Originally Posted by gpamp
"group"? What "group" looks into that? A lot of it is opinion, you moron.
At a Pentecostal church, you'll see women wearing dresses that cover their knees, uncut hair, no makeup, and no jewelry. You and I might consider that VERY conservative. Where-as, they probably know of another Pentecostal church that wants the dresses down to their ankles, and prohibits bright colors in clothing (true story). And to them, THAT'S very conservative.
So, for you to throw out a "group" (Most likely a pretty conservative one) that thinks Obama is ultra liberal, is kinda like you talking out of your ass.
Of course it is some opinion, but also some facc. How would you rate (opinion) a Senator who voted (fact) for all progressive liberal social issues, like abortion, gay marriage, etc? How would you rate a Senator who voted against them? There is fact in the vote, then opinion in the analysis you idiot sick fuck. The vote is a fact and the analysis of the votes is the opinion. How do you base your decision to vote for Obama if it is not at least partially on his voting record as a Senator? How stupid would you be if you didn't consider it, right?
LOL, the "group" that put Obama at 10th and 21st were groups that were disputing the #1 ranking by National Review that is commonly used by the media. This is not difficult stuff right here sick fuck. I guess if people like you were actually informed and knowledgable about the issues, Obama and Hillary might not get many votes, huh sick fuck?
McCain's voting record is a big reason why most conservatives call him a RINO. It is his voting record being judged by the people who he has asked for votes from.
Have you ever answered the question about where you think Obama ranks from his votes cast or opinions he has stated on his site? You have been to his site and have seen his agenda, is it liberal, moderate, conservative, or something else? I say it is highly liberal, prove me wrong with your vast knowledge, experience, and facts. (See, I took a position on the question posed, so it can be done sick fuck!)
Do you still have the dreams about child molestation sick fuck, because I think you do.