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This isnt a hate crime?

Rabbi Alleges Attack: Men Chanted 'Allahu Akhbar'

Victim: Stolen Yarmulke Prompts Altercation That Leads To Brutal Beating Inside NYC Subway Station

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BROOKLYN (CBS) ― A Brooklyn rabbi is speaking out after a scary encounter with a man accused of snatching his yarmulke off his head.

Rabbi Uria Ohana's crash course on street justice -- and the justice -- system continues.

"I got a call from the district attorney," Ohana said. "I'm going to testify in front of the grand jury."

The case is against 18-year old Ali Hussein, accused of snatching Ohana's yarmulke last week inside a Park Slope subway station. It was an offense Ohana says he couldn't let pass.

"I decided to chase him to get my yarmulke back," Ohana said.

Prosecutors haven't classified the incident as a bias crime yet, but a Brooklyn resident who spoke to CBS 2 HD says he's not encouraged by what happened.

"It's unfortunate that these two cultures that don't get along a world away … even here in Brooklyn … are not getting along," Brooklyn resident Miguel Yazinsky said.

Rabbi Ohana says as he ran back down the station's stairs two of Hussein's friends got up from this bench and chased him out of the station.

"They were screaming 'Allahu Akhbar (God is great) and punching my face," Ohana said.

But Ohana says things came to a head when Hussein was hit by a car as he ran out onto Fourth Avenue. EMS officials confirm responding to a call at that time and location for a pedestrian struck by a vehicle.

At the subway station, CBS 2 HD found little sympathy for Hussein.

"So you're trying to say the guy who grabbed it got hit by a car? That's justice, isn't it?" Brooklyn resident Kevin Ryan said.

Not for Rabbi Ohana, who says despite the fact Hussein was injured, he still wants him prosecuted to fullest extent of the law.

Hussein is charged with grand larceny, petty larceny and criminal possession of stolen property. Prosecutors expect more charges will be filed. (© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

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All I know is if Hussein had been "Jimbo Billy Bob Hook Em" and was shouting "Let's see the media, banks and Hollywood get your hat back!" he would not have been charged with grand larceny for stealing a cap.

He may have been charged with 1st degree dumbassery for stealing it and then running out in front of a car.

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Yes, because I'm an ardent Jew hater. Better tell my wife and kids that...that'll make for interesting discussion at tonight's dinner table.




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All I know is if Hussein had been "Jimbo Billy Bob Hook Em" and was shouting "Let's see the media, banks and Hollywood get your hat back!" he would not have been charged with grand larceny for stealing a cap.

He may have been charged with 1st degree dumbassery for stealing it and then running out in front of a car.

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Just leave the guys arm ukulele alone for crying out loud. What if the table was turned and the Jew took the red and white, picnick table-hand kerchief of the arabs head and blew his nose in it. Say what?
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Just leave the guys arm ukulele alone for crying out loud. What if the table was turned and the Jew took the red and white, picnick table-hand kerchief of the arabs head and blew his nose in it. Say what?
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He would still be a 1st degree dumbass for getting hit by a car.

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Yes, because I'm an ardent Jew hater. Better tell my wife and kids that...that'll make for interesting discussion at tonight's dinner table.
You ran with that one! Pretty fast as well. Almost as if the shoe fit... perfectly.

Just messing with you man! But you know it wouldn't bother you one bit if the all the Arabs and Jews destroyed themselves tomorrow. You can tell Dfwstangs. Nobody would hold it against you. One side killed your lord and king of kings and the other side uses their false religion to hate you. It's ok. We understand.

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Being that I have family all over Israel, I'd prob frown on that. The whole being married to a Jew, and thus having Jewish children...I'd be more than slightly put out if all the Jews were wiped out. It'd put a real bumemr on my kids birthright tour, too. But don't let that stop you from your own racist anti-Semetic fantasies.

And not to split hairs, but the Romans actually killed Christ. The Jews preferred method of execution was stoning; the Romans, crucifixion. Not saying there were not Jews that had a hand in it, but your blanket statement couldnt be more wrong.

Besides, why are you wasting your tiem here, when you should be out addressing your fears.

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You ran with that one! Pretty fast as well. Almost as if the shoe fit... perfectly.

Just messing with you man! But you know it wouldn't bother you one bit if the all the Arabs and Jews destroyed themselves tomorrow. You can tell Dfwstangs. Nobody would hold it against you. One side killed your lord and king of kings and the other side uses their false religion to hate you. It's ok. We understand.

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Being that I have family all over Israel, I'd prob frown on that. The whole being married to a Jew, and thus having Jewish children...I'd be more than slightly put out if all the Jews were wiped out. It'd put a real bumemr on my kids birthright tour, too. But don't let that stop you from your own racist anti-Semetic fantasies.

And not to split hairs, but the Romans actually killed Christ. The Jews preferred method of execution was stoning; the Romans, crucifixion. Not saying there were not Jews that had a hand in it, but your blanket statement couldnt be more wrong.

Besides, why are you wasting your tiem here, when you should be out addressing your fears.

or "training" as you may spin it....
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I for one am thnkful to now know that they keep a bag of fake jew gold to outsmart us goyim. I won't fall for that one again
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I for one am thnkful to now know that they keep a bag of fake jew gold to outsmart us goyim. I won't fall for that one again
LOL! Hook Em keeps his in his hollowed out bible. I heard it jingle around in there when he thumped it less than 15 seconds ago.

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LOL! Hook Em keeps his in his hollowed out bible. I heard it jingle around in there when he thumped it less than 15 seconds ago.
Truly sad that you take joy, and find humour, in this rabbi being beaten by a group of men. Really speaks volumes about your character.

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Truly sad that you take joy, and find humour, in this rabbi being beaten by a group of men. Really speaks volumes about your character.
I'm pretty sure he's deeply upset that no one posted the vid on youtube.

WTF should anyone care if he was anything other than a victim? All your hate crime emphasis puts you squarely in the Obama camp. What am I missing? Did you go "soft" on us?
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Just a little parity is all I'm seeking. I think hate crime laws are an absolute sham, as crime by its definition is hateful. (Is there such thing as a crime out of warm fuzzies?)
However, if it's on the books, enforce it equally.

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I'm pretty sure he's deeply upset that no one posted the vid on youtube.

WTF should anyone care if he was anything other than a victim? All your hate crime emphasis puts you squarely in the Obama camp. What am I missing? Did you go "soft" on us?

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So you do or don't like Jews? Just spit it out man. We can take it.
LOL. What a retort!

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Truly sad that you take joy, and find humour, in this rabbi being beaten by a group of men. Really speaks volumes about your character.
There are two really funny things about the whole Rabbi thing that I find "joyful and humorous" that have nothing to do with your O'reillyan spin doctoring:

1. One of the jerks who was fucking with him got run the fuck over trying to get away with the guys religious headgear.

2. You.

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Hate crime is a stupid term. If I was beat bloody by a bunch of black guys it wouldn't be a hate crime but the other way around it would be. To me a crime is a crime no matter what the reason. That is what makes it a crime. And I think they should be prossocuted to the fullest extent, same as any of us would be.
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dude you are completely right!

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There are two really funny things about the whole Rabbi thing that I find "joyful and humorous" that have nothing to do with your O'reillyan spin doctoring:

1. One of the jerks who was fucking with him got run the fuck over trying to get away with the guys religious headgear.

2. You.

If you really want to go into character, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Since you are obviously in the position to start, feel free to do so at any time.

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If the guy wants yarmulke protection under the law, he should go back to Israel, where everybody wears them. This is America, assimilate, or get the fuck out--remember?

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Hate crime is a stupid term. If I was beat bloody by a bunch of black guys it wouldn't be a hate crime but the other way around it would be. To me a crime is a crime no matter what the reason. That is what makes it a crime. And I think they should be prossocuted to the fullest extent, same as any of us would be.
If I'm mad enough to beat someone to death, it's OBVIOUSLY a hate crime...no matter their color.

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If the guy wants yarmulke protection under the law, he should go back to Israel, where everybody wears them. This is America, assimilate, or get the fuck out--remember?

This is great.
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dude you are completely right!
invertebrate.

This new tactic you've adopted of laying down and blindly agreeing with people is par for the course for the rest of your reasoning processes. It's like you re-realized that you don't have to argue with people that disagree with you if you hold to your simple way of life. Good job though, you fulfill every single one of my expectations.

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If I'm mad enough to beat someone to death, it's OBVIOUSLY a hate crime...no matter their color.
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You are completely right Z!
And you are completely spineless 90!

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Exactly.
Did someone get beat up?

I'm surprised it wasn't referred to as a terrorist act, myself. Given the background of the OP, this guy will say anything and agree with anything if he thinks he's pleasing his imaginary friend...

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If the guy wants yarmulke protection under the law, he should go back to Israel, where everybody wears them. This is America, assimilate, or get the fuck out--remember?

This is great.
So the Palestinians squatting in Isreal also wear yarmulkes, since everybody there wears them, correct? You stupid piece of shit.

You ought to be all in favor of hate crime protections FudgePecker. After all, we categorize gay bashing as a hate crime in America, and you obviously benefit firsthand from that protection.
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So the Palestinians squatting in Isreal also wear yarmulkes, since everybody there wears them, correct? You stupid piece of shit.

You ought to be all in favor of hate crime protections FudgePecker. After all, we categorize gay bashing as a hate crime in America, and you obviously benefit firsthand from that protection.
That's a horrible analogy, I meant he needs to return to a land whose laws protect his uninterrupted
wearing of his jewhat.
Yea, I'm obviously gay, since you've seen me and can protest to the fact that I'm a homosexual. You surely can't be serious...

I don't see how you get off calling anyone gay dude. That is the oldest trick in the book, little children have acquired superior tactics in debate than you have. To attack someones sexuality based on a political argument is downright infantile.

I laugh at you...... again.


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Your answering to FudgePecker is evidence enough, fag.

The analogy is perfect, and your political "thoughts" LOL are hilarious.
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lmao! are you kidding? this is about a man who was beat and had his property (the yarmulke) stolen. is that not a crime in and of itself?

the attackers' backgrounds (muslim) and what they are chanting (god is good) are not alone hate crime material, but combine the two and throw in the fact that they were beating a jewish man, and you have a point.

and like hookem said, I think the term 'hate crime' is hilarious, but there shouldn't be a double standard if it's going to exist.

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This new tactic you've adopted of laying down and blindly agreeing with people is par for the course for the rest of your reasoning processes. It's like you re-realized that you don't have to argue with people that disagree with you if you hold to your simple way of life. Good job though, you fulfill every single one of my expectations.

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And you are completely spineless 90!
Another post that's right Z!

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That's a horrible analogy, I meant he needs to return to a land whose laws protect his uninterrupted
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Yea, I'm obviously gay, since you've seen me and can protest to the fact that I'm a homosexual. You surely can't be serious...

I don't see how you get off calling anyone gay dude. That is the oldest trick in the book, little children have acquired superior tactics in debate than you have. To attack someones sexuality based on a political argument is downright infantile.

I laugh at you...... again.


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That's a horrible analogy, I meant he needs to return to a land whose laws protect his uninterrupted
wearing of his jewhat.
Yea, I'm obviously gay, since you've seen me and can protest to the fact that I'm a homosexual. You surely can't be serious...

I don't see how you get off calling anyone gay dude. That is the oldest trick in the book, little children have acquired superior tactics in debate than you have. To attack someones sexuality based on a political argument is downright infantile.

I laugh at you...... again.


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If the guy wants yarmulke protection under the law, he should go back to Israel, where everybody wears them. This is America, assimilate, or get the fuck out--remember?

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invertebrate.

This new tactic you've adopted of laying down and blindly agreeing with people is par for the course for the rest of your reasoning processes. It's like you re-realized that you don't have to argue with people that disagree with you if you hold to your simple way of life. Good job though, you fulfill every single one of my expectations.

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None of it is sarcasm. These guys can't hang, so they deliberately concede. Simple.

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That's 'cause FudgePecker is a true mental giant among mere commoners. It's plain for all to see, just like it's plain for all to see that he is an abominable fag.
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You got us figured out
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The direction your life has turned just seems right somehow...
LMAO! How fucking old are you? You're only retort is to call people invertebrates? You sound like a 12 year old Dinosaur nerd who just discovered that the word invertebrate can be used in a derogatory manner.

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LMAO! How fucking old are you? You're only retort is to call people invertebrates? You sound like a 12 year old Dinosaur nerd who just discovered that the word invertebrate can be used in a derogatory manner.
Dude. How old are you?

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I wonder if he posted the Rabbi's phone number on a message board?

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Being that I have family all over Israel, I'd prob frown on that. The whole being married to a Jew, and thus having Jewish children
And my best friend is...

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LMAO! How fucking old are you? You're only retort is to call people invertebrates? You sound like a 12 year old Dinosaur nerd who just discovered that the word invertebrate can be used in a derogatory manner.
Ah, you must be talking about "Zboy", I don't kick puppies anymore since I put the Douche bag on my ignore list! You should all try it and when he grows tired of arguing with himself maybe he will go away.

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There was a time when you were pretty whitty. You could zing with the best of them. Sadly, it's rather obvious that the game has passed you by. You really just tried to compare someone saying "my best friend is a " and being part of a Jewish family, having Jewish children, ADOPTING a Jewish child, attending a Messianic Temple, etc? Zara thinks I'm a Zionist, and you accuse me of being anti-Semetic.

Not sure if it's old age, years of alcohol abuse, or the first signs of dementia setting in, but you have lost your edge.

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None of it is sarcasm. These guys can't hang, so they deliberately concede. Simple.

You're the man now, dawg!
Encore, encore!

SPOT the HECK on AGAIN!!!!!!!

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There was a time when you were pretty whitty. You could zing with the best of them. Sadly, it's rather obvious that the game has passed you by. You really just tried to compare someone saying "my best friend is a " and being part of a Jewish family, having Jewish children, ADOPTING a Jewish child, attending a Messianic Temple, etc? Zara thinks I'm a Zionist, and you accuse me of being anti-Semetic.

Not sure if it's old age, years of alcohol abuse, or the first signs of dementia setting in, but you have lost your edge.

I weep.
Or possibly, I see no change in your being... righteous christian or abusing druggie and alcoholic.

Please show me one fucking line where I accused you of being anti-Semetic dumbass. You back on the sauce already?

Don't try to project your shortcomings on others.

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