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Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe

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"There is no meaningful correlation between CO2 levels and Earth's temperature over this [geologic] time frame. In fact, when CO2 levels were over ten times higher than they are now, about 450 million years ago, the planet was in the depths of the absolute coldest period in the last half billion years."
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Well don't go bringing FACTS into this discsussion, this is all about assumptions and fear tactics...
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Yeah but Gore invented the internet......
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Fuck the scientists.

Gore invented global warming.
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Just about the time Gore got some of his credibility back, you guys go and attack him. How shameful! LOL

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#1 cause of global warming..........the sun!
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#1 cause of global warming..........the sun!
no way!

you mean it's not humans?

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I personally think Steve Nash is responsible for global warming ehh.
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If you want to read all about the bullshit topic of global warming, go over to www.junkscience.com

We haven't even been tracking global temperature for a century and a half. We started in the 1880s. It has been steadily increasing since that time. To the tune of an incredible 1 degree C!

Mostly the whole idea is for the uneducated masses.
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Just another reason I'm glad Bush won instead . Could you imagine the shit we'd be in right now if Gore had been president during 9/11 ?


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Humans are slowly doing what any number of natural disasters could do.
A volcano, earthquake, meteor....any one of those things can do 100x the amount in 20 minutes what we've done over the past 200 years.
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If you want to read all about the bullshit topic of global warming, go over to www.junkscience.com

We haven't even been tracking global temperature for a century and a half. We started in the 1880s. It has been steadily increasing since that time. To the tune of an incredible 1 degree C!

Mostly the whole idea is for the uneducated masses.

They estimate the sun will get 10% warmer every million or billion years (can't remember which) anyway so they are right the earth will most likely get much warmer as time goes on till the sun dies.
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I saw "An inconvenient Truth" and viewed for what it is, as one man's opinion, not proven science. I don't believe many parts of what Gore said.

But then again, cutting back pollution won't cause any real harm, I'm sure. And during the last round of big pollution cuts (73-85), it forced industry to come with technologies that benefitted us all (fuel injection, lighter materials, 5 & 6 speed transmissions, etc.).

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I saw "An inconvenient Truth" and viewed for what it is, as one man's opinion, not proven science. I don't believe many parts of what Gore said.

But then again, cutting back pollution won't cause any real harm, I'm sure. And during the last round of big pollution cuts (73-85), it forced industry to come with technologies that benefitted us all (fuel injection, lighter materials, 5 & 6 speed transmissions, etc.).

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I'll agree with you about it being good but it shouldn't be done to the point that it damages the economy. And it sure as hell shouldn't be done to the point where it damages our economy but no one else's (Kyoto). If anyone needs to get their ass in gear when it comes to pollution, it is the third world.
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Yes, get the fucking Chinese to do their part.
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Yes, get the fucking Chinese to do their part.
None of these god damned hippies want to talk about that. They just want to say "The U.S. pollutes more than anyone" over and over and over. It is this same ignorant shit that has made gas cost $3 a gallon. You can't build a god damn refinery because of these morons and you can't drill anywhere then when the price of gas goes through the fucking roof they blame the oil companies.
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I saw "An inconvenient Truth" and viewed for what it is, as one man's opinion, not proven science. I don't believe many parts of what Gore said.

But then again, cutting back pollution won't cause any real harm, I'm sure. And during the last round of big pollution cuts (73-85), it forced industry to come with technologies that benefitted us all (fuel injection, lighter materials, 5 & 6 speed transmissions, etc.).

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I agree pollution is bad and should be reduced when possible, but CO2 isn't pollution.
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I agree pollution is bad and should be reduced when possible, but CO2 isn't pollution.
Exactly.

Curtail the CO2 levels to pre 1900 and imagine what would happen to the crop yields in a world already struggling to feed itself. And also to agricultural feedstocks used for ethanol....
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Exactly.

Curtail the CO2 levels to pre 1900 and imagine what would happen to the crop yields in a world already struggling to feed itself. And also to agricultural feedstocks used for ethanol....
A lot of greenhouse users actually try to increase CO2 content to make plants grow better. No one wants to talk about that shit though. www.junkscience.com has a pretty good article on the whole process and how a massive increase in CO2 would barely affect the climate as a whole. Mostly because the retention of heat has to do with water and not CO2.
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Yes, get the fucking Chinese to do their part.

Too many people with their hands in that booming economy. Everybody wants a slice of the pie now. China is exploding and will only get worse exponentially every year.

Imagine if all those changa changs bought SUV's and big trucks.....we'll definitely be in for a WWIII resource war.



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A lot of greenhouse users actually try to increase CO2 content to make plants grow better. No one wants to talk about that shit though. www.junkscience.com has a pretty good article on the whole process and how a massive increase in CO2 would barely affect the climate as a whole. Mostly because the retention of heat has to do with water and not CO2.
another good site is www.co2science.org

I think the sun only accounts for 10% or less of the earth's total heat budget.
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more info refuting man causing global warming

http://www.innovations-report.com/ht...ort-60638.html

global temp through history http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html


Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect. Interestingly, many "facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
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I don't care for what Gore says and what a few scientists say. Too many scientists have so many different views on global warming. I can understand arguments for both sides though. When I was in college I took about 3 weather and geoscience classes that covered this issue pretty well. They were just classes I took for fun as an elective. In a nut shell, what all of the classes said is that the Earth goes through different cooling and heating cycles and has for years. Alaska and the North Pole region were once tropical. They found tropical plant fossils in those areas. Anyway, the Earth goes through these cycles and supposedly now we are still coming off of a cool/ ice age cycle. Huge to us but a small amount in time in comparison to the Earth. They do say we are approaching a heating cycle but we are adding to it. We are affecting the rate at which this happens supposedly. They went into ice core samples, atmospheric stuff and what not. I am open minded but from what I learned in those classes it does seem possible. As for Gore, I really don't care what some politician says since there is usually some hidden agenda behind it.
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