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I am truly sick of obama..

I will cut taxes, I will pull out troops, I will change change change change America. This is a new time. Yet, I still have one question. How? I do believe he is a very likeable person but beyond his change change change he's got nothing. He might have good values and be able to deliver a speech, and have that JFK type of appeal, but the mass conforming of society around him is making me sick. I think we might be in trouble.

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I will cut taxes, I will pull out troops, I will change change change change America. This is a new time. Yet, I still have one question. How? I do believe he is a very likeable person but beyond his change change change he's got nothing. He might have good values and be able to deliver a speech, and have that JFK type of appeal, but the mass conforming of society around him is making me sick. I think we might be in trouble.

I feel the same way about him. He doesn't seem to have a plan, just dreams and hopes.
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Better than Clinton for sure, and we know that a democrate will win this time.
That's very true I'd pretty much take anyone in office over Clinton.

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I feel the same way about him. He doesn't seem to have a plan, just dreams and hopes.

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I think that BO is selling something that he cannot possibly deliver, and the people voting for him have not figured that out yet. If elected, what he might deliver scares me. Sure, we all want "change" but we want the RIGHT changes. Change for changes sake isn't necessarily good.
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Jimmy Carter sold the same bucket of shit in 1976. It took Watergate to give the Dems the whitehouse. Without Jimmy, we would have never gotten Reagan. It's like an addict...you have to hit rock-bottom in order to rebuild your life...Obama will take us there.

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I think McCain puts a Reagan/Mondale sized arse whooping on Clinton and OBama.

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I think McCain puts a Reagan/Mondale sized arse whooping on Clinton and OBama.
You realize that Jimmy only won his home state, WV, and Minnesota, right? That was my first election to vote in...

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I think that BO is selling something that he cannot possibly deliver, and the people voting for him have not figured that out yet. If elected, what he might deliver scares me. Sure, we all want "change" but we want the RIGHT changes. Change for changes sake isn't necessarily good.
Our 86 year old neighbor (who is a plumber and still does service calls nearly every day ) told us today that he remembers being 9 years old and waiting in line with his mother for free flour during the Great Depression, he then mentioned that he fears it will be happening again if Obama takes office.

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I will cut taxes, I will pull out troops, I will change change change change America. This is a new time. Yet, I still have one question. How? I do believe he is a very likeable person but beyond his change change change he's got nothing. He might have good values and be able to deliver a speech, and have that JFK type of appeal, but the mass conforming of society around him is making me sick. I think we might be in trouble.

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Our 86 year old neighbor (who is a plumber and still does service calls nearly every day ) told us today that he remembers being 9 years old and waiting in line with his mother for free flour during the Great Depression, he then mentioned that he fears it will be happening again if Obama takes office.

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I remember being in line for gas during the carter administration

Surely does not compare to the great depression, but I get what you are saying.
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Our 86 year old neighbor (who is a plumber and still does service calls nearly every day ) told us today that he remembers being 9 years old and waiting in line with his mother for free flour during the Great Depression, he then mentioned that he fears it will be happening again if Obama takes office.

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I have no doubts. The guy seems to have zero concept of what he is actually doing. Eventually we will have to ride out this course, and EVERYONE in D.C. seems to want to interfere and stop the process, which will only make it worse and more painful.

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I remember being in line for gas during the carter administration

Surely does not compare to the great depression, but I get what you are saying.
The only thing worse than what Carter did to us economically, was what he did to us in the eyes of the world when it came to the Iran hostages. For over a year, "Nightline" (which was created around this tragedy) came on each night, to show what a coward Carter truly was. The Iranians mocked us EVERY DAY, and we did nothing. Until...Ronnie gets into office. On Inauguration Day, they release our folks, for fear of what a REAL leader would do to them. It still makes me sick to my stomach...

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The only thing worse than what Carter did to us economically, was what he did to us in the eyes of the world when it came to the Iran hostages. For over a year, "Nightline" (which was created around this tragedy) came on each night, to show what a coward Carter truly was. The Iranians mocked us EVERY DAY, and we did nothing. Until...Ronnie gets into office. On Inauguration Day, they release our folks, for fear of what a REAL leader would do to them. It still makes me sick to my stomach...
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Our 86 year old neighbor (who is a plumber and still does service calls nearly every day ) told us today that he remembers being 9 years old and waiting in line with his mother for free flour during the Great Depression, he then mentioned that he fears it will be happening again if Obama takes office.

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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
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A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
We haven't had a bad economy...I blamed Clinton for 911 because of his lack of action, not for the economy.

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Clinton did the best thing for the economy by doing nothing at all.

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And... my point is proven.
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And... my point is proven.
But he followed suit in all phases of being president, including doing nothing to bolster national security after knowing we were being targeted by al Qaeda. Look at the issues with Mogadishu and Kosovo we have because of him "doing nothing".

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I am so fucking glad that some of the fools on here are not involved in politics. Most of you are talking out of your ass.
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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
Yes, because the financial markets react to fear and uncertainty more than anything else. Nothing is more worrisome than a guy who says he is going to change everything while not saying how.
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Yes, because the financial markets react to fear and uncertainty more than anything else. Nothing is more worrisome than a guy who says he is going to change everything while not saying how.
Very true...think about what is driving $105 a barrel oil, and $3.15 gas...speculation. The same guys that will react when Hillary/Obama hit office. Hillary has already hinted at changing the taxation of monies made in the stock market, so guess what? When/if she's elected, the "big boys" pull out of an already slow market.

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I will cut taxes, I will pull out troops, I will change change change change America. This is a new time. Yet, I still have one question. How? I do believe he is a very likeable person but beyond his change change change he's got nothing. He might have good values and be able to deliver a speech, and have that JFK type of appeal, but the mass conforming of society around him is making me sick. I think we might be in trouble.

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Well I for one hope McCain gets the nod in Nov . I honestly think McCain or Obama can do as good or better job than G.W has done . I really hate to say it but over all his fumbled his 8 years in office and I think most people are ready to see him go .

Either way , we still have a long road ahead of us before things start to get better .
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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
Basically what I get from this is no matter who's in office whatever happens is the previous presidents fault? So Clintons rise in the economy would be the first W's doing, and present W's problems are all a because of Clinton?

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Well I for one hope McCain gets the nod in Nov . I honestly think McCain or Obama can do as good or better job than G.W has done . I really hate to say it but over all his fumbled his 8 years in office and I think most people are ready to see him go .

Either way , we still have a long road ahead of us before things start to get better .
I'll be glad when Gee Dubya leaves office just so the demolibs lose their favorite whipping boy. They will need to find another scape goat to blame all the problems on soon.

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Well I for one hope McCain gets the nod in Nov . I honestly think McCain or Obama can do as good or better job than G.W has done . I really hate to say it but over all his fumbled his 8 years in office and I think most people are ready to see him go .

Either way , we still have a long road ahead of us before things start to get better .
You know I look at the things that Dubya has had to deal with in his presidency whether it be 9/11, Katrina, Fires in California he has kept composure through it all. Now the war whether I disagree with it or not, I am a believer in you have to support our leaders decision and always always support our troops

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You know I look at the things that Dubya has had to deal with in his presidency whether it be 9/11, Katrina, Fires in California he has kept composure through it all. Now the war whether I disagree with it or not, I am a believer in you have to support our leaders decision and always always support our troops
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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
The President of the United States has NOTHING to do with the economy. No matter how much they try to say they do, or can do for it, they can't do squat.

Its congress that has the power to levi taxes (not the president).

It's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to have a job, (not the governments).

It's YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to pay your bills and mortgages on time (not the governments).

If you got a shitty sub-prime loan, APR, Interest only loan, then its YOUR FAULT, not the governments.

It seems the media wants you to belive its the government who controls your life and the economy, its not .. its YOUR JOB. People need to take responsibility for their own actions and stop acting like a Victim.

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You know I look at the things that Dubya has had to deal with in his presidency whether it be 9/11, Katrina, Fires in California he has kept composure through it all. Now the war whether I disagree with it or not, I am a believer in you have to support our leaders decision and always always support our troops
Except for the part about supporting the troops, and only a fool wouldn't, that's the biggest crock of shit I've heard in a long time. Dubya didn't "deal" with 9-11. He didn't "deal" with Katrina. Fires in California...? Dubya has served his masters very well and I don't see where I need to support his decisions to fuck me over. I don't see where I need to support any of these assholes decisions at this point in time.

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Except for the part about supporting the troops, and only a fool wouldn't, that's the biggest crock of shit I've heard in a long time. Dubya didn't "deal" with 9-11. He didn't "deal" with Katrina. Fires in California...? Dubya has served his masters very well and I don't see where I need to support his decisions to fuck me over.

What would you have Dubya do in regards to 911? Have we been hit since? Nope. Hence, dealt with.
KAtrina? Not his problem. That is a state issue.
CA fires? See above. Not the federal govt's problem.
His decisions f you over? Oh geez. Would it be asking to much to expect you to be accountable for your own mistakes?

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What would you have Dubya do in regards to 911? Have we been hit since? Nope. Hence, dealt with.

His decisions f you over? Oh geez. Would it be asking to much to expect you to be accountable for your own mistakes?
I was kinda hoping a "dead or alive" Bin Laden wouldn't be too much trouble. I mean, he did promise did he not?

I am accountable for my mistakes. What does that have to do with decisions made in DC?

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I was kinda hoping a "dead or alive" Bin Laden wouldn't be too much trouble. I mean, he did promise did he not?

I am accountable for my mistakes. What does that have to do with decisions made in DC?
...and "Katrina"? Give me a break...

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All they want to do is blame bush.These motherfuc................... will pray for bush after the next 4 years ahead.

And obama will win, when you got blacks voteing for hem just becaues hes black its not becaues real issues at hand. The compleat idiots we have in are collages, first time voters,we are fucked.
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Wait... so, if come February, 2009, President Obama is hangin' at the White House, and all of the sudden... a Depression hits... you think it's because Obama's in the White House?

George W. Bush is putting this country through a recession, that could very put us on the verge of another depression. The pest part is, the administration has daily press conferences saying that we're not headed for a recession, followed by a business news report (even on the Fox stations) saying that we are.

A lot of Republicans believe Bush was handed a bad economy, so for the past 8 years they've blamed Clinton. Is George W. Bush going to shoulder ANY of the blame for it?
Ya... just about as fast as the economy started its decline when Bush took over from Clinton.
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All they want to do is blame bush.These motherfuc................... will pray for bush after the next 4 years ahead.

And obama will win, when you got blacks voteing for hem just becaues hes black its not becaues real issues at hand. The compleat idiots we have in are collages, first time voters,we are fucked.
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All they want to do is blame bush.These motherfuc................... will pray for bush after the next 4 years ahead.

And obama will win, when you got blacks voteing for hem just becaues hes black its not becaues real issues at hand. The compleat idiots we have in are collages, first time voters,we are fucked.
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So... is there any other candidate that isn't saying what Obama is saying?

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So... is there any other candidate that isn't saying what Obama is saying?
Are you saying what I think you're saying?!?!
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Are you saying what I think you're saying?!?!
I'm only saying what you think I'm saying if you think I'm saying what you think I am saying.

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Their is not one of them that even deserve to be the leader of our country.
obama is the new jimmy carter, not much you can say about clinton besides
a joke, and mcCanie the war hero (pow) thinks thats hes ticket in .I would rather see mcCanie in office but he does not seem like a strong leader.
If obama did get elected destroyed the country for 4 years maybe we will run into
a Reagan to make us proud of America again. I have to small boys and it scares me of what is ahead for them.
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Their is not one of them that even deserve to be the leader of our country.
obama is the new jimmy carter, not much you can say about clinton besides
a joke, and mcCanie the war hero (pow) thinks thats hes ticket in .I would rather see mcCanie in office but he does not seem like a strong leader.
If obama did get elected destroyed the country for 4 years maybe we will run into
a Reagan to make us proud of America again. I have to small boys and it scares me of what is ahead for them.
I see manual labor in their future.

On another note, you should be a guest on Hannity and Combs. You'd do great!
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