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Exclamation Report: U.S. activates missile defense system

SEOUL, South Korea (Reuters) -- The United States has moved its ground-based interceptor missile defense system from test mode to operational amid concerns over an expected North Korean missile launch, a U.S. defense official said Tuesday.

South Korean Foreign Minister Ban Ki-moon said on Tuesday that North Korea had put its long-range Taepodong-2 missile on a launching pad, but it was unclear if the missile was fully fueled.

Meanwhile, Pyongyang said it would not be bound by a 2002 treaty prohibiting launches of ballistic missiles.

The U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed a Washington Times report that the Pentagon has activated its missile defense system, which has been in the developmental stage for years.

"It's good to be ready," the official said.

U.S. officials say evidence such as satellite pictures suggests Pyongyang may have finished fueling the Taepodong-2 missile, which some experts said could reach as far as Alaska. (Watch what satellite images reveal -- 1:58)

"There's real caution in how to characterize it so as to not be provocative in our own approach," the defense official said of the move to activate the system.

The Pentagon and U.S. State Department have said a North Korean missile launch would be seen as "provocative."

While military officials note the United States has a limited missile defense system, they have so far declined to comment on any details about the capabilities or potential use of the system to intercept a North Korean missile.

Meanwhile, South Korea's Ban called on Pyongyang to scrap test plans while saying the missile was on the pad.

"It is not sure that they have put the fuel in the rockets, but it seems to be sure that they have assembled these missiles in the launching pad," Ban told reporters in Geneva, Switzerland.

According to Japan's Kyodo news agency, North Korea's Foreign Ministry said Tuesday any long-range missile test will not be bound by the Pyongyang Declaration. (Watch how Japan plans to respond to a test launch -- 1:11)

Under that 2002 agreement with Japan, North Korea pledged to uphold all international treaties on nuclear issues, extend a moratorium on ballistic missile launches and resolve issues related to the "lives and security" of Japanese nationals.

Meanwhile, China, the North's closest ally, said it had no details of any test-flight preparations and called for calm.

South Korea's weather agency forecast overcast skies and storms on Tuesday in North Hamgyong province, where North Korea has a launch site, and said this should be the pattern for the rest of the week as a storm front moves through.

Analysts say clouds and storms would make it difficult for North Korea to track a missile once in flight, decreasing the likelihood of a launch.

"You don't want to test launch a missile into a storm," said Peter Beck, a Korea analyst in Seoul for the International Crisis Group.

Reports of test preparations coincide with a stalemate in six-party talks on unwinding Pyongyang's nuclear arms programs.

Some analysts believe that North Korea is piqued world attention has shifted to concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions and angered at a U.S. crackdown that has frozen hard currency income from alleged illegal activities such as money laundering.

Beck said that by raising the prospect of a missile test, the Stalinist state had successfully grabbed global attention and rattled security concerns, but he was not sure if Pyongyang would scrap the launch in the face of pressure or go ahead.

"If they are really playing a finesse game they will back away but ... they are not known for their finesse game," he said.

Alexander Vershbow, U.S. ambassador to Seoul, said Tuesday any work on a potential delivery system, such as a missile, for a nuclear weapon creates a serious security threat.

Proliferation experts have said it is not likely North Korea has the technology to miniaturize a nuclear weapon so that it can be mounted on a missile.

North Korea shocked the world in 1998 when it fired a missile, part of which flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific Ocean. Pyongyang trumpeted that as a satellite launch.

"A missile launch is North Korea's second-biggest 'card' after a nuclear test, and they would have to seriously consider the timing," said Masao Okonogi, a Korea expert at Keio University in Tokyo.

"I think this is a bluff," he said.
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Shoulda killed them all in 50s.
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I'm hoping those little fuckers launch it misfires and flattens Kim wong dongs fricken house...
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Test or not, if their missle leaves the ground, we go to war.
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I'd rather see it land on russian soil and blow up some stuff. Wouldn't that be funny!
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I'd rather see it land on russian soil and blow up some stuff. Wouldn't that be funny!
Kinda like that saying, "If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it was meant to be."
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Let them launch it and feel the wrath of the United States again.

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They are truely cruising for a bruising here! I say if that missle even goes upright it will be a fight from us!

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Let them launch it and feel the wrath of the United States again.
And what was the first wrath?
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And what was the first wrath?
When the good 'ol 4077 went in there and took care of business!!!
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Hopefully if they launch we can shoot it out of the sky and poke a finger into kim jong's eye. Or, they launch it and it lands somewhere it shouldn't and causes a large loss of life. I think that would start a shooting war.

I'd love to see north korea get their asses kicked.
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When the good 'ol 4077 went in there and took care of business!!!
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Test or not, if their missle leaves the ground, we go to war.
This is a test for N Korea,they have launched other test missiles, including one that flew through Japanese airspace in 1998, and no war. It's still a worrisome deal, but just a test launch won't lead to war.

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This is a test for N Korea,they have launched other test missiles, including one that flew through Japanese airspace in 1998, and no war. It's still a worrisome deal, but just a test launch won't lead to war.

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Those tests didn't have the hype like this one. Have you not been staying up with N Korea's blatant threats lately?
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Do't we have stuff that will make "fat man" seem more like a firework on the 4th of July?
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Do't we have stuff that will make "fat man" seem more like a firework on the 4th of July?
We've got whatever you want, but you're gonna have repercussions for fucking up a little piece-of-shit, who-gives-a-fuck country from the rest of the world... justified or not. I think we'll wait until they give us reason.
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This is the first missile they've tested that can hit targets in the US. It's an ICBM capable of carrying a nuclear warhead. He's a whacko with his finger on the button. Ain't gonna happen, it launches and he dies.

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i agree, this probably won't happen. north korea likes stirring shit up every few months when they feel like they aren't getting enough attention.
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So its a they shoot first, then the U.S. returns fire ten-fold and at the same time it gives the rest of the world another reason to be pissed at us?
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You're right, it's probably just another empty threat to make sure that we're still providing them with food and oil. (like we're feeding their population ) The military just takes it all anyway.
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So its a they shoot first, then the U.S. returns fire ten-fold and at the same time it gives the rest of the world another reason to be pissed at us?
As always...
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So its a they shoot first, then the U.S. returns fire ten-fold and at the same time it gives the rest of the world another reason to be pissed at us?
yes, we should wait til they fire it, then let the un pass a resolution allowing us to return fire, of course!
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We should have never gotten rid of the Pershing Missile. This would not even be a mild threat with the capabilty to level the whole country. The INF Treaty still sucks.

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We should have never gotten rid of the Pershing Missle. This would not even be a mild threat with the capabilty to level the whole country. The INF Treaty still sucks.
LOL... like we got rid of anything!
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I'd agree that if he launches the missile we'd go to war with them IF we weren't in Iraq , Afganastan and working our way into Iran . I think we have too many coals in the fire right now to be taken seriously .
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LOL... like we got rid of anything!
Like you have a clue

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Those tests didn't have the hype like this one. Have you not been staying up with N Korea's blatant threats lately?
I'm well aware of the dangers of N. Korea. They are far more dangerous than Iraq or Iran.

If we have to use our anti-missile defense, it will be a make or break event for the US in some ways. If we down the test missile,the rest of the world will view us as heroes, if we miss, we're bozos.

It will be interesting to see if Kim Jong has the balls to try it.

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That missile will be at the bottom of the ocean if it ever makes it over the Pacific. I've got a feeling that our missile defense system can do more than what we let on.
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Yep. We'll let lose with our armed satellites!

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I just hope they launch it. It will be good fun. I can't take the Kim Dong Il seriously since I saw Team America:World Police
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I kinda want them to launch it also so we can flex on them.

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Yep. We'll let lose with our armed satellites!

Oops... I wasn't supposed to say anything, was I?
Come on, laser beams only exist in science fiction movies. Since the military has admitted to the HELLADS system I'm guessing we've probably got something a little more powerful floating around the solar system. How long were the SR-71 and U2 in use before we admitted to them?

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Come on, laser beams only exist in science fiction movies. Since the military has admitted to the HELLADS system I'm guessing we've probably got something a little more powerful floating around the solar system. How long were the SR-71 and U2 in use before we admitted to them?
Almost a decade...
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i agree, this probably won't happen. north korea likes stirring shit up every few months when they feel like they aren't getting enough attention.
This is right on the button. Since Bush came to office, he cut off the tribute to North Korea for not being bad. Under Clinton, the US had been giving NK money and food to not build a nuke. When Bush found out that NK was still working on it, he pulled the money.

Now NK wants to negoiate with the US only, but Bush said that it is mainly the problem of Russia, China, South Korea and Japan. NK knows that they cant get money from them and wants bi-lateral talks with just the US.
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This is a fucked up ordeal. It also bothers me much more than the bullshit that's going on in the middle east.
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Come on, laser beams only exist in science fiction movies. Since the military has admitted to the HELLADS system I'm guessing we've probably got something a little more powerful floating around the solar system. How long were the SR-71 and U2 in use before we admitted to them?
I wanna see the stuff they don't tell us about.

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I wanna see the stuff they don't tell us about.
Spend a few days in Tonopah, Nevada and you'll at least hear some of it.
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Let them launch it and feel the wrath of the United States again.
What you mean let bush LEad us to great victory when our troops are already spread thin becasue of iraq..I really dont think we could do two wars at once..And no one has the balls to say fuck you and bomb the place.Back then we woul just tear their shit all to hell,Now we have to be carefull as not to hit any churchs,schools,homes,plants,animals,birds,ect...T he war in iraq could have been over two yrs ago if we would just send a missle or bomb into ANY building that we were fired upon from,or from any building that houses the enemy or ammo..Back then the world knew not to fuck with us because we would level their country just like we did with hiro..Now they know we wont do that..Even though they would havee no problem bombing or schools,churchs,ect..we cant do it to them..gotta be PC ya know...
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