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John McCain "I really didn't love America..."

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Here, I'll do the response for you, 90.

"LIBERAL MEDIA!! That guy's such a left wing nut!! Molestation!!"

Sure, he's a left winger. But the story still holds, because it's got John McCain saying it.

And I'd like to know... to everyone who posted against Michelle Obama, how is it different? And don't say its because he went to war. That would clearly make no sense.
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Are you serious ???? Those two comments are nothing alike . First off Obamas wife just recently became proud of America . How old is she again ? And how long does that mean she hasn't been proud of her country ?

McCain "fell in love with America" as a young adult that was sitting in a fucking POW camp from fighting in a war for his country . It wasn't until he realised he may never make it back that his feelings grew to the point of truely loving his country . That man has more back bone and true love for his country than Obama , Hillary , Bush and most of the congressmen / women serving today combined .

Give me a fucking break .........
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Molestation!!"
Doh...!!! Why do you keep this shit going?

For the rest of the post, I think it's more distractive parlor games. Of course John McCain loves his country. So does Michelle O. Americans love America. People say stupid shit sometimes. And in McCain's case here I do think he was saying "I didn't realize how much I loved my country..." That's not hard to hear. Where he was at for 5 yrs I would imagine he was loving his country very much.
Rather than being entertained by "media technical gotchas" we need to be concerned about the "new americans" that don't love our country and are lapping up what's left of our economy and comfort. And quite possibly planning something bad.
I don't care who's pastor sez what and I'm convinced that Obama, McCain, and both their wives love America. I want to know who has a plan to fix some shit.
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LOL the runoff just started and the liberals are already drowning and grasping for everything within reach to keep their heads above water. What I find ironic is the liberal's use every Right given to them to bash those who have fought and died to defend the Rights the liberal's hide behind. Then to top it off the liberal's are so dam stupid they want to turn their nose up at those Rights and give them all back to the government in the name of welfare checks and government feel good programs.

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LOL the runoff just started and the liberals are already drowning and grasping for everything within reach to keep their heads above water. What I find ironic is the liberal's use every Right given to them to bash those who have fought and died to defend the Rights the liberal's hide behind. Then to top it off the liberal's are so dam stupid they want to turn their nose up at those Rights and given them all back to the government in the name of welfare checks and government feel good programs.
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I really didn't "love" my country either intill i left her to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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there's a difference between being held in a POW camp as a young man and deciding to love America because your worthless husband is running for president
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I thought everyone would miss the absurdity.

It's pointing out that context is tactically overlooked. As black said, both of them love America. But when Michelle Obama said what she said, everyone "tactically overlooked" that fact, and started saying that she didn't. So, I'm using that tact with John McCain. Because it's always "different" when it comes back around to bite your own party in the ass, isn't it?

And black, I was responding in an edited version of what 90 would respond with. Hence the use of his vulgarity.
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there's a difference between being held in a POW camp as a young man and deciding to love America because your worthless husband is running for president

The difference is thrown out as soon as the race card is played.

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I thought everyone would miss the absurdity.

It's pointing out that context is tactically overlooked. As black said, both of them love America. But when Michelle Obama said what she said, everyone "tactically overlooked" that fact, and started saying that she didn't. So, I'm using that tact with John McCain. Because it's always "different" when it comes back around to bite your own party in the ass, isn't it?

And black, I was responding in an edited version of what 90 would respond with. Hence the use of his vulgarity.
I'm still lost how you can even see the two on the same level.

Thats like saying shoplifting is like murder, because they're both a crime.

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I thought everyone would miss the absurdity.

It's pointing out that context is tactically overlooked. As black said, both of them love America. But when Michelle Obama said what she said, everyone "tactically overlooked" that fact, and started saying that she didn't. So, I'm using that tact with John McCain. Because it's always "different" when it comes back around to bite your own party in the ass, isn't it?

And black, I was responding in an edited version of what 90 would respond with. Hence the use of his vulgarity.
So your saying McCain hated America so much he served 22 years in the Navy, 5 1/2 as a POW, then in the House, then the Senate, okay.

Who has Obama and his wife truly served besides themselves? Reverend Wright who is dead wrong? I mean maybe you equate the Angry liberal who attended the angry church that essentially blamed all that was wrong with society on another race to someone who loves America. Oh yeah she went to Princeton for undergrad and then Harvard Law, yeah she has been kept down by the man
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I thought everyone would miss the absurdity.

It's pointing out that context is tactically overlooked. As black said, both of them love America. But when Michelle Obama said what she said, everyone "tactically overlooked" that fact, and started saying that she didn't. So, I'm using that tact with John McCain. Because it's always "different" when it comes back around to bite your own party in the ass, isn't it?

And black, I was responding in an edited version of what 90 would respond with. Hence the use of his vulgarity.

Once again, this dumbass doesn't realize that Bill Clinton fucked an intern, and kennedy killed someone, so go fuck your democrats in massachusetts, and stay the hell out of politics.

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LMAO at the borderlined rascist crap....it seems that McCain loves his country to me...
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I really didn't "love" my country either intill i left her to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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gpampers.... your an idot

as I said before, do us all and yourself a favor and smash your keyboard over the top of your head. Seriously....
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gpampers.... your an idot

as I said before, do us all and yourself a favor and smash your keyboard over the top of your head. Seriously....
I don't see how I'm an idiot. I realize you're probably upset that your candidate, at one time, didn't love America all that much. But don't take it out on me.

And in actuality, I'm just pointing out the silly methods and arguments the right has used against Obama. And how, when held to the same standards, the right tends to make excuses.

If John McCain's clone was the democratic candidate, having every experience John McCain had, you'd probably find some reason why Democrat McCain's POW experience was lesser than Republican John McCain's. I mean, you guys chose a Vietnam DODGER (yes, he dodged Vietnam by going into the Guard) over an actual Vietnam Vet... and now it's all about who served?

Do you guys listen to yourselves?
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I mean, you guys chose a Vietnam DODGER (yes, he dodged Vietnam by going into the Guard) over an actual Vietnam Vet... and now it's all about who served?

Do you guys listen to yourselves?
Yea, that comparison always makes me laugh. The Republican strategy for this campaign is depending on the "experienced" candidate. Yet, George Bush easily beat out McCain for the 2000 nomination. A single term Texas governor beat a 20+ year Senator. But Obama's single term in the Senate makes him vastly under qualified compared to McCain. Politics are funny.

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I don't see how I'm an idiot. I realize you're probably upset that your candidate, at one time, didn't love America all that much. But don't take it out on me.

And in actuality, I'm just pointing out the silly methods and arguments the right has used against Obama. And how, when held to the same standards, the right tends to make excuses.

If John McCain's clone was the democratic candidate, having every experience John McCain had, you'd probably find some reason why Democrat McCain's POW experience was lesser than Republican John McCain's. I mean, you guys chose a Vietnam DODGER (yes, he dodged Vietnam by going into the Guard) over an actual Vietnam Vet... and now it's all about who served?

Do you guys listen to yourselves?
for one, he is not my candidate dumbass... I don't like John McCain, I'm not a fan. Your an idiot because you keep posting up half ass misunderstood clips from your local news media outlet trying to get a rise out of people. Obama is a tool, nobody likes him except for the koolaid drinking Americans and the marxist left. The only thing you are pointing out is that your a dumbass because you believe Obama to be your one and only savior to save you from the evil republicans... You avoid and dodge questions you can't answer like the plague. And the questions you do answer you point us to Obama's website or spin the question to something about McCain... LMAO... If you haven't figured it out, there are a lot of us that don't like McCain, but we especially don't like Obama. Yea, so go ahead and criticize my candidate... because I don't have one!
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Yea, that comparison always makes me laugh. The Republican strategy for this campaign is depending on the "experienced" candidate. Yet, George Bush easily beat out McCain for the 2000 nomination. A single term Texas governor beat a 20+ year Senator. But Obama's single term in the Senate makes him vastly under qualified compared to McCain. Politics are funny.
I know right! and Obama has been to Iraq is it once and never served in the military? now he is the foreign policy expert? LMAO...

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I know right! and Obama has been to Iraq is it once and never served in the military? now he is the foreign policy expert? LMAO...
We've had someone in office who probably couldn't point to Iraq on a map for 8 years, I'm fairly certain it can work.
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We've had someone in office who probably couldn't point to Iraq on a map for 8 years, I'm fairly certain it can work.
we have someone posting on DFWstangs named gpamp, that I would be surprised if he could do the same without Obama holding his hand

seriously, comments like this about your (our) President makes you look like a foolish hateful leftest retard...
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We've had someone in office who probably couldn't point to Iraq on a map for 8 years, I'm fairly certain it can work.
Do you know how many ignorant Americans can't find the US on a globe???
And yea, they'll be voiting for Obama, just so you know.

Take Iraq, for example. Despite nearly constant news coverage since the war there began in 2003, 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate the country on a map of the Middle East. Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel.


I guess those are the "youth" that Obama is in touch with, right?

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Do you know how many ignorant Americans can't find the US on a globe???
And yea, they'll be voiting for Obama, just so you know.

Take Iraq, for example. Despite nearly constant news coverage since the war there began in 2003, 63 percent of Americans aged 18 to 24 failed to correctly locate the country on a map of the Middle East. Seventy percent could not find Iran or Israel.


I guess those are the "youth" that Obama is in touch with, right?
point being... Pres. Bush can't even pronounce the names of most countries of the world. Possibly even England. And the guy had NO foreign experience when he got elected. So, why is that an issue between Obama & McCain?

PS- your post was so far off the point, I almost forgot what I was responding to.
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we have someone posting on DFWstangs named gpamp, that I would be surprised if he could do the same without Obama holding his hand

seriously, comments like this about your (our) President makes you look like a foolish hateful leftest retard...
Ok... so... you're saying I'm too stupid to find Iraq on the map, unless Obama holds my hand, but... you know what? I have no idea what you're saying.

I made my point with Godmag, so read that.
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Ok... so... you're saying I'm too stupid to find Iraq on the map, unless Obama holds my hand, but... you know what? I have no idea what you're saying.

I made my point with Godmag, so read that.
did you mis the word "seriously" in my post? The first part is a haha... Maybe you and president bush should compare education levels and GPA's... I have a feeling you would get owned. Wanna put money on it?
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point being... Pres. Bush can't even pronounce the names of most countries of the world. Possibly even England. And the guy had NO foreign experience when he got elected. So, why is that an issue between Obama & McCain?

PS- your post was so far off the point, I almost forgot what I was responding to.
What a fucking tool. . . .
You bring up someone being able to locate Iraq, i relpy to that, and then you're blaming me for going off topic?

I was pointing out that a large majority of "the youth" that your savior is "in touch with" can't even locate it.

So, your savior is swaying the vote of people guilty of the idiocy you're blaming the current president of.

It's the irony of you calling someone stupid, when the idiot you support is seeking the votes of those guilty of the very same stupidity.

Do you know anything, or do you just regurgitate obama's website and cnn???

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What a fucking tool. . . .
You bring up someone being able to locate Iraq, i relpy to that, and then you're blaming me for going off topic?

I was pointing out that a large majority of "the youth" that your savior is "in touch with" can't even locate it.

So, your savior is swaying the vote of people guilty of the idiocy you're blaming the current president of.

It's the irony of you calling someone stupid, when the idiot you support is seeking the votes of those guilty of the very same stupidity.

Do you know anything, or do you just regurgitate obama's website and cnn???
Your point is still retarded. We were talking about foreign relations, and you went to... a stupid place. I guess.

Stay there.
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Your point is still retarded. We were talking about foreign relations, and you went to... a stupid place. I guess.

Stay there.
Wow, you're a moron, I responded to something YOU, YOU, YOU brought up.
If the point is retarded, then it's the point you tried to make that is retarded.

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PS- your post was so far off the point, I almost forgot what I was responding to.

I'd be willing to bet that forgetting what you were doing is a perpetual state of mind for you...
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I really didn't "love" my country either intill i left her to go fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.


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Your point is still retarded. We were talking about foreign relations, and you went to... a stupid place. I guess.

Stay there.
That entire statement made me picture someone doing a moon-walk and falling off a stage, you were back tracking so much that you finally ran out of room to back-track lmao.

For another point, I would love for you to go have a "map" battle between you and bush and figure out where countries are. No amount of money can get you a bachelors at Yale and a masters at Harvard, that actually takes a little brain power, and since obama was also a graduate from harvard everytime you talk about bush's intelligence you are also talking about obamas. Well ok nevermind, that cant be cause Obama is the smartest man alive

Now onto Obamas foreign policy, here I will do what you so often do.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_C...reign_policies

Read the first few lines of the SK foreign policy. Now replace South Korea with Iraq, what do you see? Now, skip ahead 30yrs and figure out where we are with North Korea and Carters little stunt?

Please for the love of god explain to me what is so good about Obama? I am getting tired(not only you gpamp) but EVERY freaking person out there say well Obama is going to change this country, and all I can think about is ya, he is going to change it like Canada, or France where we are over-run by the govt. I have NO canidate in this election, if I even go to the polls I would vote for mccain simply because I cant stand the thought of becoming a socialist state and every little detail I read of Obama thats what he wants to do. Convince me otherwise with FACTS as you say you always have. I have already read his web-site but to me his website screams SCREW AMERICAN INDEPENDENCE. Why vote for someone like that.

Here is the real question gpamp, why are YOU voting for Obama?

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Here is the real question gpamp, why are YOU voting for Obama?
I think that question has been asked in some form or fashion, all he does is provide a link to Obama's website saying something like "read this, this is why I'm voting for him" (thats it pretty much in a nutshell) Nothing genuine or anything that takes brain usage.
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I think that question has been asked in some form or fashion, all he does is provide a link to Obama's website saying something like "read this, this is why I'm voting for him" (thats it pretty much in a nutshell) Nothing genuine or anything that takes brain usage.
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Why should I even answer that? If the same question were posed to you, it would be "because McCain's not Obama" or "because McCain's Republican." Regardless of what you typed.

And to me, that reason is much more ass-backwards and unintelligable than "It'd be nice to have a change after 8 years of old frat boy elitism."
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I actually use my brain before I vote. I analyze each candidates policies, promises, and records before I vote for them. Obama fails in all of the above listed categories for being a true American Patriot. But go ahead and vote for the most liberal candidate ever to run for the presidency. Ultimately his election would do nothing but be a greater failure than Jimmy Carter or Richard Nixon. You know what they say is true, history can repeat itself and there are enough idiots on this earth to make it happen.

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Why should I even answer that? If the same question were posed to you, it would be "because McCain's not Obama" or "because McCain's Republican." Regardless of what you typed.

And to me, that reason is much more ass-backwards and unintelligable than "It'd be nice to have a change after 8 years of old frat boy elitism."
Change into what?
What are you expecting the change to be?

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Why should I even answer that? If the same question were posed to you, it would be "because McCain's not Obama" or "because McCain's Republican." Regardless of what you typed.

And to me, that reason is much more ass-backwards and unintelligable than "It'd be nice to have a change after 8 years of old frat boy elitism."
Lmao, I already said I was probably not voting for either one, simply because I dont agree on most the eithers views, however as stated I would definatly not vote for obama for these reasons....not that mccains policys are any better but I like to keep MY money

War in Iraq- he thinks pulling out will be a positive effect, I will again refer to my old saying of when you kick someone and run do they just take it and not chase after you?

Econonomics- Tax anyone and everyone who makes money, so that everyone who doesnt work for money can still have a decent life without working for it, sounds real real good to me, if you are a homeless guy, heck a picture is worth a thousand words so here...



Foreign Policy-Bow down to every nation who hates us, give them anything they want so that we MIGHT have another ally who will just befriend us in the end and since they will have complete control over our economy our military will have no power.

Enviromental policy- HE WANTS TO UP ENVIROMENTAL AWARENESS even though thousands of scientists have stated mans "green house gasses" make up less than 2% of the green house gasses

Health care-He wants to nationalize health care....right there is a red flag, nationalizing health care would be the worst mistake ANY politician can ever make. It would run this country into the ground, between spending and disease.

Just a few reasons I wont vote for obama and my reasons why I think that, now what are the reasons you are going to vote for him? I said nothing about Mccain in those issues or anything about republicans. Mccain has his problems as well but your not voting for him I want to know your reasoning behind it.

Its your serve...although you could just say "I dont know why I am voting for him I just want to be in the IN crowd" like you ALWAYS come off like. For a true Obama supporter you dont state your cases very well in trying to get YOUR canidate elected.

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Anyone else see how barack changed the president seal? First word that comes to mind is sacrilegious, then what barack pops off today about the bible?? I am in NO way a religious man BUT c'mon. Barack is manipulating people, hes changing the way they view things into how he views things. He is pulling people in with "change" in his speeches as did hitler. Hitler never spouted off facism at first, but had the same views. I know this has all been said before and I believed it before however, after todays comments and the change of the presidential seal I am lost how others cant see history repeating itself. Screw all the Carter similarities, ill throw out for gpamp on how he can vote for someone who will soon take his family away....because again, history is repeating itself and only a small few can see it.

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Anyone else see how barack changed the president seal? First word that comes to mind is sacrilegious, then what barack pops off today about the bible?? I am in NO way a religious man BUT c'mon. Barack is manipulating people, hes changing the way they view things into how he views things. He is pulling people in with "change" in his speeches as did hitler. Hitler never spouted off facism at first, but had the same views. I know this has all been said before and I believed it before however, after todays comments and the change of the presidential seal I am lost how others cant see history repeating itself. Screw all the Carter similarities, ill throw out for gpamp on how he can vote for someone who will soon take his family away....because again, history is repeating itself and only a small few can see it.
Oh my God... HE'S THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!!! HE'S GOING TO TURN INTO A REPTILE AND KILL US ALL!!! HE'S THE ANTICHRIST!!!

At least you're not blowing things out of proportion.

And don't forget, George W's grandfather literally helped Hitler become the leader he became.
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Oh my God... HE'S THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!!! HE'S GOING TO TURN INTO A REPTILE AND KILL US ALL!!! HE'S THE ANTICHRIST!!!

At least you're not blowing things out of proportion.

And don't forget, George W's grandfather literally helped Hitler become the leader he became.
But you have no rebuttal for him?

What does W's grandfather have to do with anything he said?
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I've watched the video a couple of times and have thought about it a bit. After everything that I've read about McCain, I'm willing to say this was something meant in the context of he didn't fully appreciate it [America] until he was abroad. It's tantamount to you don't really think twice about your a/c unit until it breaks down in 100 degree heat. You value it, but it becomes part of the mundane unless you are deprived of it.

Read about this man's incredible military service record. This is not someone who is unpatriotic. He has more patriotism in his pinky than Obama does in his entire body.

I usually love to be critical of Republican politicians, but in this case I see a fragment of an interview taken out of context.

This is the same thing as that Hillary Clinton chain letter email about her quotes taken out of context showing her to engender broad socialism. That was all non-sense as well and was even debunked by snopes.

I don't agree with McCain on a few issues, but he is not unpatriotic. He is someone who I actually admire. I don't feel that way about very many contemporary politicians on either side of the fence.

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I've watched the video a couple of times and have thought about it a bit. After everything that I've read about McCain, I'm willing to say this was something meant in the context of he didn't fully appreciate it [America] until he was abroad. It's tantamount to you don't really think twice about your a/c unit until it breaks down in 100 degree heat. You value it, but it becomes part of the mundane unless you are deprived of it.

Read about this man's incredible military service record. This is not someone who is unpatriotic. He has more patriotism in his pinky than Obama does in his entire body.

I usually love to be critical of Republican politicians, but in this case I see a fragment of an interview taken out of context.

This is the same thing as that Hillary Clinton chain letter email about her quotes taken out of context showing her to engender broad socialism. That was all non-sense as well and was even debunked by snopes.

I don't agree with McCain on a few issues, but he is not unpatriotic. He is someone who I actually admire. I don't feel that way about very many contemporary politicians on either side of the fence.
From the words of a Democrat... gpamp, take lesson. Politics aside, truth is truth.
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From the words of a Democrat... gpamp, take lesson. Politics aside, truth is truth.
See, you guys miss the point of a lot of my posts.

I really don't believe John McCain is unpatriotic. I believe he said something that could be taken out of context, or used to say he was unpatriotic.

The point of the thread, was to point out that Michelle Obama probably isn't unpatriotic, either. She made a statement, in an attempt to say that she's excited about the fact that there is an African American on the ballot for the first time, ever, and the Right Wing used that to question her patriotism.

It's a silly and dishonest tactic, because no one really asks "Is she actually unpatriotic, or am I just saying she's not because she's up against my guy?" of themselves before they make the leap to "she's unpatriotic". Because if you really think about it, most Americans LOVE America. Sure, everyone has a different way of showing it. I don't believe that I have to have a t-shirt that says "We'll put a boot up yer' ass", but a guy in Mesquite might use that as a measurement of his patriotism. And I don't believe that someone in the military loves America more than me, just because they're in the military. Questioning someone's patriotism is a weak attack, because the heart is not seen.

I was just holding John McCain to the same bad scrutiny as a lot of people in here put upon whoever they don't like. Attempting to point out the ridiculousness of it.
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Oh my God... HE'S THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE!!! HE'S GOING TO TURN INTO A REPTILE AND KILL US ALL!!! HE'S THE ANTICHRIST!!!

At least you're not blowing things out of proportion.

And don't forget, George W's grandfather literally helped Hitler become the leader he became.
Not blowing things out of proportion at all, like denny said truth is the truth, and changing the presidential seal to YOUR liking is sacreligious and I hate to say it but what he said yesterday about religion is boarder-line anti-christ. Again, Hitler was an amazing speaker and VERY VERY good at persuading, he didnt push facism until he got into office, much like Obama is doing.

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I thought everyone would miss the absurdity.

It's pointing out that context is tactically overlooked. As black said, both of them love America. But when Michelle Obama said what she said, everyone "tactically overlooked" that fact, and started saying that she didn't. So, I'm using that tact with John McCain. Because it's always "different" when it comes back around to bite your own party in the ass, isn't it?

And black, I was responding in an edited version of what 90 would respond with. Hence the use of his vulgarity.
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