News 8 that the avenue is named after William W. and Andrew J. Ross, early land owners who came to Dallas in 1866. One was a Civil War veteran, but both men were farmers and real estate developers.

Their contributions are hard to find.

“They were early Dallas settlers and a lot of streets in Dallas are named for people who are important early on and we have forgotten about them,” said Roark.

The Chavez task force says it hasn't forgotten.

It plans to honor the Ross brothers with their own landmark, if they get to rename the road.

The name change proposal will be presented at the next, Trinity River Corridor Project meeting, August 5th. For more information on the task force: Cesar Chavez Task Force
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post #2 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 12:20 AM
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Fuck this. Stop changing damn street names for stupid shit.
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They have a whole "task force"


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They have a whole "task force"
Technically, there is only 1 on the task force, and another 20 million undocumented task force agents.

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They should change the name of Ross to:

"The city of Dallas owes gpamp at least 3 new tires for tires destroyed on what used to be called Ross Ave."

That has got to be the worst major road in Dallas.
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Cesar Chavez Task Force
Give me a damn break.

Does somebody have a gravel driveway they can let these pinheads name after their hero? Obviously they aren't going to just go away.

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post #7 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 08:25 AM
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Fuck Cesar Chavez, he was a communist
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Fuck Cesar Chavez, he was a communist
Yes, but I understand he was a lettuce-picking motherfucker.

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post #9 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 10:15 AM
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Yet the state (actually Perry and his boyfriend Rick Williamson -may he rot in hell-) had a shit fit when they wanted to name a highway in south TX after Willie. "Not the image we're after..." Ain't that some hoity toity shit?

I figure in 10 yrs Dallas will be named Nuevo Dallas.

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post #10 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 10:27 AM
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why not just change MLK blvd to chavez blvd.

after all no one want to live or work on a street named after either of these men, it turns any place into the gehtto
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Technically, there is only 1 on the task force, and another 20 million undocumented task force agents.
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post #12 of 45 (permalink) Old 07-18-2008, 10:50 AM
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Just call it the Historic Prostitute Avenue.
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LOL.

A Cesar Chavez task force.
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They should use the CCTF to round up the illegals and send them back/execute them.

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M L K > C C
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M L K > C C
White man >*


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Ross isn't known for prostitutes. However, coincidentally, you can find a lot of illegal labor on Ross, near Haskell. One time, I made a u-turn because I didn't notice the 7-11 until I passed it. I used the old purple building (no idea what it's called), and my car was rushed by SEVERAL Mexicans, thinking I needed work done.
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Ross isn't known for prostitutes. However, coincidentally, you can find a lot of illegal labor on Ross, near Haskell. One time, I made a u-turn because I didn't notice the 7-11 until I passed it. I used the old purple building (no idea what it's called), and my car was rushed by SEVERAL Mexicans, thinking I needed work done.
so how many did you pick up? i bet you had them riding on the top of your focus, didn't you!
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stop changing the street names damn it...
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While Cesar Chavez has nothing to do with Dallas history, I am newly amazed by Dallas City Council's willingness to pander.

Give me a dollar.
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White man >*


Thus, Dallas should leave the street named as it is currently, in memory of a white man.
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stop changing the street names damn it...
I know, people in this town cant drive as it is....lets just make it more confusing....

"ok turn right onto Ross ave, no wait make that MLK, wait no, Ceasar Chavez, wait....ah screw it lets just run into someone so I can get out of where I needed to be"

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Why not go ahead and change the name of the city while all of you actually show up to vote on name changes...
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Ross isn't known for prostitutes. However, coincidentally, you can find a lot of illegal labor on Ross, near Haskell. One time, I made a u-turn because I didn't notice the 7-11 until I passed it. I used the old purple building (no idea what it's called), and my car was rushed by SEVERAL Mexicans, thinking I needed work done.
You haven't lived in Dallas very long.
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You haven't lived in Dallas very long.
31 years?
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Was CC nothing more than just another illegal alien complete with criminal record and typical anti-American rhetoric?

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He was born in the States (Yuma, AZ). Nonetheless, he was a steeennnnkkkkking communist.
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31 years?
Up through the early Eighties, Ross Avenue, east side of 75, was one of those places.

Heck just name it Obama Avenue. He'll be the next president and we will all be happy.
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They should change the name of Ross to:

"The city of Dallas owes gpamp at least 3 new tires for tires destroyed on what used to be called Ross Ave."

That has got to be the worst major road in Dallas.
Ross Ave = Denny's favorite street.
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Good god at all these advocacy groups trying to redecorate our landscape and erode OUR culture. Wanting to change a street name that's 130 years old?, silly.

I guess the phrase give an inch and they'll take a mile applies here and elsewhere. Somewhere someone capitulated to the whims of one of these advocacy groups and it opened Pandora's box. Now this country's news is replete with this type of community activism that basically wants to sublimate Anglo Saxon culture to a multi-ethnic hodgepodge.

Hey, we've ostensibly liberated Iraq from tyranny. I want to submit a proposal to rename the main drag in Baghdad to the George Bush Parkway.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at 10pm.so why is it a problem to call and bitch.it wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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Anybody remember that old car lot on Ross.....Goss on Ross the Tradin' Hoss.
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How about...

Off Road.

That way, if you were riding with someone, and told them to go down "Off Road", they wouldn't be surprised when their shocks go out.
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So who wants to start one of those online petitions against the name change?

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So who wants to start one of those online petitions against the name change?
Its obvious the City doesn't listen to the people. They took an online vote to rename Industrial, and everyone said "name it Cesar Chavez", and the City of Dallas said "um... ok... maybe not.

Ross is a pretty historic street. It'd be silly to change it. I understand Industrial. It's not so much a name as it is a label.
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Good god at all these advocacy groups trying to redecorate our landscape and erode OUR culture. Wanting to change a street name that's 130 years old?, silly.

I guess the phrase give an inch and they'll take a mile applies here and elsewhere. Somewhere someone capitulated to the whims of one of these advocacy groups and it opened Pandora's box. Now this country's news is replete with this type of community activism that basically wants to sublimate Anglo Saxon culture to a multi-ethnic hodgepodge.
I distinctly remember making this point over and over again at multiple points throughout the past few years, and was blown off as a "closed minded right wing nut." I'd really like to ask those same people what they think of this situation.

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I can't believe they haven't come up with John Wiley Price Avenue...yet.

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Do you have to be a Dallas resident for your signature to count?
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It's an internet petition. None of the signatures count.


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Good news.

It was narrowly voted down 7 - 6. Ross Ave. stays Ross Ave. That's done.

However, now they are going to go after renaming Industrial Blvd.

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Good news.

It was narrowly voted down 7 - 6. Ross Ave. stays Ross Ave. That's done.

However, now they are going to go after renaming Industrial Blvd.
The César Chávez Task Force agreed back in June to go along with naming Industrial Boulevard something other than “César Chávez,” provided the city name another street after their beloved communist hero. I would recommend naming the entrance road to the city dump after him.
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I would recommend naming the entrance road to the city dump after him.
Hear hear!

Let's rename Industrial "Karl Marx Boulevard", and Ross Avenue can be "Hillary Clinton Road".
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