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...and people criticize Bush for his public speaking.

I was cracking up when I found this little gem in an article about Obama's reposnse to Hillary's claims that Obama plagarized in his speeches:

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So I make no apologies for being able to talk good.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t...ton_plagi.html

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He must have gone to The Derek Zoolander School for Kids who Can't Read Good.


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He must have gone to The Derek Zoolander School for Kids who Can't Read Good.
ha. i let out an audible laugh when I read that.

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The plaigarism issue ruined Joe Biden's campaign in '88. This might not go away.

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Oh, you got him good there. Obama only has 20 billion more speech errors to make before he catches up with your boy, W.
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Yah I think it's pretty amazing when politicians have a speaking error and they get crusified. For as much speaking as they do with the whole world listening they are going to screw up, they are only human. Bush has said some pretty fucking funny stuff though lol.

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Oh, you got him good there. Obama only has 20 billion more speech errors to make before he catches up with your boy, W.
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What did Obama plagerize? I heard sometnign about it, but what are the details?

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Obama Shrugs Off Clinton Plagiarism Charge
By Peter Slevin
NILES, Ohio -- Sen. Barack Obama made clear this afternoon that he is decidedly unimpressed with the flap over his decision to borrow a few memorable lines about speechmaking from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick (D).

Talking with reporters at a titanium plant near Youngstown, Obama said Patrick is a friend and supporter who suggested the lines in answer to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's implication that he offers the nation little more than a pretty voice.

All things considered, Obama said, he should have given Patrick credit for the lines he delivered Saturday night at the Wisconsin Democratic Party's dinner in Milwaukee.

"Well, look, I was on the stump," Obama said when asked why he didn't attribute the lines. "He had suggested we use these lines. I thought they were good lines. I'm sure I should have. Didn't this time."

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LOL, when W does it it is because he is stupid, but when Obama or any other Dem does it, they say it was just a mistake. Oh yeah, it will also be that W made more, so therefore they are not hypocrites for defending their guy while slamming a Republican for doing the same thing. LOL

I do wonder if this plagiarism issue will get a foothold, it probably shouldn't if the guy who originally said it is okay with it's use.

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LOL, when W does it it is because he is stupid, but when Obama or any other Dem does it, they say it was just a mistake. Oh yeah, it will also be that W made more, so therefore they are not hypocrites for defending their guy while slamming a Republican for doing the same thing. LOL

I do wonder if this plagiarism issue will get a foothold, it probably shouldn't if the guy who originally said it is okay with it's use.
I think somewhere along the line, it goes from being a mistake to being stupid.
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I think somewhere along the line, it goes from being a mistake to being stupid.
LOL, I know people who thought Reagan and Clinton were both pretty stupid, yet they were eloquent speakers. I guess we are all entitled to our opinions, that is for sure.

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LOL, I know people who thought Reagan and Clinton were both pretty stupid, yet they were eloquent speakers. I guess we are all entitled to our opinions, that is for sure.
Yes, I remember when Reagan was president and hearing people laugh at him for some of the things he said. Now, those same people would give a million dollars to trade W for him.
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It's clear that when W makes a mistake, it's because he doesn't know any better. Nucular---that shit just makes me laugh every time he says it...

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LOL, when W does it it is because he is stupid, but when Obama or any other Dem does it, they say it was just a mistake. Oh yeah, it will also be that W made more, so therefore they are not hypocrites for defending their guy while slamming a Republican for doing the same thing. LOL

I do wonder if this plagiarism issue will get a foothold, it probably shouldn't if the guy who originally said it is okay with it's use.
It really is a mistake. Like Zarathustra said. George Bush says "Nucular" because he's ignorant of the word and it's pronunciation. Obama, saying "I make no apologies for being able to talk good" isn't really a mistake, even. He didn't use the most eloquent way of saying it. He could've said "I make no apologies for being able to speak well."

The speech came from Deval Patrick. David Axelrod, was Patrick's adviser and speech-writer. Axelrod is now Obama's chief strategist. I'm pretty sure no one minds him using it.

Obama: "So, just be clear, speeches don't put food on the table"
Bush: "I know it's hard to put food on your family."

I mean... you can TRY and compare them.
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Who gives a shit whether they have proper grammer and speech. Proper policies and decisions would impress me much more.

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It really is a mistake. Like Zarathustra said. George Bush says "Nucular" because he's ignorant of the word and it's pronunciation. Obama, saying "I make no apologies for being able to talk good" isn't really a mistake, even. He didn't use the most eloquent way of saying it. He could've said "I make no apologies for being able to speak well."

The speech came from Deval Patrick. David Axelrod, was Patrick's adviser and speech-writer. Axelrod is now Obama's chief strategist. I'm pretty sure no one minds him using it.

Obama: "So, just be clear, speeches don't put food on the table"
Bush: "I know it's hard to put food on your family."

I mean... you can TRY and compare them.
I was just pointing out that the liberal idiots would be hypocritical and defend Obama while slamming on Bush. And I was right, again!

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George Bush says "Nucular" because he's ignorant of the word and it's pronunciation.
Are you really that into the semantics of the issues that surround the people who you don't support?

He says it "Nucular" becuase he's a semi-wanna be hick. I don't know what that has to do with his duties as a poltician, which is why I made this thread. It doesn't matter; it's all smoke and mirrors to distract people from what's actually going on.

Now as to whether what actually is going on favors one candidate or Bush or anyone isn't relevant; the fact that it's being ignored is the problem. I'd rather someone tell me that they don't like Bush because of such and such policy rather than because "he can't speak good." i'm not saying that you are guilty of this, but plenty of the people that support your man Obama are very guilty.

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I was just pointing out that the liberal idiots would be hypocritical and defend Obama while slamming on Bush. And I was right, again!
That's like saying "I'm gonna say the sky isn't blue, and you're gonna say 'no, it really is blue.'".

Seriously. You can't defend Bush's ignorance of the English language. Here, I'll try. I'll put him up against Obama.

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"Trying to stop suiciders -- which we're doing a pretty good job of on occasion -- is difficult to do. And what the Iraqis are going to have to eventually do is convince those who are conducting suiciders who are not inspired by Al Qaeda, for example, to realize there's a peaceful tomorrow."

"I would say the best moment of all was when I caught a 7.5 pound largemouth bass in my lake." --George W. Bush, on his best moment in office, interview with the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag, May 7, 2006

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"You never know what your history is going to be like until long after you're gone."

"The point now is how do we work together to achieve important goals. And one such goal is a democracy in Germany."

"That's George Washington, the first president, of course. The interesting thing about him is that I read three -- three or four books about him last year. Isn't that interesting?"

"Finally, the desk, where we'll have our picture taken in front of -- is nine other Presidents used it. This was given to us by Queen Victoria in the 1870s, I think it was. President Roosevelt put the door in so people would not know he was in a wheelchair. John Kennedy put his head out the door."

"That's called, A Charge To Keep, based upon a religious hymn. The hymn talks about serving God. The president's job is never to promote a religion."

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"I aim to be a competitive nation."

"I'm the decider, and I decide what is best. And what's best is for Don Rumsfeld to remain as the Secretary of Defense."

"I strongly believe what we're doing is the right thing. If I didn't believe it -- I'm going to repeat what I said before -- I'd pull the troops out, nor if I believed we could win, I would pull the troops out."

"No question that the enemy has tried to spread sectarian violence. They use violence as a tool to do that."

"If the Iranians were to have a nuclear weapon they could proliferate."

"After the bombing, most Iraqis saw what the perpetuators of this attack were trying to do."

"And so I'm for medical liability at the federal level."

"I believe that a prosperous, democratic Pakistan will be a steadfast partner for America, a peaceful neighbor for India, and a force for freedom and moderation in the Arab world." --George W. Bush, mistakenly identifying Pakistan as an Arab country, Islamabad, Pakistan, March 3, 2006

"People don't need to worry about security. This deal wouldn't go forward if we were concerned about the security for the United States of America." --George W. Bush, on the deal to hand over U.S. port security to a company operated by the United Arab Emirates, Washington, D.C., Feb. 23, 2006

"And I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company." --George W. Bush, defending a plan to allow a company controlled by the United Arab Emirates to manage ports in the United States, aboard Air Force One, Feb. 21, 2006

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"I like my buddies from west Texas. I liked them when I was young, I liked them then I was middle-age, I liked them before I was president, and I like them during president, and I like them after president."

"He was a state sponsor of terror. In other words, the government had declared, you are a state sponsor of terror."

"It's a heck of a place to bring your family." --George W. Bush, on New Orleans, New Orleans, La., Jan. 12, 2006

"You took an oath to defend our flag and our freedom, and you kept that oath underseas and under fire."

"As you can possibly see, I have an injury myself -- not here at the hospital, but in combat with a cedar. I eventually won. The cedar gave me a little scratch. As a matter of fact, the Colonel asked if I needed first aid when she first saw me. I was able to avoid any major surgical operations here, but thanks for your compassion, Colonel." --George W. Bush, after visiting with wounded veterans from the Amputee Care Center of Brooke Army Medical Center, San Antonio, Texas, Jan. 1, 2006

"[I]t's a myth to think I don't know what's going on. It's a myth to think that I'm not aware that there's opinions that don't agree with mine, because I'm fully aware of that."

"I mean, there was a serious international effort to say to Saddam Hussein, you're a threat. And the 9/11 attacks extenuated that threat, as far as I-concerned."

"I think we are welcomed. But it was not a peaceful welcome."

"Those who enter the country illegally violate the law."

"As a matter of fact, I know relations between our governments is good."

"Wow! Brazil is big." --George W. Bush, after being shown a map of Brazil by Brazilian president Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Brasilia, Brazil, Nov. 6, 2005

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"I can't wait to join you in the joy of welcoming neighbors back into neighborhoods, and small businesses up and running, and cutting those ribbons that somebody is creating new jobs."

"Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job." --George W. Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, who resigned 10 days later amid criticism over his job performance, Mobile, Ala., Sept. 2, 2005

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"My thoughts are, we're going to get somebody who knows what they're talking about when it comes to rebuilding cities."

"Americans should be prudent in their use of energy during the course of the next few weeks. Don't buy gas if you don't need it."

"It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground."

"The best place for the facts to be done is by somebody who's spending time investigating it."

"I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend."

"The relations with, uhh -- Europe are important relations, and they've, uhh -- because, we do share values. And, they're universal values, they're not American values or, you know -- European values, they're universal values. And those values -- uhh -- being universal, ought to be applied everywhere."

"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war."

"And the second way to defeat the terrorists is to spread freedom. You see, the best way to defeat a society that is -- doesn't have hope, a society where people become so angry they're willing to become suiciders, is to spread freedom, is to spread democracy."

"It seemed like to me they based some of their decisions on the word of -- and the allegations -- by people who were held in detention, people who hate America, people that had been trained in some instances to disassemble -- that means not tell the truth."

"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."

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His speech and ripping off content from others isn't what scares the hell out of me about Obama.

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His speech and ripping off content from others isn't what scares the hell out of me about Obama.
You're scared of his ginormous black man cock, aren't you? My butthole puckers every time the TV shows him with that sappy grin/smile on his face.


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President Bush: "Peter. Are you going to ask that question with shades on?"
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Shit happens.

I was working election day for a campaign one time (candidate to remain anonymous) who approached a black couple who were dressed to a "T". Granted it was a Tuesday but these people were dressed like they were about to step out for a night on the town...

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I was working election day for a campaign one time (candidate to remain anonymous) who approached a black couple who were dressed to a "T". Granted it was a Tuesday but these people were dressed like they were about to step out for a night on the town...

Candidate: "Thank you for dressing up to come vote for such an important election."

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^^^ sounds about right.

Words do doing for me... I like action. As long as I can understand what he is saying who care what he says. This woud make a good thread on here. "What have your presidential canidates done to make the country better?" The negatives would be a good thing to post to.

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blah blah blah, cut and paste, blah blah blah
You are the epitome of a hypocritical Bush hating idiot who says Bush is stupid while saying Obama just makes mistakes. I love you liberal idiots. BTW, several others have made fun of your point in this thread, why just worry about me making fun of you?

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George Bush says "Nucular" because he's ignorant of the word and it's pronunciation.
I'm pretty sure that's not the case since he's been beaten down by that so often. I myself grew up saying it that way, and I know the correct pronunciation, but if I'm not thinking about the pronunciation I'll say it incorrectly every time. I also say "ruf" instead of "roof" and use sayings like "Y'all". None of them are grammatically correct, but since I've been saying them almost 30 years it's hard to break the habit. I'm not saying he doesn't have other issues going on, but that never bothered me personally.

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I'm pretty sure that's not the case since he's been beaten down by that so often. I myself grew up saying it that way, and I know the correct pronunciation, but if I'm not thinking about the pronunciation I'll say it incorrectly every time. I also say "ruf" instead of "roof" and use sayings like "Y'all". None of them are grammatically correct, but since I've been saying them almost 30 years it's hard to break the habit. I'm not saying he doesn't have other issues going on, but that never bothered me personally.
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I'm pretty sure that's not the case since he's been beaten down by that so often. I myself grew up saying it that way, and I know the correct pronunciation, but if I'm not thinking about the pronunciation I'll say it incorrectly every time. I also say "ruf" instead of "roof" and use sayings like "Y'all". None of them are grammatically correct, but since I've been saying them almost 30 years it's hard to break the habit. I'm not saying he doesn't have other issues going on, but that never bothered me personally.
Wow I thought I was the only one. I say rum instead of room too.

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Just curious, did anyone hear how he delivered that line? It could very easily be sarcastic.
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Just curious, did anyone hear how he delivered that line? It could very easily be sarcastic.
Not amongst staunch conservatives, it couldn't.

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You are the epitome of a hypocritical Bush hating idiot who says Bush is stupid while saying Obama just makes mistakes. I love you liberal idiots. BTW, several others have made fun of your point in this thread, why just worry about me making fun of you?
No one else in this thread has "made fun of me". They've argued, or made a point against... but you're the only one that is, to put it lightly, venomous.

It's not that I "worry" about you making fun of me. You're just the douchiest of douche bags about everything you speak of.

I'd "worry" about it, if I were less intelligent than you. But come on... I mean, just read your posts in this thread alone. Your lack of understand is about the only thing you've ever been able to prove.
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No one else in this thread has "made fun of me". They've argued, or made a point against... but you're the only one that is, to put it lightly, venomous.

It's not that I "worry" about you making fun of me. You're just the douchiest of douche bags about everything you speak of.

I'd "worry" about it, if I were less intelligent than you. But come on... I mean, just read your posts in this thread alone. Your lack of understand is about the only thing you've ever been able to prove.
Dude i wouldn't even dignify that asshole with a response to his routine regurgitations of rightist propaganda disguised as his opinion. He's proven, at least to me, that time and time again he is completely incapable of intellectual thought. Free from reality and reason he operates on his own playing field, above all of us...

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Not amongst staunch conservatives, it couldn't.

It's the wheel of hypocrisy. (It turns at about 90 an hour)
You didn't answer the question.

BTW, if you had any thought of it being sarcasm why not say so? All you've done is try to turn deflect the issue.
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It's so pathetic that when a man makes ONE mistake, the other side jumps all over him for something so fucking trivial as good vs well!!!! Are you people really doing this??? Criticizing him for saying good at the end of his sentence??? Most of you can't spell properly, and a good portion of you folks don't even use proper grammar. Yet you get all excited and jump up and down when 'person on the other side of the fence' makes a mistake? Is this how you decide and debate how to choose the next President in the new Century????? Pathetic!
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It's so pathetic that when a man makes ONE mistake, the other side jumps all over him for something so fucking trivial as good vs well!!!! Are you people really doing this??? Criticizing him for saying good at the end of his sentence??? Most of you can't spell properly, and a good portion of you folks don't even use proper grammar. Yet you get all excited and jump up and down when 'person on the other side of the fence' makes a mistake? Is this how you decide and debate how to choose the next President in the new Century????? Pathetic!
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No. It's just entertainment during the ride, you dolt!
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Dude i wouldn't even dignify that asshole with a response to his routine regurgitations of rightist propaganda disguised as his opinion. He's proven, at least to me, that time and time again he is completely incapable of intellectual thought. Free from reality and reason he operates on his own playing field, above all of us...
And I agree with you wholeheartedly. Typical internet bad ass. What a bad ass, here he is with his homey:

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No one else in this thread has "made fun of me". They've argued, or made a point against... but you're the only one that is, to put it lightly, venomous.

It's not that I "worry" about you making fun of me. You're just the douchiest of douche bags about everything you speak of.

I'd "worry" about it, if I were less intelligent than you. But come on... I mean, just read your posts in this thread alone. Your lack of understand is about the only thing you've ever been able to prove.
LOL, okay dude. You are one impressive guy. Keep thinking it and using zurethra and stang seller as evidence. LOL

BTW, what is "lack of understand", is that anything like lack of understanding?

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You didn't answer the question.

BTW, if you had any thought of it being sarcasm why not say so? All you've done is try to turn deflect the issue.
Trying to deflect the issue is all he will ever do, yet when I accuse him of it and similar things, he says I am the only one who ever accuses him of that kind of stuff. Funny how he misses all the other posts but concentrates on mine. Maybe I have an e-stalker all my own! LOL

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It's so pathetic that when a man makes ONE mistake, the other side jumps all over him for something so fucking trivial as good vs well!!!! Are you people really doing this??? Criticizing him for saying good at the end of his sentence??? Most of you can't spell properly, and a good portion of you folks don't even use proper grammar. Yet you get all excited and jump up and down when 'person on the other side of the fence' makes a mistake? Is this how you decide and debate how to choose the next President in the new Century????? Pathetic!
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Dude i wouldn't even dignify that asshole with a response to his routine regurgitations of rightist propaganda disguised as his opinion. He's proven, at least to me, that time and time again he is completely incapable of intellectual thought. Free from reality and reason he operates on his own playing field, above all of us...
Oh the irony of you accusing me of not having intellectual thought. LOL

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Yea, real ironic, you're a cop. Get over it, your presence is expendable.

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LOL, don't you make tacos and study philosophy or psychology? The taco psychlogist/philospher is trying to slam on me? Uhmkay!

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No sir, we've already established that you're simply not worth my time and skills to debate with you, you're baseless and incompetent. The fact that you're a cop is merely a further tell on the fact that morality, politics, and general discussion are not your strong suits. Now what does the fact that I own a restaurant tell you about my character?

Again, you do your part, I'll do mine. Just keep my name out of your mouth in reference to your news-based ideologies, it's old and told.

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No sir, we've already established that you're simply not worth my time and skills to debate with you, you're baseless and incompetent. The fact that you're a cop is merely a further tell on the fact that morality, politics, and general discussion are not your strong suits. Now what does the fact that I own a restaurant tell you about my character?

Again, you do your part, I'll do mine. Just keep my name out of your mouth in reference to your news-based ideologies, it's old and told.
I will continue to make fun of you, nothing you can do about that you idiot.

BTW, do your parents own the restaurant or do you?

I think zurethra is pretty catchy, especially since I made it up.

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I will continue to make fun of you, nothing you can do about that you idiot.

BTW, do your parents own the restaurant or do you?

I think zurethra is pretty catchy, especially since I made it up.
Or you could be a respectable man and engage in polite teleological discourse.

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