Lets see what if we gave lets say Mexico part of south Texas and said it's yours
we are pulling back as a peace offer.
Then they use this land to launch attacks on US bases and kidnap troops
then fire missle's into Texas.
We would bomb and shoot them with out any petty.
I think had they waited another 6 months they would have there hands
full because this has Iran all over it.
Shit has no one else noticed the president of Iran right now is in many
photos of the us hostages in the 70's. I was alive then and I can tell you
they rubbed our noses in it big time. The man has said on the record
he would wipe Israel off the map given the chance.
I see this as a proxy war between Iran and Israel the ground its being fought
on is just because there army did not have the nads to stand up to Iran or
Too be honest I think they are just using this as a training ground testing
tactics to be used against us. Israel has already reported that they are
fighting a well trained enemy (better than the normal Arab troops).
So do I blame them for bombing anything that even looks like a target
hell no. These people park there mobil missle launchers by schools then
cry when there kids are killed. They are fighting two battles one with weapons
and one for world support.
Article from the BBC:
Last Updated: Monday, 7 August 2006, 16:00 GMT 17:00 UK
Mid-East conflict: Who stands where
An Israeli tank moves off to go into battle in Lebanon
The fighting between Israel and Hezbollah is part of a wider conflict in the Middle East. The BBC News website's World Affairs correspondent Paul Reynolds examines who stands where and what is at stake for the main parties involved.
France and the UK
Israel sees this war as another part of its long effort to establish itself in the region. It has treaties with Egypt and Jordan and would like one with Lebanon.
However this war has put that prospect off, possibly for many years given the level of casualties in Lebanon. In the meantime, Israel wants Hezbollah removed as a threat since Hezbollah is hostile to Israel's existence.
Israel says the Lebanese government should do this but it is prepared to enforce what it identifies as its own interests anyway.
Israel sees the hand of mainly Iran but also Syria behind Hezbollah, especially in the supply of the thousands of rockets Hezbollah has acquired. One strategic Israeli aim in the war and one shared by the United States is to weaken those links and so weaken the influence of Iran and Syria in Lebanon and the region.
On the other hand, Israel itself will suffer a loss of power and prestige if it cannot show a clear victory.
The government fears that the Israeli onslaught will put all the progress Lebanon has made in recent years at risk and that there could be a return to civil war and strife and a return of Syrian influence.
Lebanon therefore wants an immediate end to the fighting and says that a political agreement should come afterwards, based on Security Council resolution 1559. Passed in September 2004, this called on all militias in Lebanon to be disbanded and the authority of the government extended to the border. Easier said than done, has proved to be the experience.
The Lebanese coalition government was formed after the Cedar Revolution of 2004 which led to the removal of Syrian forces from the country. Hezbollah has two seats in the cabinet even though it opposed the Cedar Revolution. However, Hezbollah feels it can act unilaterally, hence its cross-border raid to capture two Israeli solders. The conflict will help determine its future status in Lebanon.
Hezbollah, the Shia 'Party of God' in Lebanon, is determined to come out of the conflict in a stronger position. It also seeks wider support in Lebanon, which will make it harder for the Lebanese government to bring it under closer control afterwards.
Hezbollah sees itself as in the vanguard of the opposition to the state of Israel, which it regards as a Zionist intrusion into Muslim lands. It was instrumental in making Israel withdraw from southern Lebanon in 2000 and sees in this war a chance for it to diminish Israeli power.
Hezbollah's fate will affect the future influence of Iran and Syria in Lebanon and the region. It is closely supported by Iran, which holds similar views about Israel and which has supplied missiles to its Shia brethren. Syria's interests are more to do with trying to maintain an influence in Lebanon and in supporting an opponent of Israel.
Iran's President Ahmadinejad has said that the "elimination" of Israel is the solution to the Middle East's problems so clearly Iran would like to see Israel (and through Israel, the United States) diminished by the conflict and Hezbollah strengthened.
In that way, its own influence would grow not just in Lebanon but also in the region and among the Middle East's Shia population. Some think that Iran sees in the conflict a welcome distraction from its own nuclear programme. However that issue will return.
Equally, if Hezbollah's power is eventually reduced, so too will Iran's, since Iran is Hezbollah's principal backer.
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