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9/11 was an inside job?

So i haven't really been into all that stuff about what happened, but i'm riding home yesterday, and on the back of this mini van, i see "911 was an inside job". That pissed me the hell off! I kindly flipped them the bird as i rode by. Have any of ya'll heard anything like that? How can they be so brave to live in this country, and display such words?
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Hey CBRJ,

If you have not already noticed, we're surrounded by idiots. What you saw was just more proof of it.

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Oh trust me, i've noticed. And alot of them are on this board.

But really, that just bothered the hell out of me to see that. And they were caucasian(sp?). I might understand if they were some kind of foreigner.
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Oh trust me, i've noticed. And alot of them are on this board.

But really, that just bothered the hell out of me to see that. And they were caucasian(sp?). I might understand if they were some kind of foreigner.
Well at least you let them know how you felt about it. You should've kicked off their mirror. Fucking heartless morons.

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I carry an extra WTC mini-statue made of fucking steel in my car just in case I see people like that so I can throw it through their window. Ass holes.

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So i haven't really been into all that stuff about what happened, but i'm riding home yesterday, and on the back of this mini van, i see "911 was an inside job". That pissed me the hell off! I kindly flipped them the bird as i rode by. Have any of ya'll heard anything like that? How can they be so brave to live in this country, and display such words?

You ever see something like that again feel free to take a bat and bust out all their windows and say it is in honor of my cousin that died their that day..... I will be more than happy to bail you out of jail!
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they are going to end up getting whooped or ran off the road by someone who lost family or friends on 9/11
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Yeah, i'm sure they have had plenty of run ins with people over it. And if any of ya'll are in the Ft. Worth area, i saw this white mini van on 820 and Bryant Irvin.
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The people on this very thread are showing just how much we are surrounded by idiots. I think what they had on the car was dumb and anti-american but if you are so pathetic that anytime someone displays something that offends you, you need to resort to physical violence that shows how pathetic some of you really are. The idea is freedom, free to be stupid but not free to mangle someones property with a bat or kick off a mirror possibly placing others in harms way while driving down the road. Free to display what you like, just like some people display ant-abortion, others have Calvin peeing on a chevy sign, etc.I doubt any of you actually have the nuts to act out your fantasy warrior type shit anyhow.
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Waaa, waaaa Im a bleeding heart, let everyone do what they want, this world would be a much better place. Free everything....
Fixed, for the Liberal.

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Fixed, for the Liberal.

I suppose you also feel KKK rally speeches are alright too.
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Its true though! I guess this guy has never heard of "likely to incite imminent lawless action" speech.

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The people on this very thread are showing just how much we are surrounded by idiots. I think what they had on the car was dumb and anti-american but if you are so pathetic that anytime someone displays something that offends you, you need to resort to physical violence that shows how pathetic some of you really are. The idea is freedom, free to be stupid but not free to mangle someones property with a bat or kick off a mirror possibly placing others in harms way while driving down the road. Free to display what you like, just like some people display ant-abortion, others have Calvin peeing on a chevy sign, etc.I doubt any of you actually have the nuts to act out your fantasy warrior type shit anyhow.
Says the guy who wants to act like he's going to do something when someone calls him a dumbass on the internet.
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Come the fuck on PT. Are you really that un-American? Two of the most prominent architectural pieces in this country were taken to the ground because some lawless haji mother fuckers hijacked American aircraft and flew them in to the buildings. The largest (area wise) building in this country had a plane flown in to the side of it. Do you not feel anger and rage when you see fellow "Americans", if you want to call them that, with dumb ass stickers on their car? Jesus, Mary, and Jospeh.

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Says the guy who wants to act like he's going to do something when someone calls him a dumbass on the internet.


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I think some of you misunderstand what PT said. Re-read it, he mostly states that if you don't like a bumper sticker on someone's car, you don't have the right to assault them or jack with thier car.

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I think some of you misunderstand what PT said. Re-read it, he mostly states that if you don't like a bumper sticker on someone's car, you don't have the right to assault them or jack with thier car.

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Sure we do. It is a free country right? It's not a crime if you don't get caught...
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I think some of you misunderstand what PT said. Re-read it, he mostly states that if you don't like a bumper sticker on someone's car, you don't have the right to assault them or jack with thier car.

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And I think you need to Re-Read what I said. Its not considered "Free Speech" if it is "likely to incite imminent lawless action". Brandenburg vs. Ohio?

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And I think you need to Re-Read what I said. Its not considered "Free Speech" if it is "likely to incite imminent lawless action". Brandenburg vs. Ohio?
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So yeah, this thread is taking off now!

So PT, if someone related to you were gunned down, and the killer got away with it, and displayed it on their vehicle allll the time, and you ran across it, you wouldn't feel enough anger to want to do them or teir vehicle any harm?
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So yeah, this thread is taking off now!

So PT, if someone related to you were gunned down, and the killer got away with it, and displayed it on their vehicle allll the time, and you ran across it, you wouldn't feel enough anger to want to do them or teir vehicle any harm?
He will reply "no" for one simple reason, he more than likely has never been put in that kind of situation. The same could be said for most people who critisize 9/11.

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I'm taking that bumper sticker as an admission of guilt. Would I be wrong?
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And I think you need to Re-Read what I said. Its not considered "Free Speech" if it is "likely to incite imminent lawless action". Brandenburg vs. Ohio?
How could this incite lawless action?

The people on this very thread are showing just how much we are surrounded by idiots. I think what they had on the car was dumb and anti-american but if you are so pathetic that anytime someone displays something that offends you, you need to resort to physical violence that shows how pathetic some of you really are. The idea is freedom, free to be stupid but not free to mangle someones property with a bat or kick off a mirror possibly placing others in harms way while driving down the road. Free to display what you like, just like some people display ant-abortion, others have Calvin peeing on a chevy sign, etc.I doubt any of you actually have the nuts to act out your fantasy warrior type shit anyhow.
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How could this incite lawless action?

The people on this very thread are showing just how much we are surrounded by idiots. I think what they had on the car was dumb and anti-american but if you are so pathetic that anytime someone displays something that offends you, you need to resort to physical violence that shows how pathetic some of you really are. The idea is freedom, free to be stupid but not free to mangle someones property with a bat or kick off a mirror possibly placing others in harms way while driving down the road. Free to display what you like, just like some people display ant-abortion, others have Calvin peeing on a chevy sign, etc.I doubt any of you actually have the nuts to act out your fantasy warrior type shit anyhow.
His quote would not incite lawless action. The person's sticker on the car would, and quite possibly will. I know for a fact that if I saw something like that, the person would get AT VERY LEAST a good ass ripping.

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Fixed, for the Liberal.

I suppose you also feel KKK rally speeches are alright too.
I don't like their message but if they wish to be a group of dumbasses feel free. Also, understanding that freedom does not equate to being a liberal might help you out. You will have to excuse me if I don't agree with you by the way, you are free to call me a liberal no matter how wrong you are but seeing I vote right sided you're kinda wrong. Pardon me if feel as though I spent 10 years in the military protecting the freedoms most dismiss, possibly you, maybe due to ignorance. If you feel attacking a persons car or property is correct when they don't hold your opinion then maybe you would be more comfortable living in China or North Korea where freedom doesn't exist. I don't give two turds if you like my opinion, it isn't like your gonna do anything about it, LOL. This forum is just packed with people patting one another on the back and agreeing that anyone that doesn't agree with their concensus should be somehow attacked. Pardon me for comprehending what the very word freedom means, go get a dictionary commie boy!
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His quote would not incite lawless action. The person's sticker on the car would, and quite possibly will. I know for a fact that if I saw something like that, the person would get AT VERY LEAST a good ass ripping.
Why because you somehow feel you have more right to express your opinion than they do theirs, no matter how wrong they are, this is America jack. I'd tell you to go f*** yourself if I had a bumper sticker you didn't like and you decided to "rip" on me, LOL.
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So yeah, this thread is taking off now!

So PT, if someone related to you were gunned down, and the killer got away with it, and displayed it on their vehicle allll the time, and you ran across it, you wouldn't feel enough anger to want to do them or teir vehicle any harm?
I don't see how some idiot thinking that 9-11 was a conspiracy of our government can somehow be equated to someone I know being killed. Yes I did know two people who died during the 9-11 attacks personally. I don't think that bumper sticker is being displayed by Osama Bin Laden though, it is being displayed by some idiot here locally who is obviously anti-government. I am not sure how your question applies to freedom, did the bumper sticker make you feel as though they were somehow responsible for the deaths of those we lost during 9-11? Do you feel as though your opinion or freedoms are more valid than other US citizens?
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I don't see how some idiot thinking that 9-11 was a conspiracy of our government can somehow be equated to someone I know being killed. Yes I did know two people who died during the 9-11 attacks personally. I don't think that bumper sticker is being displayed by Osama Bin Laden though, it is being displayed by some idiot here locally who is obviously anti-government. I am not sure how your question applies to freedom, did the bumper sticker make you feel as though they were somehow responsible for the deaths of those we lost during 9-11? Do you feel as though your opinion or freedoms are more valid than other US citizens?
Why are you calling them an idiot if their opinion is just as valid as yours?
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I don't like their message but if they wish to be a group of dumbasses feel free. Also, understanding that freedom does not equate to being a liberal might help you out. You will have to excuse me if I don't agree with you by the way, you are free to call me a liberal no matter how wrong you are but seeing I vote right sided you're kinda wrong. Pardon me if feel as though I spent 10 years in the military protecting the freedoms most dismiss, possibly you, maybe due to ignorance. If you feel attacking a persons car or property is correct when they don't hold your opinion then maybe you would be more comfortable living in China or North Korea where freedom doesn't exist. I don't give two turds if you like my opinion, it isn't like your gonna do anything about it, LOL. This forum is just packed with people patting one another on the back and agreeing that anyone that doesn't agree with their concensus should be somehow attacked. Pardon me for comprehending what the very word freedom means, go get a dictionary commie boy!
Dance Dance Dance around.. I still dont see where you told me a difference in hate speech inciting dangerous bahavior vs. this doing the same thing? Its ok though, your filler words are enough to tell me you dont know what the hell you're talking about.

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The people on this very thread are showing just how much we are surrounded by idiots. I think what they had on the car was dumb and anti-american but if you are so pathetic that anytime someone displays something that offends you, you need to resort to physical violence that shows how pathetic some of you really are. The idea is freedom, free to be stupid but not free to mangle someones property with a bat or kick off a mirror possibly placing others in harms way while driving down the road. Free to display what you like, just like some people display ant-abortion, others have Calvin peeing on a chevy sign, etc.I doubt any of you actually have the nuts to act out your fantasy warrior type shit anyhow.
No shit. Besides, if they really do believe that, it doesn't mean they don't mourn for the loss.
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And I think you need to Re-Read what I said. Its not considered "Free Speech" if it is "likely to incite imminent lawless action". Brandenburg vs. Ohio?
Practically anything you say falls under that.
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Practically anything you say falls under that.
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i would be SSSOOOO pissed if i was driving down the road and seen that. i think i would have to follow that van and take that sticker off. America has too many cry babies, things need to change, thats for sure

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did the bumper sticker make you feel as though they were somehow responsible for the deaths of those we lost during 9-11?
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Come the fuck on PT. Are you really that un-American?
The biggest un-American thing is this thread is people not wanting others to have the freedom of speech.

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So PT, if someone related to you were gunned down, and the killer got away with it, and displayed it on their vehicle allll the time, and you ran across it, you wouldn't feel enough anger to want to do them or teir vehicle any harm?
That's a murderer proclaiming his victory, and rubbing it in your face... which isn't even on the same fucking plane as stating an idea or opinion. Like was stated above, you wouldn't bash the windows out of one of these P.O.S. Chevy Silverados because it had Calvin pissing on the blue oval, and it's no different. The opinion doesn't hurt anyone, so just GTFO it. This is ESPECIALLY ironic because everyone on here jumps to throw the word "liberal" around, and say all they do is whine. Y'all are the only ones whining in this thread. "Waaaa, they have a bumper sticker on their car, Waaaa, I don't agree with it, I woulda kicked their ass...." .

The second-most un-patriotic thing is this thread is NOT questioning your government.
"A decent and manly examination of the acts of the Government should not only be tolerated, but encouraged."

"To question your government is the most patriotic thing you can do."

-These are both quotes from, you guessed it, Presidents.

Here are a few more, just in case you're open-minded enough to listen to what REAL patriots have to say. The end question is do you want to associate yourself with these patriots, or "patriots" such as John Ashcroft, Cheney, Bush? I already know where history will place them.

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Questioning your government is one thing, insisting that it had a hand in the largest terrorist act perpetrated on this country is another thing all together IMO. One of the serious problems in our society is the fact that people have the attitude that radical opinions are "just as valid" as more mainstream well-thought ideas. It has contributed to the dumbing down of our entire country. All of a sudden every fruitcake crackpot with a conspiracy theory shouldn't be publicly shamed for his idiotic thoughts. The anonymity of the internet has multiplied this effect by many times. All of a sudden if it is in print and smothered with enough bullshit it must be true. These people should be humiliated if at all possible. I'd feel great about driving by this asshole and giving him the finger.

Should they be physically beaten? No Should they be able to display their idiotic ideas without recourse from more sane people. Sure they should. Can they? Of course not! The reason why is because their display is irresponsible. Should I be able to leave my car running at the 7-11 with the keys in it when I go in to get a Slurpee? Sure I should. Why don't I? Hell it wouldn't be responsible! Expecting to have a bumper sticker like that on the back of your car and to at the same time not get the shit kicked out of you is just as irresponsible IMO.
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I don't think that the gov't was solely behind 9/11 but I think that there is more to the story than was originally thought. Watching slow-motion footage of the towers collapsing, you can clearly see implosions on the lower floors as the buildings are collapsing. Also, seriously, where the fuck is the plane that smashed into the pentagon? It sure as hell isn't in the twilight zone.
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I don't think that the gov't was solely behind 9/11 but I think that there is more to the story than was originally thought. Watching slow-motion footage of the towers collapsing, you can clearly see implosions on the lower floors as the buildings are collapsing. Also, seriously, where the fuck is the plane that smashed into the pentagon? It sure as hell isn't in the twilight zone.
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Jesus Jones...another one...do you hang out with Super Coupe/Tamestang and 92 Notch?
No, he's just looking at the UN-ALTERED videotape of the tower going down. There are explosions going down the building several floors ahead of each collapsing floor. It was even stated by a scientist that those were implosions, who later said he was misquoted... his employer... the FBI.

We could all sit and watch and speculate about the Pentagon as well, but the government went to all the surveillance cameras along the way and took the film.
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No, he's just looking at the UN-ALTERED videotape of the tower going down. There are explosions going down the building several floors ahead of each collapsing floor. It was even stated by a scientist that those were implosions, who later said he was misquoted... his employer... the FBI.

We could all sit and watch and speculate about the Pentagon as well, but the government went to all the surveillance cameras along the way and took the film.
Explain to me why the government would want to blow up the World Trade Center.
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Why are you calling them an idiot if their opinion is just as valid as yours?
That is a good question Al, it just seemed to flow easier when I wrote it that way.
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No, he's just looking at the UN-ALTERED videotape of the tower going down. There are explosions going down the building several floors ahead of each collapsing floor. It was even stated by a scientist that those were implosions, who later said he was misquoted... his employer... the FBI.

We could all sit and watch and speculate about the Pentagon as well, but the government went to all the surveillance cameras along the way and took the film.
You're right...it's a government conspiracy...fucking hooligans. When a building collapses the air has to go somewhere...it takes the quickest and easiest route out. The air is being displaced my solid mass and is being forced elsewhere...if you think those were implosions, you need to get a fucking clue....just sayin'.

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Oh trust me, i've noticed. And alot of them are on this board.

But really, that just bothered the hell out of me to see that. And they were caucasian(sp?). I might understand if they were some kind of foreigner.
haha yeah, because if they were some type of foreigner, it was an inside job to them fuckin bastards

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Explain to me why the government would want to blow up the World Trade Center.
Your guess is just as good as mine Al...

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Honestly? Yes, I do.
Well you are free to believe that just as others think that people within our government were responsible for Kennedy's assassination. Does devalue Kennedy's life if Oswald was not the lone assassin? It does not mean the people with the bumper sticker as Casper said "do not mourn the loss", they simply look elsewhere, right or wrong for someone to blame. So you decide to blame someone here in town who didn't fly a plane into the building and most likely does not know Osama personally? in my opinion that is about as logical as the bumper sticker itself, in my opinion of course.
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You're right...it's a government conspiracy...fucking hooligans. When a building collapses the air has to go somewhere...it takes the quickest and easiest route out. The air is being displaced my solid mass and is being forced elsewhere...if you think those were implosions, you need to get a fucking clue....just sayin'.
I'm sorry if you don't understand that an implosion comes from somewhere inside, and that it's not the air, or dust that made anyone think that it was an implosion... it was the explosions seen coming from the inside of the building, hence the implosion of the whole building.
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Explain to me why the government would want to blow up the World Trade Center.
I never said that the gov't set the explosions. I think the plan involved more than the planes though. I mean come on, you hit the upper level of a building with a plane and it takes as long as it did to finally fuck up the infrastructure enough to make the building collapse? Wasn't it in the early 90's when a bomb went off at the BOTTOM of one of the WTC towers, the most likely place to take down an entire building, and it failed?

I don't know if the Gov't would do anything like that. Also, I don't believe that the president knows about everything that goes on within the Gov't. It very well could be an inside job...or at least a job with some inside help. I don't believe that George Bush is responsible though.
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