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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-02-2008, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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Interesting read about president's security


For those who don't know... Capt. Denny Keast flies for UAL and flew
many SAM's (Special Air Mission's) for the White House.

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I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB,
DE.. Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.

Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him,
if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't
intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he
(Johnson) was off somewhere. Nixon never required that and the four (4)
stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me
and my crew.

We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service
presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson
were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents'
plane Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret 'dates,'
and LBJ was a typical Texas 'good ole boy' womanizer.

Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't
match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president
Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly
them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that
also go, one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus
usually a press aircraft.

Both Bushes made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force
and security people could have a day with their families.

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail.
She forbade her daughter, Chelsea , from exchanging pleasantries with
them. Sometimes Chelsea , miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean
spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless,
but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice,
kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that
Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her. Hillary Clinton was
continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her
life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals
should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail.

Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole. Former
President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the
Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks H Hillary would use
against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even
behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly
that everyone could hear what she was saying. Many felt sorry for
President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just
divorcing his 'attack dog' wife. It was crystal clear that the Clintons
neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long before the
Monica Lewinsky scandal.

Theirs was genuinely a 'marriage of convenience.' Chelsea was much
closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal,
which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fa ct have charisma, and
occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail.
Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false,
and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance
his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did
not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were friendlier
toward each other than either of them were towards former President
Clinton . They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were
very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant.

She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her
'pegged' and no longer liked her or associated with her except for
events that were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill
Clinton and thought he was too 'centrist.' He despised all Republicans.

His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the
Presidency. This hatred was something that he and Hillary had in common.
They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail.
Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined,
neither of them even liked him. Bill Clinton did have some good
qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their
security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security
detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold
them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they
had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally
observed and learned with certainty on one occasion. Al got angry at his
offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, 'Do you want to
grow up and be like them?' Word of this insult by the former
Vice-President quickly spread and he became as disliked by the Secret
Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected
President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of
their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to
celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's
detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest
and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where
Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her
security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers.
She doesn't just shake their hand and say, 'Thank you.' Very often, she
will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her
appreciation. There is nothing false about her.

This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a
'breath of fresh air.' They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary
Clinton is like comparing 'Mother Teresa' with the 'Wicked Witch of the

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a
man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he
always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the
Crawford , Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has
a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He
sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them. He knows each of
them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show
of affection. He always asks about their families, the names of which he
always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely
appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect
anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would
feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn
that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since
he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect,
kindness, and compassion.
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I've heard the same from a speaker that came to one of my classes last semester. I don't remember/know how all that shit works but he was in the Air Force and ended up on some sort of presidential security team. He had to be careful with his words obviously, but he said that Hillary and Laura Bush were completely different and that Laura was as nice as could be.
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Pretty much how I would have guessed. The folks that respect our service people, also respect Air Force One crewmen and Secret Service detail.

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good read!!!!

not surprising at all about the Clinton's

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Good read thanks for posting.

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Originally Posted by scootro
good read!!!!

not surprising at all about the Clinton's
X2. You could see the writing on the wall without even meeting them.

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You have a family of military aviators, im sure they appreciate their flight crews. Its disappointing the clintons didnt, but the history of avoiding military service possibly reflects their views of military personell as dregs of society.
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This is pretty much how my father-in-law related how the Secret Service felt about the listed people. He was an FBI agent and knew quite a few other federal LE people.

I have a feeling that Obama and McCain would be closer to how the Bush's are, but I am not so sure about Michelle Obama.


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Good read. Thanks
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Fuck Hillary Clinton, and you to, if you vote for her.
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I voted for hillary.
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So Gore is a leftist elite cocksucker and hillary is a cunt? No shit?!

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Nice read.
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Sounds like right-wing bullshit posted by a gun crazy marine...

lmao... good stuff...
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Somewhat interesting, but it's all mostly hearsay. I can picture H. Clinton being a Uber bitch, but most of that discourse is likely to be exaggerations of the truth.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at why is it a problem to call and wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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