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I can't wait to see McCain play his hand...

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ROCKY RIVER, Ohio (CNN) -- Republican presidential candidate John McCain defended his belief that U.S. troops will need to stay in Iraq for decades Monday but said the unpopular war will soon end "for all intents and purposes."


"My friends, the war will be over soon ... for all intents and purposes," Sen. John McCain said Monday.

McCain said his potential Democratic rivals have distorted his January comment that U.S. forces may need to remain in Iraq for up to 100 years. Speaking at a campaign event in suburban Cleveland, Ohio, he said that referred to a long-term American presence similar to those in South Korea or Kuwait.

"My friends, the war will be over soon ... for all intents and purposes, although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years," the Arizona senator said. "But it will be handled by the Iraqis, not by us."

Nearly two-thirds of Americans now oppose the nearly five-year-old Iraq war, according to a CNN poll taken in mid-January. McCain has been an outspoken supporter of President Bush's decision to pour nearly 30,000 additional troops into the conflict, a move he and other advocates credit with a sharp reduction in sectarian warfare and U.S. casualties.

"I think that clearly my fortunes have a lot to do with what's happening in Iraq, and I'm proud of that," he told CNN.

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McCain's campaign was written off for dead last summer. It rebounded after a staff shakeup about the same time that American fortunes in Iraq appeared to turn. But at a town hall meeting before January's New Hampshire primary, McCain told a questioner that the United States could have forces in Iraq for "maybe 100" years.

"We've been in Japan for 60 years," he said. "We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That would be fine with me, as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed."

Both Democratic contenders, Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, now regularly pound McCain over the remark.

"He has said he wants to keep our troops in Iraq -- it would be fine with him -- for 50 years to 100 years," Clinton said Monday. "I will start bringing them home within 60 days." Watch McCain's remarks on War in Iraq »

McCain said his potential Democratic rivals are less forthcoming about their own predictions last year that the effort to secure Baghdad and its surrounding provinces "would absolutely fail."

"But all those will be subjects of debate as we move forward"




I see that he hasn't forgot some of the shit that the asshole Democrats said last year. The ones who spoke out and said American troops in the field were destined for failure during a time of war. Fucking traitors. I can't wait to see him call these mother fuckers out on the carpet during the debates and have them defend what they said. He may not win but he'll make sure our servicemen have their satisfaction.
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He will eat Obama alive in a real debate, but it may not be enough to beat him in a general election. Most Obama followers aren't into substance right now...it's all about "hope".

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lmao! bring the troops home within 60 days of being elected! LOL Hillary!

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He will eat Obama alive in a real debate, but it may not be enough to beat him in a general election. Most Obama followers aren't into substance right now...it's all about "hope".
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I just don't understand people. Obama comes in with all this "change" "hope"...and people eat it alive.

There isn't going to be any change....just the same shit, different day
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I just don't understand people. Obama comes in with all this "change" "hope"...and people eat it alive.

There isn't going to be any change....just the same shit, different day
Don't tell that to all the voters who put the Dems in control of Congress.

Boy they sure have got a lot done.
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Don't tell that to all the voters who put the Dems in control of Congress.

Boy they sure have got a lot done.
...and at a 20% approval rating to boot.

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lmao! bring the troops home within 60 days of being elected! LOL Hillary!
I laugh every time she says it because its a blatant lie. Hillary isn't going to go through four years of being blamed for losing the war. Also, she actually has a halfway decent mind on defense issues. In other words, she'll find an excuse to not pull them out in 60 days...

As for McCain. His 100 year statement was stupid. It has been taken way out of context but he shouldn't have put it out there to begin with. I've known all along we would have a base in Kurdish territory for a long time. Its a damn good place to build a base because the area if highly pro American and it makes the Iranians more nervous. McCain just needs to watch how he words things like that. To many mofo's are looking to have a "gotcha" moment from him..

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Has Obama actually said how he's going to accomplish ANY of his changes?
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Hillary isn't going to go through four years of being blamed for losing the war.

UUUhhhhh what? Surely you can't be serious...

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I just don't understand people. Obama comes in with all this "change" "hope"...and people eat it alive.

There isn't going to be any change....just the same shit, different day
I guess as a senator he is well versed in "hoping" to make some "changes" some day. I don't believe we've seen any substantive legislation out of him as a senator
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UUUhhhhh what? Surely you can't be serious...
LOL, what would an immediate pullout be called, oh taco philosopher?

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I guess as a senator he is well versed in "hoping" to make some "changes" some day. I don't believe we've seen any substantive legislation out of him as a senator
No but that Chicago mob is chomping at the bit to get federal legislation overriding state constitutions which designate a right-to-work environment.
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I just don't understand people. Obama comes in with all this "change" "hope"...and people eat it alive.

There isn't going to be any change....just the same shit, different day
It isn't really all that hard to understand. People are tired of shit not working. When shit doesn't work, people get fired. It doesn't mean that the new guy will be any better. At this point, the best the country can really "hope" for is something different.

It is kinda sad that the last 8 years have beaten people down enough that they have resorted to the equivalent to hoping for a miracle.

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It doesn't matter if its true or not. That is going to be the public perception.
i was more taken aback by your word choice. 'Losing' the war already happened. Then oh hey, it was back on. Then we sent a 'surge', and it 'worked', or al-Sadr just told his guys to chill the fuck out.

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i was more taken aback by your word choice. 'Losing' the war already happened. Then oh hey, it was back on. Then we sent a 'surge', and it 'worked', or al-Sadr just told his guys to chill the fuck out.
I love you liberal idiots and your logic, or lack thereof. Yeah, we already lost the war and the only reason our troops have gotten the situation under control is because some idiot religious leader decided to have "his guys chill the fuck out". More taco philosophical logic!

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i was more taken aback by your word choice. 'Losing' the war already happened. Then oh hey, it was back on. Then we sent a 'surge', and it 'worked', or al-Sadr just told his guys to chill the fuck out.
The war is not over yet so I am not sure what you mean by "losing". Al-Sadr did tell his guys to chill out. I have no idea why. But it has put him at a tactical disadvantage because now he is the only bad guy left with a significant presence. If he starts his shit up again it is going to be open season on his sorry yellow tooth ass. Just think about it, he's got a seasoned US army just sitting there with no one to kill and nowhere to go. If he is smart he will wait until the troops leave but from what I have read he is a reactionary hot head.
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I love you liberal idiots and your logic, or lack thereof. Yeah, we already lost the war and the only reason our troops have gotten the situation under control is because some idiot religious leader decided to have "his guys chill the fuck out". More taco philosophical logic!
Or, a factual representation of events. I dunno where you get your logic from, mr. funnyman. It's funny you refer to logic as if you possess some tiny minute amount of it when you decide to speak your mind. I'd trust anything that came form the mouth of a thinker over that which came from a dirty cop. We all know your logical background, so fuck off and try something else. This just doesn't suit you...

On the other hand, I find it funny you repeatedly lament on the fact that I own a mexican restaurant, but you will never be anything but a police officer. Hey good job though, you'll be making a secure 35 grand for the rest of your life...

Logic is not for those who can't even recognize and eliminate out the manifold fallacies which you continually churn out. It's literally funny you think of yourself as logical in any sense of the word.

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The war is not over yet so I am not sure what you mean by "losing". Al-Sadr did tell his guys to chill out. I have no idea why. But it has put him at a tactical disadvantage because now he is the only bad guy left with a significant presence. If he starts his shit up again it is going to be open season on his sorry yellow tooth ass. Just think about it, he's got a seasoned US army just sitting there with no one to kill and nowhere to go. If he is smart he will wait until the troops leave but from what I have read he is a reactionary hot head.
I'll agree, save for the very 'warhood' of this war, for lack of a better term. The war was over a long time ago, justifiable or not. What we have going on now is an occupation in every sense of the word.

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i was more taken aback by your word choice. 'Losing' the war already happened. Then oh hey, it was back on. Then we sent a 'surge', and it 'worked', or al-Sadr just told his guys to chill the fuck out.
When did we ever lose? We have always been killing more of them than they have us. We have been killing larger percentages of them. We haven't fought the war post 9/11 on our soil. What about that is losing?

The enemy is running out of ranks. AQ actually doesn't do much direct terrorism anymore. They pay Joe Habib 100 bucks to set off an IED and run. They are recruiting more and more children. Running out of the able bodied male. All AQ really does is maintain a propaganda campaign.
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The enemy is running out of ranks. AQ actually doesn't do much direct terrorism anymore. They pay Joe Habib 100 bucks to set off an IED and run. They are recruiting more and more children. Running out of the able bodied male. All AQ really does is maintain a propaganda campaign.
And it takes practically our whole damned military with $12.5 Billion a month in cost to manage that?

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Or, a factual representation of events. I dunno where you get your logic from, mr. funnyman. It's funny you refer to logic as if you possess some tiny minute amount of it when you decide to speak your mind. I'd trust anything that came form the mouth of a thinker over that which came from a dirty cop. We all know your logical background, so fuck off and try something else. This just doesn't suit you... On the other hand, I find it funny you repeatedly lament on the fact that I own a mexican restaurant, but you will never be anything but a police officer. Hey good job though, you'll be making a secure 35 grand for the rest of your life...
Logic is not for those who can't even recognize and eliminate out the manifold fallacies which you continually churn out. It's literally funny you think of yourself as logical in any sense of the word. You're a joke
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Full of all kinds of personal attacks, and no substance, isn't that just what you dislike? With your great skills you can do much better.
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a few of the things being worked on in Iraq

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And it takes practically our whole damned military with $12.5 Billion a month in cost to manage that?
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I'll agree, save for the very 'warhood' of this war, for lack of a better term. The war was over a long time ago, justifiable or not. What we have going on now is an occupation in every sense of the word.

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Hmmm...I can think of a bunch of things that need to be worked on in America.

What are the Iraqi's doing while we're doing all these projects for em?

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I'll agree, save for the very 'warhood' of this war, for lack of a better term. The war was over a long time ago, justifiable or not. What we have going on now is an occupation in every sense of the word.
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And it takes practically our whole damned military with $12.5 Billion a month in cost to manage that?
By having such an overwhelming presence we can acheive the desired endstate faster, with less casualties, both soldier and civilian. Further, terrorism requires more aggressive tactics than a conventional war.
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And it takes practically our whole damned military with $12.5 Billion a month in cost to manage that?
And you think that the occupation is all about, what? 12.5 billion a month is a piss in the bucket.

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Hmmm...I can think of a bunch of things that need to be worked on in America.

What are the Iraqi's doing while we're doing all these projects for em?
http://www.america.gov/st/peacesec-e...k0.659466.html


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When did we ever lose? We have always been killing more of them than they have us. We have been killing larger percentages of them. We haven't fought the war post 9/11 on our soil. What about that is losing?

The enemy is running out of ranks. AQ actually doesn't do much direct terrorism anymore. They pay Joe Habib 100 bucks to set off an IED and run. They are recruiting more and more children. Running out of the able bodied male. All AQ really does is maintain a propaganda campaign.
I apologize, i didn't mean the war was lost, I misstated that. I meant the war was already won.

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I am NOT arab, stupid fuck.

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Has Obama actually said how he's going to accomplish ANY of his changes?
that's what I've asked, but Obama supporters always freak out and point me to the debates and his website, and so I watch/go, and I don't know anything more specific about how he's going to do it. For him, it's all about the what, and that's why he's got the sheeple all lined up behind him.

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I am NOT arab, stupid fuck.

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Today, everybody's got everybody's blood in them. Persians > Arabs.
LOL, my little mensa, dumbass.

I really don't give a shit about your little > sign. My kids are Americans with birth certificates in the great country of Texas.

They know their heritage, like I do which is 50% hungarian and 50% irish but, like me, they also know they are 100% Americans before anything else.

Of course, 100% American kids that understand they have quite an interest in about 1MM worth of real estate in Great Britian.

My 401K is now a 400K (was 301K)

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I apologize, i didn't mean the war was lost, I misstated that. I meant the war was already won.
Ah, nevermind then...
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So...tear it up then rebuild it. Nation building. A very expensive "Habitat for Humanity" in Iraq. I still don't see where it's feasible to bankrupt ourselves to feed that money funnel. The day ain't gonna come where I care more about Iraq than I do America. We can't afford to fix both and at least America would stay fixed for more than half a year. And it's where my family hopes to grow up and have a decent life. Seriously man, it's time to leave the craps table. There is no payoff.

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so your a little bit Arab?

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Today, everybody's got everybody's blood in them. Persians > Arabs.
thanks for admitting it.
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thanks for admitting it.
If I am, then so are you, thanks for admitting it.

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LOL, my little mensa, dumbass.

I really don't give a shit about your little > sign. My kids are Americans with birth certificates in the great country of Texas.

They know their heritage, like I do which is 50% hungarian and 50% irish but, like me, they also know they are 100% Americans before anything else.

Of course, 100% American kids that understand they have quite an interest in about 1MM worth of real estate in Great Britian.
Hey man, uuh, you drunk?

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No sir. That would be the result of not pulling out...
as would you?

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I bestow that which is given to me. In rational discourse I will open up to any and all view points. When I am attacked, I will undoubtedly defend myself. This is only natural.
it just shows you're lack self control, be what you want to be, don't blame others for what you become.

Whatever cannot obey itself, is commanded.
Such is the nature of living things.

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I don't have a problem with that

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If I am, then so are you, thanks for admitting it.

There is not one gene, trait, or characteristic that distinguishes all members of one race from all members of another. We can map any number of traits and none would match our idea of race. This is because modern humans haven't been around long enough to evolve into different subspecies and we've always moved, mated, and mixed our genes. Beneath the skin, we are one of the most genetically similar of all species.
http://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/00...ound-01-11.htm
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I look forward to the debates.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at 10pm.so why is it a problem to call and bitch.it wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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trust me ...if obama is elected......there will be CHANGE
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trust me ...if obama is elected......there will be CHANGE
No, just talk about change with no real plan backing it. Just like Kerry's poor showing after his primaries, Obama will be exposed as the fraud he is.
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