Originally posted by 90 Notch
First of all, clarify who you are calling a tool.
Second, your fence straddling is wearing thin. Trying to argue both sides simply because you can is tantamount to Kerry wavering for his own political gain. I guess you get some pleasure in trying to be the person who can argue both sides without ever taking a firm stance based upon a strong personal conviction. I have been around people who use this tactic and usually they are very shallow and lack self confidence, there are exceptions and you may be one, who knows.
I disagree whole heartedly that just because you have been in public office that you have to vote on both sides of every issue. I have been on appointed city commissions, elected boards, and many panels that have to decide policy. You can be consistent and hold true to your values over long periods of time.
I have not once spoken out about Kerry being Catholic and publicly speaking about his support of abortion. This is one area I think his personal position has been put aside and he is actually representing his very liberal constituents.
I have never said Bush is perfect, but I have said it and will continue to say it, he is by far the best candidate we have available for President, hands down IMO. Of course he is a politician, and his decisions to go ahead and make a Homeland Security Agency after at first refusing is actually a strong point for him IMO. It was necessary and he changed his mind for the betterment of the country. He did not change his position solely based upon whether or not it would benefit him politically. He did it because it was the right thing to do. If you can't see the difference between a president having to make those types of decisions and a senator from one of the smallest states in the country changing his mind on hundreds of topics then you are choosing sides with the same partisanship you try so hard to not have.
So no, I am not going to get over the flip flop issue, thank you very much. In fact, only a Kerry supporter would want anyone to "get over" an issue that shows Kerry for what he really is.
What I'm for is fair comparison. Which again, I will state, Bush will come out ahead.
What I like to dispel is the ignorance of the people that listen to the talking heads on the radio and continue to spew their rhetoric as the actual facts.
Again you show your ignorance of the subject. To try and compare local politics to that of national politics. Then you decide to put some weight behind your arguments to discredit me by telling the world of your illustrious appointments to appointed and elected boards and commissions.
Guess what Notch, I'll put my local service against yours any day of the week. You pick, appointed or elected, or both. P&Z, Adjustments, 4A, 4B, City Council, Charter Commission... name it and we'll compare. The was a reason I chose to stop posting over a month ago and start posting on May 16th. Some people on this board know the reason. If you know your local politics you can infer the reason. Yes, it was quite a successful time.
So, how many Kerry flip flops are we talking over the course of thousands of votes?
We'll start with one, the appropriations for reconstruction on Iraq and Afghanistan, the one I hear alot of. Give me the highlights of the bill the was originally voted for, then the bill that was voted against and why Kerry voted for one and against the other.
If you can do that, you will see why this wasn't a flip flop but actually a strong stance against something else. Until you can do that, you are just a talking head spewing the right-wing rhetoric you and your talking heads love to do.
In closing, I certainly do not sit on the fence. I've actually stated in the past two weeks I'm voting for Bush. Certainly, you don't consider that sitting on the fence. But I will continue to attack people like you that look at the surface and never put your head down in the water to see what is really going on.
Again, I will state Bush is a politician that flips-flops just as much as any Senator does. There are many reasons to vote for Bush over Kerry and to try and say, "I'm voting for Bush because he doesn't flip-flop and Kerry does" shows the ignorance of the person making the statements.