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Obama must have "misspoken."

Anyone want to point out the "inaccuracies" in the following sentence from Obama?

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My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain. I don't oppose all wars.




Let's investigate...

Auschwitz?
Auschwitz was in Poland, where American troops never went. Auschwitz was liberated by the 322nd Rifle Division of the Red Army, January 27, 1945.



Maybe he talked to other troops who were there?
Oh, no that couldn't be it either. The US did not enter the camp until after the war.


And what of Treblinka?

Oh yeah, also in Poland, there was an uprising of the Jewish prisoners in 1943. They acquired weapons and set all of the buildings on fire. After the revolt was subdued the Nazis decided to kill the remaining prisoners and close the camp.

Oh and that screen shot is a quote from a 2002 speech. He repeated the Auschwitz portion again just one day ago.

So I guess this would be Obama's "landing under sniper fire" faux pas, eh?



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how exactly does he get away with this?

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how exactly does he get away with this?
Because the people that want to vote for him are fucking stupid.

I think he's a miserable, lying, anti-American sack of shit, but we're all entitled to our opinions.
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how exactly does he get away with this?

His press guy changed the story to his Great Uncle and the camp to Birkenau(i think) later this afternoon.
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Because the people that want to vote for him are fucking stupid.

I think he's a miserable, lying, anti-American sack of shit, but we're all entitled to our opinions.
Speaking of those people, what does gpampers have to say about this?

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His press guy changed the story to his Great Uncle and the camp to Birkenau(i think) later this afternoon.
I think they conveniently changed it to Ohrdruf (part of Buchenwald), liberated by Americans April 11, 1945.

I guess fact checking wasn't the cool thing to do 6 years ago though.



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I think they conveniently changed it to Ohrdruf (part of Buchenwald).

I guess fact checking wasn't the cool thing to do 6 years ago though.



Again...
At least when Bush "lied" (exagerrated hand motions implied here) to the American people, he made it believeable. You could also rely on the media to point out his every mistake. I'm afraid that just won't happen with Obama.

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I think they conveniently changed it to Ohrdruf (part of Buchenwald), liberated by Americans April 10, 1945.

I guess fact checking wasn't the cool thing to do 6 years ago though.



Again...

Yeah, I knew it was one that started with a "B".
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LOL. I think someone else put it best:

"Apparently 'Change We Can Believe In' doesn't just apply to the future... it also applies to the past."


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LOL. I think someone else put it best:

"Apparently 'Change We Can Believe In' doesn't just apply to the future... it also applies to the past."
LMAO! Fucking great!

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Think he considers this highly regarded "great uncle" to be just another "typical white person" like his grandmother?


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Shit, before I go to bed, here are a few more. Everyone love's the Bush fuckups. How about some from Dem front runner

Remember when...



Obama said the Kansas tornadoes killed 10,000 people?

12. Yeah, 12 people died.




Obama said that his parents married and he was born as a result of the march in Selma, Alabama... but he was really born 4 years before the march?
(“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”)

Come the fuck on. It is in NO WAY possible for that last one to be anything near a mistake. It's an outright fucking lie!




Obama told a crowd Iran doesn’t “pose a serious threat to us” and that the “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm

And the VERY NEXT DAY said, "Iran is a grave threat."





And to a lesser degree:

Obama said we are having trouble in Afghanistan because of lack of Arab translators that were sent to Iraq?
(“We only have a certain number of them, and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.”)

Afghanis do not speech the same language as Iraqis and the majority of translators in both places are locals.


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how exactly does he get away with this?
The press has been nut-hugging his ass since he threw his hat in the ring, and they refuse to give him ANY negative press whatsoever. Remember...they've chosen him over Hillary for goodness sakes!

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He'll be crucified in the general election.

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Obama said that his parents married and he was born as a result of the march in Selma, Alabama... but he was really born 4 years before the march?
(“There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Ala., because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.”)

Come the fuck on. It is in NO WAY possible for that last one to be anything near a mistake. It's an outright fucking lie!
You never know his mom or dad could have had a deloren with a older model flux capacitor. It could happen I think he should be put on mythbusters.

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Speaking of those people, what does gpampers have to say about this?
gpampers damn thats they best name for him yet LMFAO.

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Shit, before I go to bed, here are a few more. Everyone love's the Bush fuckups. How about some from Dem front runner

Remember when...



Obama told a crowd Iran doesn’t “pose a serious threat to us” and that the “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm

And the VERY NEXT DAY said, "Iran is a grave threat."


And to a lesser degree:

Obama said we are having trouble in Afghanistan because of lack of Arab translators that were sent to Iraq?
(“We only have a certain number of them, and if they are all in Iraq, then it’s harder for us to use them in Afghanistan.”)

Afghanis do not speech the same language as Iraqis and the majority of translators in both places are locals.

Iran will love Obama if he is elected.....he would be the next best thing to Jimmy Earl Carter for them.

Just off the top of my head, I would say Afghanis speak Pashtun, and are also probably conversant in Farsi. But I'm not a U.S. Senator, so what would I know
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So he mixed up a few cities....you guys forget, he's ready for a change. Don't clutter you minds with insignificant facts.....he's for a change.

Has he laid out his plan for this change yet?
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So he mixed up a few cities....you guys forget, he's ready for a change. Don't clutter you minds with insignificant facts.....he's for a change.

Has he laid out his plan for this change yet?
www.barackobama.com/issues

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More from the Selma speech.

The speech:
What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set forth in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites. So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.



*Barack Obama, Sr. attended the East-West Center, set up in 1960 by the U. S. Congress and President Eisenhower.

*Selma happened in 1965, when Barack Obama was four, and after the death of John F. Kennedy.

*The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing happened in 1963, when Barack Obama was two.

*Barack Obama, Jr. was born in August 1961.

So basically Barack Obama was born in 1961 because his father got to go to school in 1960, due to a program approved of by "President Kennedy", in response to Selma, which happened in 1965.

In other words, Barack Obama has lied about his personal history, has probably lied about his personal history numerous times, and he is a serial panderer.

I don't doubt that Obama faced tough times while going to the wealthiest schools in Indonesia and Hawaii, and while attending Columbia and Harvard Law School. After all, attending leftist ivy league schools is something that we all can relate to, right?

If Barack Obama would lie about the reason why his father came to America, and what caused his parents to meet, it must make you ask "How many Lies has he told so far?"

Barack Harvard Obama is a paper lion. Plain and simple. The idiot media of Joe Biden-esque figures annoited Barack Obama because they just fawned over his Harvard-bred oration.

Once the media provides some scrutiny towards his record, expect someone to find lies in Obama's books, and in his background.

Without his story, Barack Obama is just an inexperienced socialist liberal and a lightweight in general.

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Here's his plan for energy. Vague, but I think he can get it done

Well, I don't believe that climate change is just an issue that's convenient to bring up during a campaign. I believe it's one of the greatest moral challenges of our generation. That's why I've fought successfully in the Senate to increase our investment in renewable fuels. That's why I reached across the aisle to come up with a plan to raise our fuel standards… And I didn't just give a speech about it in front of some environmental audience in California. I went to Detroit, I stood in front of a group of automakers, and I told them that when I am president, there will be no more excuses — we will help them retool their factories, but they will have to make cars that use less oil.”

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Here's his plan for energy. Vague, but I think he can get it done

Well, I don't believe that climate change is just an issue that's convenient to bring up during a campaign. I believe it's one of the greatest moral challenges of our generation. That's why I've fought successfully in the Senate to increase our investment in renewable fuels. That's why I reached across the aisle to come up with a plan to raise our fuel standards… And I didn't just give a speech about it in front of some environmental audience in California. I went to Detroit, I stood in front of a group of automakers, and I told them that when I am president, there will be no more excuses — we will help them retool their factories, but they will have to make cars that use less oil.”

— Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, October 14, 2007
So in other words "Ill tell you this needs to be done, but you have to figure out how to do it", his little thoughts about the climate change helped get us where we are now.

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The Boston Globe: “Republicans tried yesterday to jump on it as a question of Barack Obama's judgment. His campaign chalked it up to an innocent mistake.”

Fucking ridiculous.

"Obama campaign aides were indignant that Republicans had pounced on what they called an innocent mistake in relating his family history. Tommy Vietor, an Obama spokesman, decried "using the Holocaust and concentration camps as a political football.’”

"Speaking in New Mexico on Memorial Day, Obama said a great-uncle had helped to liberate the Auschwitz death camp at the end of World War II. ‘I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps,’ Obama said… He continued: ‘And the story in my family is that when he came home, he just went into the attic, and he didn't leave the house for six months. All right? Now, obviously something had affected him deeply, but at the time, there just weren't the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain.’”

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The media is just letting him waltz over this.
Nothing new there. After all, he is Barak The Magic Negro! (do a search - it's based on an editorial - written by a black man - and later turned into a Paul Shanklin song).

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Because the people that want to vote for him are fucking stupid.
And sadly those people are growing in numbers . Kids/young adults (14-26 years old) in general now days have no fucking clue about anything . All they care about is hooking up with bitches and getting crunk . While that shit might be fun , they are slowly nailing their own coffins shut .

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One thing that is amazing to me, alot of musicians support this guy. Stephan Jenkins, lead singer for Third Eye Blind, is a huge supporter. He's gone to colleges, cafes, etc.. to speak about how great he is.

I hear him talk and my BS meter goes off. I just don't buy into his "plans."
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One thing that is amazing to me, alot of musicians support this guy. Stephan Jenkins, lead singer for Third Eye Blind, is a huge supporter. He's gone to colleges, cafes, etc.. to speak about how great he is.

I hear him talk and my BS meter goes off. I just don't buy into his "plans."
Most musicians are liberal I dont know why, but they are. Obama is the most liberal senator we have.

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Most musicians are liberal I dont know why, but they are. Obama is the most liberal senator we have.


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Most musicians are liberal I dont know why, but they are. Obama is the most liberal senator we have.
Wait... Kerry was the most liberal when he was running. Does it shift to fit the Republican talking points?
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Obama would be a natural to take up the liberal mantra epitomized and championed by Ted Kennedy
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Wait... Kerry was the most liberal when he was running. Does it shift to fit the Republican talking points?
Yeah and Obama was not a senator when kerry was running. So whats your point.

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Wait... Kerry was the most liberal when he was running. Does it shift to fit the Republican talking points?
Kerry is not running this time, although if he were it would be very close toss up between him and obama as to who could outliberal who.
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oh give Obama a break, he wants to be "Commander of chief" LMAO!
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Better watch it, there is no stigma or truth to young guys in bands being dope smokers. gpampers will call you a child moletser for that.

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Wait... Kerry was the most liberal when he was running. Does it shift to fit the Republican talking points?
Come on sick fuck, it has been pointed out that Obama wasn't even a Senator when Kerry was running for president. BTW, who is the most liberal senator in Congress right now, including Kerry?

Do you still have the dreams about child molestation sick fuck?

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Come on sick fuck, it has been pointed out that Obama wasn't even a Senator when Kerry was running for president. BTW, who is the most liberal senator in Congress right now, including Kerry?

Do you still have the dreams about child molestation sick fuck?
Haven't really seen the "liberal meter", yet. I mean, that's like asking "which republican police officer dreams of kids at the swimming pool all day, the most?" There's not really a barometer for ideas. Sometimes actions don't even sinc up with them, when there's opposition.

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And sadly those people are growing in numbers . Kids/young adults (14-26 years old) in general now days have no fucking clue about anything . All they care about is hooking up with bitches and getting crunk . While that shit might be fun , they are slowly nailing their own coffins shut .

Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it . Most of the fucking idiots on the street never learned or cared about history to begin with .
As someone who is a part of that generation and deals with said fucktards on a daily basis, you couldn't be more right.

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Wait... Kerry was the most liberal when he was running. Does it shift to fit the Republican talking points?
There's actually statistical data to support Obama as the most liberal senator of 2007.

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Haven't really seen the "liberal meter", yet. I mean, that's like asking "which republican police officer dreams of kids at the swimming pool all day, the most?" There's not really a barometer for ideas. Sometimes actions don't even sinc up with them, when there's opposition.

You're at the top, aren't you?
So how would you describe Obama's voting record since he became a Senator?

I have checked around and he has been rated 21st by one group, 10th by another, and first by a 3rd. Hillary was rated less liberal than him in every one I saw, and that means he is by far the most liberal choice out there right now. Isn't that why you decided to vote for him sick fuck?

Do you still dream all day about child molestation sick fuck?

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So how would you describe Obama's voting record since he became a Senator?

I have checked around and he has been rated 21st by one group, 10th by another, and first by a 3rd. Hillary was rated less liberal than him in every one I saw, and that means he is by far the most liberal choice out there right now. Isn't that why you decided to vote for him sick fuck?

Do I still dream all day about child molestation? Yes, I do.
"group"? What "group" looks into that? A lot of it is opinion, you moron.

At a Pentecostal church, you'll see women wearing dresses that cover their knees, uncut hair, no makeup, and no jewelry. You and I might consider that VERY conservative. Where-as, they probably know of another Pentecostal church that wants the dresses down to their ankles, and prohibits bright colors in clothing (true story). And to them, THAT'S very conservative.

So, for you to throw out a "group" (Most likely a pretty conservative one) that thinks Obama is ultra liberal, is kinda like you talking out of your ass.
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At least when Bush "lied" (exagerrated hand motions implied here) to the American people, he made it believeable. You could also rely on the media to point out his every mistake. I'm afraid that just won't happen with Obama.
I think they will pick apart who ever wins Bush is president right now so it's him for now.

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"group"? What "group" looks into that? A lot of it is opinion, you moron.

At a Pentecostal church, you'll see women wearing dresses that cover their knees, uncut hair, no makeup, and no jewelry. You and I might consider that VERY conservative. Where-as, they probably know of another Pentecostal church that wants the dresses down to their ankles, and prohibits bright colors in clothing (true story). And to them, THAT'S very conservative.

So, for you to throw out a "group" (Most likely a pretty conservative one) that thinks Obama is ultra liberal, is kinda like you talking out of your ass.
Of course it is some opinion, but also some facc. How would you rate (opinion) a Senator who voted (fact) for all progressive liberal social issues, like abortion, gay marriage, etc? How would you rate a Senator who voted against them? There is fact in the vote, then opinion in the analysis you idiot sick fuck. The vote is a fact and the analysis of the votes is the opinion. How do you base your decision to vote for Obama if it is not at least partially on his voting record as a Senator? How stupid would you be if you didn't consider it, right?

LOL, the "group" that put Obama at 10th and 21st were groups that were disputing the #1 ranking by National Review that is commonly used by the media. This is not difficult stuff right here sick fuck. I guess if people like you were actually informed and knowledgable about the issues, Obama and Hillary might not get many votes, huh sick fuck?

McCain's voting record is a big reason why most conservatives call him a RINO. It is his voting record being judged by the people who he has asked for votes from.

Have you ever answered the question about where you think Obama ranks from his votes cast or opinions he has stated on his site? You have been to his site and have seen his agenda, is it liberal, moderate, conservative, or something else? I say it is highly liberal, prove me wrong with your vast knowledge, experience, and facts. (See, I took a position on the question posed, so it can be done sick fuck!)

Do you still have the dreams about child molestation sick fuck, because I think you do.

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McCain's voting record is a big reason why most conservatives call him a RINO. It is his voting record being judged by the people who he has asked for votes from.
By "most conservatives" you mean, this guy:

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BTW, John McCain is a Dmocratic candidate in my mind. He is a RINO by all definitions. He will not get the Rpublican nomination unless he goes to the right IMO.
https://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/show...no#post3660996

right?

(PS: He got the nom. before he started bowing to the conservatives. Meaning, you were wrong. )
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By "most conservatives" you mean, this guy:


https://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/show...no#post3660996

right?

(PS: He got the nom. before he started bowing to the conservatives. Meaning, you were wrong. )
Oh man, you say I was wrong. That means a lot sick fuck. I guess you take a "victory" where you can get them when you are desperate, huh sick fuck?

Except for the War on Terror issue he was one of the most liberal Republicans at the time it was written by me(rather poorly I must admit). I still say he is not conservative enough, but he is by far the best candidate IMO if only because of his excellent stance on the War on Terror. Again I will say: I hope McCain follows through with his promises if elected, and I really fear that Obama will follow through on his if he gets elected. I have clarified this many times and you still don't get it. Why are you so happy to twist my words and be so interested in me, I am an adult so I know you have no sexual fantasies about me.

Where do rate Obama on your own personal liberal or conservative scale? You sure do have opinions about Fox, Romney, McCain, and others, why not your won choice for President sick fuck? You sure can't say you don't have a "meter" for liberals when you have a "meter" for conservtives unless you are a hypocrite, right sick fuck? This hypocrisy and lying really does get you in a quandry when you can't keep up with them, huh sick fuck? It pays to have ethics, character, and honor to keep you out of these types of messes, it sure works for me.

Do you have the dreams about child molestation, beastiality and homosexuality sick fuck?

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