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The Hurricane

I am not blaming Bush for this natural disaster but I am wondering what the heck the government is doing. I read that a National Guard Soldier was wounded at the Dome and on the news last night heard that someone was shooting at a rescue helicopter evacuating a hospital. I don't feel the Federal Governemt has any excuse for not being prepared for such events given last years Hurricane Season, obviously no one payed much attention and made a plan based off past knowledge. So who is to be held accountable for the fed dropping the ball on this one. I think it is horrible that so many innocent people are being treated this way in our country. I do recognize that the criminal element is what we are hearing the most about but I am concerned about the kids, elderly and people who just make ends meet.

I did find this article and it didn't look good for our Government.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1001051313

This is the Mayor of New Orleans take on what is happening.

" NEW ORLEANS (Sept. 2) - A day before President Bush headed to the hurricane-ravaged South, Mayor Ray Nagin lashed out at federal officials, telling a local radio station "they don't have a clue what's going on down here."

Federal officials expressed sympathy but quickly defended themselves, saying they, too, were overwhelmed by the catastrophe that hit the Gulf Coast region on Monday.

Nagin's interview Thursday night on WWL radio came as President Bush planned to visit Gulf Coast communities battered by Hurricane Katrina, a visit aimed at alleviating criticism that he engineered a too-little, too-late response.

Bush viewed the damage while flying over the region Wednesday en route to Washington after cutting short his Texas vacation by two days.

"They flew down here one time two days after the doggone event was over with TV cameras, AP reporters, all kind of goddamn -- excuse my French everybody in America, but I am pissed," Nagin said.

Nagin said he told Bush in a recent conversation that "we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice ... I have been all around this city and that I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we are outmanned in just about every respect." "

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Youre right not enough was done to prepare. That is hindsight though. I think reasonible actions should have worked until all hell broke loose. Not to mention the outrageous number of ppl that stayed there like idiots, or stubborn assholes. Then calculate that no one thought the levee would break.......
IMO you are monday morning QB'in this to death. Mistakes were made, sure.....
It's still a fucking disaster! You can't just plan for the worst in hundreds of years, and expect a army of miracle workers to show up with generators, microwaves, TV dinners , and couches.

I think the deal is FEMA reacted fast enough, maybe with not enough though due to all that stayed. Then SHTF, and they couldn't coordinate and secure anything since everyone on the ground was acting like animals. Extending the suffering to where we are now.
Now everyone is blaming them, as though ANY agency in the WORLD could have predicted or preparded for such a disaster of this magnitude.
Its hard to blame ppl that largely are just victims, but their actions (staying, and creating anarchy) are largely the wild cards that no one planned on.
If they had sent the 30K guardsmen early, the levee didn't break, and planet of the apes didn't break out, the black community would probably just accuse them of showing excessive force during a disaster forceing ppl to leave. You just can't help ppl enough that aren't willing to help themselves.
I don't think anyone knew some 200,000 would stay behind in some way shape or form
Ill be praying for the vast majority that just need help.
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I'm simply going to quote myself from another thread:
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Watching a webcast from cnn.com, the reporter was talking to some military official who was talking about sand bagging the levee breaks. The reporter kept questioning, "What is taking you guys so long?" Another dumbass that doesn't understand how 15,000lbs of sand in appropriate bags are not just kept in some warehouse. Some people are clueless as to what it takes to put rescue/recovery into action.
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Youre right not enough was done to prepare. That is hindsight though. I think reasonible actions should have worked until all hell broke loose. Not to mention the outrageous number of ppl that stayed there like idiots, or stubborn assholes. Then calculate that no one thought the levee would break.......
IMO you are monday morning QB'in this to death. Mistakes were made, sure.....
It's still a fucking disaster! You can't just plan for the worst in hundreds of years, and expect a army of miracle workers to show up with generators, microwaves, TV dinners , and couches.

I think the deal is FEMA reacted fast enough, maybe with not enough though due to all that stayed. Then SHTF, and they couldn't coordinate and secure anything since everyone on the ground was acting like animals. Extending the suffering to where we are now.
Now everyone is blaming them, as though ANY agency in the WORLD could have predicted or preparded for such a disaster of this magnitude.
Its hard to blame ppl that largely are just victims, but their actions (staying, and creating anarchy) are largely the wild cards that no one planned on.
If they had sent the 30K guardsmen early, the levee didn't break, and planet of the apes didn't break out, the black community would probably just accuse them of showing excessive force during a disaster forceing ppl to leave. You just can't help ppl enough that aren't willing to help themselves.
I don't think anyone knew some 200,000 would stay behind in some way shape or form
Ill be praying for the vast majority that just need help.
I'll just touch on your first point and call BS. How is it that the if federal money to fix levees was requested this type of disaster is something we didn't expect. My Geology Professor stated this could easily happen in New Orleans when I was in college back around 1999. Read below and try not to blame those who didn't have the resources to leave or anywhere to go. Yes it is a disaster what the problem is, 5 days has passed and Washington DC has not reacted appropriatley.

"In early 2004, as the cost of the conflict in Iraq soared, President Bush proposed spending less than 20 percent of what the Corps said was needed for Lake Pontchartrain, according to a Feb. 16, 2004, article, in New Orleans CityBusiness.

On June 8, 2004, Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, Louisiana; told the Times-Picayune: "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq, and I suppose that's the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can't be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us."

Also that June, with the 2004 hurricane season starting, the Corps' project manager Al Naomi went before a local agency, the East Jefferson Levee Authority, and essentially begged for $2 million for urgent work that Washington was now unable to pay for. From the June 18, 2004 Times-Picayune:"
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A) I figured ProTrash would turn this post into a Bush bash. Heck, he can hardly make a post without mentioning Bush.

B) What was done with all the money that NewO had before the 20% cut during the clinton years? Their leeve's were still at stage 3. The federal government can hand out all the money for any project, but if the locals were not spending it appropriately or effeciently, then why hand out extra money. Yet before you ProTrash know any details of this, your already pointing the finger. How typical....

C) The governor should have called a manditory evacuation of the city before hand

D) Where was the local police plan? it appears if they didnt have one
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We live in a instant gratification world. E-mails, over-night shipping, 16hour work days, fast food, 24hr Wal-Mart, ect, ect....No one give a shit about anything until something like this actually happens then all of a sudden hind sight becomes crystal clear. Why didn't they do this, why didn't they do that? We are running into the exact opposite scenario in the middle east.....(pro-active vs. re-active)

Besides the entire country knew what could potentially happen 3-days before it hit. There were busses, trains, and cars going any direction you want from New Orleans up until just a few hours before it hit. They had plenty of time to get the hell out of there if they wanted to. How much more do they want and who fault is it? The federal government is going to take some time to get rolling. The local boys should've been on top of this, but instead they fucked it up big time and now they are trying to point fingers.
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We live in a instant gratification world. E-mails, over-night shipping, 16hour work days, fast food, 24hr Wal-Mart, ect, ect....No one give a shit about anything until something like this actually happens then all of a sudden hind sight becomes crystal clear. Why didn't they do this, why didn't they do that? We are running into the exact opposite scenario in the middle east.....(pro-active vs. re-active)

Besides the entire country knew what could potentially happen 3-days before it hit. There were busses, trains, and cars going any direction you want from New Orleans up until just a few hours before it hit. They had plenty of time to get the hell out of there if they wanted to. How much more do they want and who fault is it? The federal government is going to take some time to get rolling. The local boys should've been on top of this, but instead they fucked it up big time and now they are trying to point fingers.

Yeah I figured you'd stick to your guns and prove just how ignorant you are of the assets available after a storm of that magnitude hits and the city goes under water. Face it we pay federal taxes so FEMA and other organizations can take care of this country. I pay a lot in taxes, 21% of my gas cost is gas, my pay check gets hit every month for over $650 in fed tax and medicare. So yes I do think that the federal government screwed this up. The people of New Orleans give their hard earned tax dollars so they have the National Government behind them when all hell breaks loose. That has not happened in a manner that is acceptable. People are loosing their lifes 5 days after the fact. Explain that one hero.
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There is blame to be assigned and lots of people can be partially blamed:

1. The people who stayed there. They were told to evacuate and didn't. Granted some of them couldn't. The elderly and handicapped obviously.

2. The mayor of New Orleans. Why wasn't this clown prepared?? He IS the local authority and should have had a plan!! Everyone in that town has known it was only a matter of time before this happened. Evacuation should have been mandatory. He should have asked the governor to call in the guard to evac the people who couldn't get out. There should have been buses available for the people who couldn't get themselves out!!

3. FEMA. Not enough of and too slow of a response. They should have had buses ready to roll on SATURDAY of last week. Its insane that this is the kind of planning we are getting for our tax dollars. The director of FEMA is going to get fired after this is over, mark my words.

4. Army Corp of Engineers. I mean REALLY...what engineer would design pump systems that don't have a back up power source. Whole city flooded...pumps can't operate because we have no electricity. Doesn't take a fucking genius to figure out that in the event of a massive hurricane you won't have power for days. I call this one un-FUCKING-believable myself.

5. The president - IMO he should have ordered regular army into the city to restore order. This national guard in 48 hours is a lot of crap.
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Yeah I figured you'd stick to your guns and prove just how ignorant you are of the assets available after a storm of that magnitude hits and the city goes under water. Face it we pay federal taxes so FEMA and other organizations can take care of this country. I pay a lot in taxes, 21% of my gas cost is gas, my pay check gets hit every month for over $650 in fed tax and medicare. So yes I do think that the federal government screwed this up. The people of New Orleans give their hard earned tax dollars so they have the National Government behind them when all hell breaks loose. That has not happened in a manner that is acceptable. People are loosing their lifes 5 days after the fact. Explain that one hero.
I'm just going to copy/paste my post from earlier because I'm not gonna start blaming the big G for everything that happens. We could sit here all day and go over the $$$, but I don't think it really matters now.... People die everyday and it's really sad. Shit like this happens and no matter how much money we give FEMA, George Bush, Bill Clinton, whoever, people will take advantage of the situation and things won't get done fast enough for everyone.


I think the ones down there going crazy were wanting this shit to happen. They see themselves as being dumped on all their life and this is finally their way of "getting what they deserve..." I've been to NO a few times for work and it's a nice enough place, but overloaded with riff-raff. People are animals and I don't think there was anything anyone could/can do. Even if they had evacuated the entire city with house to house searches for weeks before this thing hit, you would have still had mass rioting when the police left for more than 12 hours. It sucks for the decent folks.
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Yeah I figured you'd stick to your guns and prove just how ignorant you are of the assets available after a storm of that magnitude hits and the city goes under water. Face it we pay federal taxes so FEMA and other organizations can take care of this country. I pay a lot in taxes, 21% of my gas cost is gas, my pay check gets hit every month for over $650 in fed tax and medicare. So yes I do think that the federal government screwed this up. The people of New Orleans give their hard earned tax dollars so they have the National Government behind them when all hell breaks loose. That has not happened in a manner that is acceptable. People are loosing their lifes 5 days after the fact. Explain that one hero.
yea, and we pay the federal government to handle our social security and just look at it! Its going down hill! Take a look at medicare? then it needed reform. Rule of thumb, the more things the federal government is out of, the better off we are

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Here is a cut and paste of one of my posts from another Bush hating thread blaming him for the hurricane:


The federal government should have been the 3rd level of response. The response by the city should have been for the first day or two, the state for the following two days or so, and then the federal response should have shown up. Guess what, everything broke down upon the city level, the state was never able to recover and then the federal response took longer to get set up since there was no response in place.

The people who give Bush blame instead of credit for fixing the horrible response have no idea how large the magnitude of this crisis was from a logistics viewpoint. I was in the FW EOC (Emergency Operations Center) about 5 minutes after the tornado hit and was there for the next 14 hours. That was barely comparable to this tragedy and it took us a full day to get it running smoothly. We had officers on 12 hour shifts within about 4 hours, and DPS troopers were in the city offering help within 24 hours. The feds just reimbursed us for the overtime after the disaster was declared.

Maybe a little knowledge in the area before you speak up would benefit a few of these Monday morning quarterbacks.

The federal government is not here to fix every problem, contrary to liberal Democratic opinion.

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Nothing really broke down. It was simply overwhelming to everyone involved. NO didn't have the personnel or resources to handle it. LA didn't have the personnel to handle it. At the moment the Federal government doesn't have the resources or personnel to handle it.

That is why other cities are expending personnel and resources to handle it.

From NO->Federal government, once Katrina passed through south Florida and headed back into the gulf with a turn to the north, everything should have been mobilized. Everybody sat back and decided to wait.

If Dallas had a set of tornados come through it with the magnitude of Katrina (in terms of destruction) Dallas couldn't handle it. Same with Fort Worth. Same with Houston. Same with San Antonio.

It would be insane to think any government, local, state or federal could be 100% prepared for what Katrina brought. It wouldn't make sense in terms of resources.

Just like I can guarantee my clients 99.5% uptime on their servers, that last .5% would cost them 10X their current contracts.

You plan for the worst to the extent it makes sense and hope for the best. In this case everyone hoped for the best and it became the worst.
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Nothing really broke down. It was simply overwhelming to everyone involved. NO didn't have the personnel or resources to handle it. LA didn't have the personnel to handle it. At the moment the Federal government doesn't have the resources or personnel to handle it.

That is why other cities are expending personnel and resources to handle it.

From NO->Federal government, once Katrina passed through south Florida and headed back into the gulf with a turn to the north, everything should have been mobilized. Everybody sat back and decided to wait.

If Dallas had a set of tornados come through it with the magnitude of Katrina (in terms of destruction) Dallas couldn't handle it. Same with Fort Worth. Same with Houston. Same with San Antonio.

It would be insane to think any government, local, state or federal could be 100% prepared for what Katrina brought. It wouldn't make sense in terms of resources.

Just like I can guarantee my clients 99.5% uptime on their servers, that last .5% would cost them 10X their current contracts.

You plan for the worst to the extent it makes sense and hope for the best. In this case everyone hoped for the best and it became the worst.
Well, when I saw NO police officers driving by people who were without food, water, and shelter and not stop, give info, direction, or assistance, I saw a city that broke down. Why would a police officer drive through an area with thousands of people who need help and not help? He should have at least told them about what to expect, maybe even taken a critically injured person or two to a doctor or facility with shelter. There is no reason to be driving through like a freaking tourist.

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Well, when I saw NO police officers driving by people who were without food, water, and shelter and not stop, give info, direction, or assistance, I saw a city that broke down. Why would a police officer drive through an area with thousands of people who need help and not help? He should have at least told them about what to expect, maybe even taken a critically injured person or two to a doctor or facility with shelter. There is no reason to be driving through like a freaking tourist.

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Well, when I saw NO police officers driving by people who were without food, water, and shelter and not stop, give info, direction, or assistance, I saw a city that broke down. Why would a police officer drive through an area with thousands of people who need help and not help? He should have at least told them about what to expect, maybe even taken a critically injured person or two to a doctor or facility with shelter. There is no reason to be driving through like a freaking tourist.
Have you ever been in the middle of a situation like that?

I can tell you I know for a fact that police officers in Mississippi have been laying down their badges and quitting.

Unless you were right there and not watching some newcast, you cannot say without any confidence what was really happening.

Like I said, it is very overwhelming. Not to take anything away from the tradegy of 9/11, but even 9/11 doesn't compare in magnitude.
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Have you ever been in the middle of a situation like that?

I can tell you I know for a fact that police officers in Mississippi have been laying down their badges and quitting.

Unless you were right there and not watching some newcast, you cannot say without any confidence what was really happening.

Like I said, it is very overwhelming. Not to take anything away from the tradegy of 9/11, but even 9/11 doesn't compare in magnitude.
I have been in a situation where there was no communications, lots of injured people who needed help, and I was the supervisor of the EOC. So yeah I have been in a situation like that. It wasn't hurricane Katrina for sure, but it was pretty damn bad.

I am privy to more intel about what was going on in Louisiana and Mississippi than you possibly could have been, unless small town city councilmen in small counties get better briefings than they do in small towns in Tarrant County. Sorry for the sarcasm, but I couldn't resist.

Have you ever been in a situation like that?

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I have been in a situation where there was no communications, lots of injured people who needed help, and I was the supervisor of the EOC. So yeah I have been in a situation like that. It wasn't hurricane Katrina for sure, but it was pretty damn bad.

I am privy to more intel about what was going on in Louisiana and Mississippi than you possibly could have been, unless small town city councilmen in small counties get better briefings than they do in small towns in Tarrant County. Sorry for the sarcasm, but I couldn't resist.

Have you ever been in a situation like that?
How many people were you talking about? How long were they displaced?

And no 90% of my information has nothing to do with Texas government. It is at the federal level. And it has nothing to do with local politics.

But, hey, live in your little dream world Notch, you seem to be comfortable with it.
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How many people were you talking about? How long were they displaced?

And no 90% of my information has nothing to do with Texas government. It is at the federal level. And it has nothing to do with local politics.

But, hey, live in your little dream world Notch, you seem to be comfortable with it.
Is it possible that someone could have more info on a topic than you?

You would mock me if I tried to give you schooling on computer software, but when you speak of things you have less knowledge then me I am in a dream world. I still have no idea why you must be smarter than everyone else. It is very funny though.

If you don't know about the tornado that went through FW, it just makes you look that much more ignorant.

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Is it possible that someone could have more info on a topic than you?

You would mock me if I tried to give you schooling on computer software, but when you speak of things you have less knowledge then me I am in a dream world. I still have no idea why you must be smarter than everyone else. It is very funny though.

If you don't know about the tornado that went through FW, it just makes you look that much more ignorant.
Sure. Not saying there isn't. The tornado that ripped through FW wasn't close to the devastation the occurred across the Gulf Coast.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you. I know what is going on directly from the people that are providing the relief from a national and local level. Directly from the agencies providing it. Some of which I can release, some of which I cannot. I deal with DHS on a daily basis (you know the organization that contains FEMA?)

You can continue to bitch about response all you want. It just shows me you are arm-chair quarterbacking and getting the bulk of your information not from your job but from KILF, Fox News and Fort Worth Star Telegram.

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I deal with DHS on a daily basis (you know the organization that contains FEMA?)
Yeah..it's beginning to show. It kept em pretty "contained" last week didn't it?
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Yeah..it's beginning to show. It kept em pretty "contained" last week didn't it?
I think it goes from utter choas last week to organized choas this week.

I know in Collin County the county went from 0 support for refugees to housing over 2000 in about 2 days. A vacant Walmart was outfitted with showers and such and coverted into a shelter. Phones are being setup, the Post Office is setting up operations for these people. I also know FEMA is working with real estate people to find vacant buildings they can lease as well in North Texas.

Many people just need minimal help in finding relatives across the country they can live with. I know I spent hours on the phone Sunday and yesterday finding relatives who had no idea where to start looking. Found relatives for 17 different families. Some as close as Glen Heights and Houston. Alot of people I talked to just needed money for a bus ticket to get to family but no means for a ticket or a phone to call them. Finally the relief organizers have moved from triage mode into finding family members these people can stay with.
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Sure. Not saying there isn't. The tornado that ripped through FW wasn't close to the devastation the occurred across the Gulf Coast.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match with you. I know what is going on directly from the people that are providing the relief from a national and local level. Directly from the agencies providing it. Some of which I can release, some of which I cannot. I deal with DHS on a daily basis (you know the organization that contains FEMA?)

You can continue to bitch about response all you want. It just shows me you are arm-chair quarterbacking and getting the bulk of your information not from your job but from KILF, Fox News and Fort Worth Star Telegram.

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What are you talking about? I am not bitching about the response. I kept my mouth shut until the idiots came on blaimng the feds for all their problems.

I also said the FW tornado was very small copmpared to Hurricane Katrina. You asked what experience I had and I told you. I asked you what experience you had for taking a position that the feds had screwed up or were too slow and you came up with nothing. If your position is that the feds did not screw up but were maybe a little slow, well then join the crowd. My position has been clear, NO city officials and LA state officials failed miserably to have even minimal standards for their response and the feds had to play catch up, not come in and expand and continue the response. In other words, the feds had to do it all, and that is not right.

I never said you were all software, just that if I tried to school you on a topic you obvioulsy had more knowledge of than I do, you would mock me, but when you try and school me on a topic I have more knowledge and experience than you, that is OK. Go figure.

It seems like you have now taken the same position I have and not that Bush or the feds are to blame for the devastation. If that has been your position all along, why did you argue with me?

BTW, I am hearing 400-500 NO police are missing in action. Some may be dead, some quit, some left with families, and some are doing who knows what. Please tell me that a city that has this biig of a tragedy and 1/4 of the local police force goes AWOL is evidence of a major problem that was there long before Katrina.

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It is my understanding that the NO police force has always had problems. That's coming from people who have lived in that town all their lives. Just like everyone knew about the flood that was coming, everyone knew the NO police are about as clean as pigs in shit.
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Yeah I figured you'd stick to your guns and prove just how ignorant you are of the assets available after a storm of that magnitude hits and the city goes under water. Face it we pay federal taxes so FEMA and other organizations can take care of this country. I pay a lot in taxes, 21% of my gas cost is gas, my pay check gets hit every month for over $650 in fed tax and medicare. So yes I do think that the federal government screwed this up. The people of New Orleans give their hard earned tax dollars so they have the National Government behind them when all hell breaks loose. That has not happened in a manner that is acceptable. People are loosing their lifes 5 days after the fact. Explain that one hero.


Maybe if the "stupid mother fuckers" wouldnt shoot at people trying to help them or raping and killing each other people wouldnt be dying 5 days after the fact. or maybe if people like you would help instead of pissing and moaning that everyone else fucked up. i almost didnt read your post because i knew exactly almost word for word what it was gonna say.

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It is my understanding that the NO police force has always had problems. That's coming from people who have lived in that town all their lives. Just like everyone knew about the flood that was coming, everyone knew the NO police are about as clean as pigs in shit.
It wouldn't even surprise me if NO police officers have begun showing up at local PD's asking for jobs. It also wouldn't surprise me if they got laughed out of the building.

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Maybe if the "stupid mother fuckers" wouldnt shoot at people trying to help them or raping and killing each other people wouldnt be dying 5 days after the fact. or maybe if people like you would help instead of pissing and moaning that everyone else fucked up. i almost didnt read your post because i knew exactly almost word for word what it was gonna say.

Well howdy Major Ignorance how are you? I guess you know all about what I am doing? I am helping, we have been gathering supplies at our school and I have delivered several truck loads in my truck to the Dallas ISD warehouse to be given out. I have also spent about 3 hours a night helping process displaced students into Dallas ISD as a volunteer sice last week. My cousin Kristen and her husband Mike were smart enough to leave NO before the storm and met me in Houston where I took in their two dogs (great pups by the way) parked their vehicle at my friends house down there and got them on a plane to Virginia. They will be working for the family business and stay at our family farm until they can return. This weekend I am working with the new kids to Dallas ISD to get them up to speed on Texas History, once again I am not getting paid and really enjoy it. So what have you done, it is okay to share.
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Well howdy Major Ignorance how are you? I guess you know all about what I am doing? I am helping, we have been gathering supplies at our school and I have delivered several truck loads in my truck to the Dallas ISD warehouse to be given out. I have also spent about 3 hours a night helping process displaced students into Dallas ISD as a volunteer sice last week. My cousin Kristen and her husband Mike were smart enough to leave NO before the storm and met me in Houston where I took in their two dogs (great pups by the way) parked their vehicle at my friends house down there and got them on a plane to Virginia. They will be working for the family business and stay at our family farm until they can return. This weekend I am working with the new kids to Dallas ISD to get them up to speed on Texas History, once again I am not getting paid and really enjoy it. So what have you done, it is okay to share.

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Problem is you confuse having democratic ideals with being a liberal. Most of the people on here are so into Bush they see all else as being liberal. No one wants to admit that Bush is doing a piss poor job, I bet you love the gas prices, think tax breaks are wonderful and have no clue how they affect our future economy. Taxes will be raised to recover from the war we are in now, the number of veterans needing assistance is sky rocketing. The constitution according to plan was supposed to be finished by now but an extension has been granted, why is that? I also must request that you refrain from name calling?




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Well howdy Major Ignorance how are you? I guess you know all about what I am doing? I am helping, we have been gathering supplies at our school and I have delivered several truck loads in my truck to the Dallas ISD warehouse to be given out. I have also spent about 3 hours a night helping process displaced students into Dallas ISD as a volunteer sice last week. My cousin Kristen and her husband Mike were smart enough to leave NO before the storm and met me in Houston where I took in their two dogs (great pups by the way) parked their vehicle at my friends house down there and got them on a plane to Virginia. They will be working for the family business and stay at our family farm until they can return. This weekend I am working with the new kids to Dallas ISD to get them up to speed on Texas History, once again I am not getting paid and really enjoy it. So what have you done, it is okay to share.
you dont sound very humble about what you have done
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I don't need to be humble when asked directly what I have done, I answered the question. If you don't like it piss off.
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why would u be humble? Its obvious your motives were 100% self-serving, as an excuse to beat your chest and say LOOK AT ME! WOO HOO!!

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why would u be humble? Its obvious your motives were 100% self-serving, as an excuse to beat your chest and say LOOK AT ME! WOO HOO!!
Well you could always be original and scream "liar", that would be new.
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There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

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Yeah I figured you'd stick to your guns and prove just how ignorant you are of the assets available after a storm of that magnitude hits and the city goes under water. Face it we pay federal taxes so FEMA and other organizations can take care of this country. I pay a lot in taxes, 21% of my gas cost is gas, my pay check gets hit every month for over $650 in fed tax and medicare. So yes I do think that the federal government screwed this up. The people of New Orleans give their hard earned tax dollars so they have the National Government behind them when all hell breaks loose. That has not happened in a manner that is acceptable. People are loosing their lifes 5 days after the fact. Explain that one hero.
so don't you want another tax cut....I get hit for $1000+ every two weeks......i think someone needs to hold the state and local govts accountable as well......
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Lying about what, I am still waiting for you to reply to the "lie" about A&M tuitition. If you weren't so stupid I'd slap you but I figure at best it would be like bullying a retard.
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Problem is you confuse having democratic ideals with being a liberal. Most of the people on here are so into Bush they see all else as being liberal. No one wants to admit that Bush is doing a piss poor job, I bet you love the gas prices, think tax breaks are wonderful and have no clue how they affect our future economy. Taxes will be raised to recover from the war we are in now, the number of veterans needing assistance is sky rocketing. The constitution according to plan was supposed to be finished by now but an extension has been granted, why is that? I also must request that you refrain from name calling?




Compared to you Al a 7th grader can give a better response. All I ever see you do is call people names




I have in the past called people names then KJ94GT got on here edited some of my posts and posted up name calling is to stop. I did but what I found is for the most part on this site if you don't think Bush is great most of you all get all pissed off and attack like dogs. No civility in it what so ever, you choose to call names still you have the right to say what you think no matter how juvenille it sounds


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Problem is you confuse having democratic ideals with being a liberal. Most of the people on here are so into Bush they see all else as being liberal. No one wants to admit that Bush is doing a piss poor job, I bet you love the gas prices, think tax breaks are wonderful and have no clue how they affect our future economy. Taxes will be raised to recover from the war we are in now, the number of veterans needing assistance is sky rocketing. The constitution according to plan was supposed to be finished by now but an extension has been granted, why is that? I also must request that you refrain from name calling?




Compared to you Al a 7th grader can give a better response. All I ever see you do is call people names




I have in the past called people names then KJ94GT got on here edited some of my posts and posted up name calling is to stop. I did but what I found is for the most part on this site if you don't think Bush is great most of you all get all pissed off and attack like dogs. No civility in it what so ever, you choose to call names still you have the right to say what you think no matter how juvenille it sounds
So you want me to call you names I guess you figure that makes it all good. In general I really just like being on here to get a rise out you. It is easy to push your buttons even if you do have a little to much bitch in you. My favorite statement not just reserved fr you. At this point I wouldn't piss on your leg if was blazing on fire, oh yeah didn't you catch yourself on fire. How does one do that?
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You think anything you do gets a rise outta me?

Yea....the whole ctrl+C followed by ctrl+V REALLY takes a lot of effort.....
Talk about delusions of grandeur.

I think it's a shame that someone like you is allowed to educate our youth,however. And I'm far from being in the minority of members that feel the same. You should probablly be aware that there is talk among several members of sending a log with your posts and your ip address to the DISD IT Compliance department.

Ya might want to curtail your nonsense just a teeee niny bit. To use my favorite line from "Scream," yet again: It's called tact, you fuckrag.

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Yea....the whole ctrl+C followed by ctrl+V REALLY takes a lot of effort.....
Talk about delusions of grandeur.

I think it's a shame that someone like you is allowed to educate our youth,however. And I'm far from being in the minority of members that feel the same. You should probablly be aware that there is talk among several members of sending a log with your posts and your ip address to the DISD IT Compliance department.

Ya might want to curtail your nonsense just a teeee niny bit. To use my favorite line from "Scream," yet again: It's called tact, you fuckrag.

Well if your use of "tact" is the measure I should go by then I am doing very well in that department. I understand why you would want to threaten to turn me into the my work because you can't handle what I say on the internet. This is why you said that, you want to make it personal because you can't handle it on here. Like I said you are a bitch so move out if you can't handle what is said in a public forum. Also I don't have to worry about what you think and who are these other people? I remember back when you threatened me last year and said if I showed up at the thursday Pappa's GTG you and Hollywood would take care of me. I already had met Hollywood so that didn't work for you either. Now it is you and several others so I guess you really are a bitch that can't fight his own battles. It makes me laugh to think you actually think you a better then me. I don't need to pull people in to make myself more confident, you do, this makes you a "Super Bitch", hell even Jane Fonda as fucked up as she is is willing to stand alone in her fight stop being so dam weak.
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3. Know how many people you think are "Cool with you" that say you need a good ass whipping.

I didn't say i planned on turning u in...i said several members from this site have had it with your nonsense. I gave u a warning, that came from elsewhere. you outta be appreciative, but why expect someone as pathetic as you to be anything but self serving?

Furthermore, I seriously doubt Hollywood wants you referencing him as some kind of "character witness." That's laughable.


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Well if your use of "tact" is the measure I should go by then I am doing very well in that department. I understand why you would want to threaten to turn me into the my work because you can't handle what I say on the internet. This is why you said that, you want to make it personal because you can't handle it on here. Like I said you are a bitch so move out if you can't handle what is said in a public forum. Also I don't have to worry about what you think and who are these other people? I remember back when you threatened me last year and said if I showed up at the thursday Pappa's GTG you and Hollywood would take care of me. I already had met Hollywood so that didn't work for you either. Now it is you and several others so I guess you really are a bitch that can't fight his own battles. It makes me laugh to think you actually think you a better then me. I don't need to pull people in to make myself more confident, you do, this makes you a "Super Bitch", hell even Jane Fonda as fucked up as she is is willing to stand alone in her fight stop being so dam weak.

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I didn't say i planned on turning u in...i said several members from this site have had it with your nonsense. I gave u a warning, that came from elsewhere. you outta be appreciative, but why expect someone as pathetic as you to be anything but self serving?

Furthermore, I seriously doubt Hollywood wants you referencing him as some kind of "character witness." That's laughable.
so your basically saying that you are hanging from the nuts of a bunch of "unknown members" you are such a sac! and if there are so many peope that are not cool with him why arent they here speaking there peace?
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Ah lookie...it's the resident Klansman! Shouldn't you be out burning crosses?
You have work to do, so run along.....those gas chambers arent going to fill themselves!

As to you comments, where you got any of that, is beyond me. I't's rather clear that you too failed Reading Comprehension.....then again, most ignorant racists aren't usually the sharpest of tacks.

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so your basically saying that you are hanging from the nuts of a bunch of "unknown members" you are such a sac! and if there are so many peope that are not cool with him why arent they here speaking there peace?

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you should really:
1. Get your facts straight.
2. Learn how to read.
3. Know how many people you think are "Cool with you" that say you need a good ass whipping.

I didn't say i planned on turning u in...i said several members from this site have had it with your nonsense. I gave u a warning, that came from elsewhere. you outta be appreciative, but why expect someone as pathetic as you to be anything but self serving?

Furthermore, I seriously doubt Hollywood wants you referencing him as some kind of "character witness." That's laughable.
The only person that ever seems to get real personal on here is you. The only only person I see jumping in screaming liar and even going out of his way to research the wrong college is you. Face it, you are weak, you have no spine, you hide behind others who may or may not exist. Why is that, you can't stand alone you need to be a follower. These "others" haven't come at me like you have, sure I get knocked around by Denny, 281R and Jyro every now and then but they never get as personal as you. I guess if someone else on here doesn't agree with your politics you go communist and try to hit them outside of cyber land. You think I can't shut him up so I'll be like a book burning commie and just shut him down. This is funny seeing that I am computer tech for my school and have three off periods a day. I attend training throughout the year to learn about networks, the erate system and curriculumn inclusion in the classroom. Today I have taken a few minutes to write before heading back up the hall to finish installing a new hub in our lab. So you see I even went as far as to research our internet users policy and this site and it's discussion board do not violate district protocol or policy. You sure have gotten owned on these last few posts, maybe you should take a break if you can't handle this simple forum without becoming overwhelmed by it.
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