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Reagan eulogy i ran across

This is a great read. I think Ronaldus Maximus was the greatest President we have known....one of the greatest men of our generation. Hell, so much so that I named my son after him. Enjoy:



We have lost a great president, a great American, and a great man, and I have lost a dear friend.

In his lifetime, Ronald Reagan was such a cheerful and invigorating presence that it was easy to forget what daunting historic tasks he set himself. He sought to mend AmericaÍs wounded spirit, to restore the strength of the free world, and to free the slaves of communism. These were causes hard to accomplish and heavy with risk, yet they were pursued with almost a lightness of spirit, for Ronald Reagan also embodied another great cause, what Arnold Bennett once called "the great cause of cheering us all up". His policies had a freshness and optimism that won converts from every class and every nation, and ultimately, from the very heart of the "evil empire."

Yet his humour often had a purpose beyond humour. In the terrible hours after the attempt on his life, his easy jokes gave reassurance to an anxious world. They were evidence that in the aftermath of terror and in the midst of hysteria one great heart at least remained sane and jocular. They were truly grace under pressure. And perhaps they signified grace of a deeper kind. Ronnie himself certainly believed that he had been given back his life for a purpose. As he told a priest after his recovery, "Whatever time IÍve got left now belongs to the big fella upstairs." And surely, it is hard to deny that Ronald ReaganÍs life was providential when we look at what he achieved in the eight years that followed.

Others prophesied the decline of the West. He inspired America and its allies with renewed faith in their mission of freedom.

Others saw only limits to growth. He transformed a stagnant economy into an engine of opportunity.

Others hoped, at best, for an uneasy cohabitation with the Soviet Union. He won the Cold War, not only without firing a shot, but also by inviting enemies out of their fortress and turning them into friends.

I cannot imagine how any diplomat or any dramatist could improve on his words to Mikhail Gorbachev at the Geneva summit. "Let me tell you why it is we distrust you." Those words are candid and tough, and they cannot have been easy to hear. But they are also a clear invitation to a new beginning and a new relationship that would be rooted in trust.

We live today in the world that Ronald Reagan began to reshape with those words. It is a very different world, with different challenges and new dangers. All in all, however, it is one of greater freedom and prosperity, one more hopeful than the world he inherited on becoming president.

As Prime Minister, I worked closely with Ronald Reagan for eight of the most important years of all our lives. We talked regularly, both before and after his presidency, and IÍve had time and cause to reflect on what made him a great president.

Ronald Reagan knew his own mind. He had firm principles and, I believe, right ones. He expounded them clearly. He acted upon them decisively. When the world threw problems at the White House, he was not baffled or disorientated or overwhelmed.

He knew almost instinctively what to do.

When his aides were preparing option papers for his decision, they were able to cut out entire rafts of proposals that they knew the old man would never wear. When his allies came under Soviet or domestic pressure, they could look confidently to Washington for firm leadership, and when his enemies tested American resolve, they soon discovered that his resolve was firm and unyielding.

Yet his ideas, so clear, were never simplistic. He saw the many sides of truth. Yes, he warned that the Soviet Union had an insatiable drive for military power and territorial expansion, but he also sensed that it was being eaten away by systemic failures impossible to reform. Yes, he did not shrink from denouncing MoscowÍs evil empire, but he realized that a man of good will might nonetheless emerge from within its dark corridors.

So the president resisted Soviet expansion and pressed down on Soviet weakness at every point until the day came when communism began to collapse beneath the combined weight of those pressures and its own failures. And when a man of good will did emerge from the ruins, President Reagan stepped forward to shake his hand and to offer sincere cooperation.

Nothing was more typical of Ronald Reagan than that large-hearted magnanimity, and nothing was more American.

Therein lies perhaps the final explanation of his achievements. Ronald Reagan carried the American people with him in his great endeavours because there was perfect sympathy between them. He and they loved America and what it stands for: freedom and opportunity for ordinary people.

As an actor in HollywoodÍs golden age, he helped to make the American dream live for millions all over the globe. His own life was a fulfilment of that dream. He never succumbed to the embarrassment some people feel about an honest expression of love of country. He was able to say "God bless America" with equal fervour in public and in private. And so he was able to call confidently upon his fellow countrymen to make sacrifices for America and to make sacrifices for those who look to America for hope and rescue.

With the lever of American patriotism, he lifted up the world. And so today, the world - in Prague, in Budapest, in Warsaw and Sofia, in Bucharest, in Kiev, and in Moscow itself, the world mourns the passing of the great liberator and echoes his prayer: God bless America.

Ronald ReaganÍs life was rich not only in public achievement, but also in private happiness. Indeed, his public achievements were rooted in his private happiness.

The great turning point of his life was his meeting and marriage with Nancy. On that, we have the plain testimony of a loving and grateful husband. "Nancy came along and saved my soul."

We share her grief today, but we also share her pride and the grief and pride of RonnieÍs children. For the final years of his life, RonnieÍs mind was clouded by illness. That cloud has now lifted. He is himself again, more himself than at any time on this Earth, for we may be sure that the Big Fellow upstairs never forgets those who remember him. And as the last journey of this faithful pilgrim took him beyond the sunset, and as heavenÍs morning broke, I like to think, in the words of Bunyan, that "all the trumpets sounded on the other side."

We here still move in twilight, but we have one beacon to guide us that Ronald Reagan never had. We have his example. Let us give thanks today for a life that achieved so much for all of GodÍs children.

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I typed in greatest President to see if there was a general consensus and found this article:

Greatest U.S. President? Public Names Reagan, Clinton, Lincoln
Most Americans would not want their child to grow up to be president


by Joseph Carroll

A recent Gallup Poll finds Americans rating Ronald Reagan as the greatest president in history, followed by Bill Clinton, Abraham Lincoln, Franklin Roosevelt, and John F. Kennedy. Republicans and Democrats differ sharply in their views of the greatest president, with Republicans most often mentioning Reagan and Democrats most often mentioning Clinton. When asked to choose the greater president of the two, Americans pick Lincoln by a wide margin over George Washington. Most Americans say they would not want their child to grow up to become president someday.
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To me it says a lot that the majority of Democrats think Clinton was the greatest President in history. He did more to hurt the Democratic party then anyone ever has.

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To me it says a lot that the majority of Democrats think Clinton was the greatest President in history. He did more to hurt the Democratic party then anyone ever has.
No that would be Jimmy Carter he really screwed up the US during his tenure. Clinton did alright he was just trying to hump everything that could breath.
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Clinton did alright he was just trying to hump everything that could breath.
Not exactly the man I want in the whitehouse, but he would be fun to go hang out at a bar with.
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Not exactly the man I want in the whitehouse, but he would be fun to go hang out at a bar with.
I would better that by choosing him and Ron White at a bar, LOL.
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I would better that by choosing him and Ron White at a bar, LOL.
Now that would be a party!
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No that would be Jimmy Carter he really screwed up the US during his tenure. Clinton did alright he was just trying to hump everything that could breath.
You and I have different opinions about hurting the party. Clinton caused me to rethink my liberal views and since voting for him in '92, I have voted Republican. I know alot of other recovering liberals like myself, who saw the light by the way Clinton got a free pass for being one corrupt SOB. Carter did not turn me into a conservative Republican.

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You and I have different opinions about hurting the party. Clinton caused me to rethink my liberal views and since voting for him in '92, I have voted Republican. I know alot of other recovering liberals like myself, who saw the light by the way Clinton got a free pass for being one corrupt SOB. Carter did not turn me into a conservative Republican.
There have been scandals since Washington though:

Aaron Burr, the vice-president of the United States, killed Hamilton in a duel.

Lincolns Wife was accused of treason in the War between the States

Mudslingers accused Andrew Jackson of adultery in 1828

Harding had his own personal bootlegger

Kennedy was in bed with the mob and Ms. Monroe

Reagan had Iran-Contra where missles were sold from our country to that of a
Nation that supported terrorism.

Clinton had Monica and many people mysteriously killing themselves, downsized the military, dropped the ball in Somolia, White Water,etc.

GW has had Enron and While a member of the board at Harken Energy (in 1990), Bush sold $848,560 in stock a few months before the company reported a $23 million loss." — N.Y. Daily News, 7/9/02,

So opinions vary
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...GW has had Enron... So opinions vary
Damn, I forgot how freaking liberal you are. Do you mean the Enron that collapsed for all the felonies committed by the execs during Clinton's term? Surely GW is not to blame for that. LOL!

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Damn, I forgot how freaking liberal you are. Do you mean the Enron that collapsed for all the felonies committed by the execs during Clinton's term? Surely GW is not to blame for that. LOL!

Nope but people tried to tie him in with the big players on the Republican end.
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Nope but people tried to tie him in with the big players on the Republican end.
WTF? Do you or do you not believe that Enron happened during your hero's presidency or not?

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Mr Reagan was a good man and I was proud to serve under him in the
Military. The success you saw in the first gulf war was the Military he built.
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WTF? Do you or do you not believe that Enron happened during your hero's presidency or not?

Maybe you missed the part where Enron contributed greatly to the Bush election fund. Maybe you were somewhere else when the Enron scandal broke and the media was trying to tie Bush's administration to it. I am not sure what you were doing back in 2002 when this was potential hazard to Bush because Cheney and other White House personnel had been in contact with Enron before and during their collapse. I didn't say he was found guilty but people still associate him to Enron because it was a scandal he was tied to at a distance that happened during his tenure. I never said he was guilty just jaded by it.
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