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http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams.html

This was emailed to me. I could not agree more.
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"By the way, if our soldiers are to be court-martialed for anything, it should be for stupidity stupidity of permitting photos to be taken of what they were doing."
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"By the way, if our soldiers are to be court-martialed for anything, it should be for stupidity stupidity of permitting photos to be taken of what they were doing."
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I'm sick of people justifying the treatment of those Iraqis. Don't you think it's odd that this editorial came from a Jewish publication? Don't you think that our support of Israel would persuade Jews to follow our cause. Most Jews support Ariel Sharon. We support Ariel Sharon (which is BULLSHIT). Of course this guy would dismiss our actions as petty! Look at whom his voice is representing. The Jews want these people dead more than we want to save them. and vice versa. The author doesn't see the severity of the situation because the actions taken just weren't AS bad as what history has previously shown.

That last comment of the editorial was the most ridiculous!

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"By the way, if our soldiers are to be court-martialed for anything, it should be for stupidity stupidity of permitting photos to be taken of what they were doing."
Besides, I'm sure this guy only looked at images he found on the internet or on his news network. He has seen probably 1-2% of all photos that we know of. I could be wrong. I'd imagine that the most f-ed up stuff is still behind closed doors. I also find it hard to believe that a law school professor wasn't keeping tabs on the news.

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I'm sick of people justifying the treatment of those Iraqis. Don't you think it's odd that this editorial came from a Jewish publication? Don't you think that our support of Israel would persuade Jews to follow our cause. Most Jews support Ariel Sharon. We support Ariel Sharon (which is BULLSHIT). Of course this guy would dismiss our actions as petty! Look at whom his voice is representing. The Jews want these people dead more than we want to save them. and vice versa. The author doesn't see the severity of the situation because the actions taken just weren't AS bad as what history has previously shown.

That last comment of the editorial was the most ridiculous!



Besides, I'm sure this guy only looked at images he found on the internet or on his news network. He has seen probably 1-2% of all photos that we know of. I could be wrong. I'd imagine that the most f-ed up stuff is still behind closed doors. I also find it hard to believe that a law school professor wasn't keeping tabs on the news.
I am tired of hearing "oh, how fucking bad we treated the Iraqi prisoners." It was wrong but compared to what some of those extremist do and as he mentioned in the artilce what some other people in other countries have done to torture people....what we did does not compare. Who cares if it is from a Jewish source. What about those assfucks killing civilians, cutting heads off, dragging burned bodies around. Yeah, that is okay too?!?!?. Two wrongs don't make a right but there is a degree of severity in the wrongs. I think the soldiers that did that should be punished as we are to be better than that but lets get on with it. If you want to have a bleeding heart for these people go live with them. I am tired of the double standard shit the media and public seems to have these days. Perhaps you should become more educated on what those monstorous extremist people do to others. I can somewhat understand some actions and treatment we did to those prisoners. I just wish the entire damn conflict with the Middle East would end. Those people (extremist) have no hope. Good day.

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I am tired of hearing "oh, how fucking bad we treated the Iraqi prisoners." It was wrong but compared to what some of those extremist do and as he mentioned in the artilce what some other people in other countries have done to torture people....what we did does not compare. Who cares if it is from a Jewish source. What about those assfucks killing civilians, cutting heads off, dragging burned bodies around. Yeah, that is okay too?!?!?. Two wrongs don't make a right but there is a degree of severity in the wrongs. I think the soldiers that did that should be punished as we are to be better than that but lets get on with it. If you want to have a bleeding heart for these people go live with them. I am tired of the double standard shit the media and public seems to have these days. Perhaps you should become more educated on what those monstorous extremist people do to others. I can somewhat understand some actions and treatment we did to those prisoners. I just wish the entire damn conflict with the Middle East would end. Those people (extremist) have no hope. Good day.

I too wish the conflict would end, but that end is no where in sight. I do not have a bleeding heart for those people. My heart belongs to the soldiers and to the USA (however messed up our agenda ma be). The double standard you speak of goes way beyond this incident in theory. War in itself is a double standard. "Killing to keep the peace." It all depends on which side you are looking at it from.

Are you implying that if I had done more homework on the topic, the abuse would seem more justified? come on. I am well aware of what extremists, the middle east, and saddam were/are capable of. Look, the reason everybody is so mad is because the US (up until now) was always been accepted as the humanitarians of the world. These pictures portray us as not being so. These pictures have set us back significantly in that regards.

If you think two wrongs don't make a right... why did you agree with this guys article? Correct me if I am wrong but he seems to make it sound like our wrongs weren't as bad so those kids should be left alone.
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I too wish the conflict would end, but that end is no where in sight. I do not have a bleeding heart for those people. My heart belongs to the soldiers and to the USA
If that is the case then you'd agree that the gloves should come off. They made some guys parade around naked, shoved some sticks up their ass and put bags over their heads. Big deal. It's nothing compared to the shit these idiots do on a daily basis over there...it's not even in the same ball park.

The best way to support our troops is say "do what you got to do". And if that means some Iraqi insurgents in our care get a little roughed up, well that's just terrible.....

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If that is the case then you'd agree that the gloves should come off. They made some guys parade around naked, shoved some sticks up their ass and put bags over their heads. Big deal. It's nothing compared to the shit these idiots do on a daily basis over there...it's not even in the same ball park.

The best way to support our troops is say "do what you got to do". And if that means some Iraqi insurgents in our car get a little roughed up, well that's just terrible.....
Just because I support my troops and my country does not mean I am willing to take the "gloves off" approach, and let my country "do what they got to do." Turning my head and giving my blind loyalty to the administration is what they want everyone to do. "Here's my checkbook and my son. Do what you gotta do W" F that.
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Just because I support my troops and my country does not mean I am willing to take the "gloves off" approach, and let my country "do what they got to do." Turning my head and giving my blind loyalty to the administration is what they want everyone to do. "Here's my checkbook and my son. Do what you gotta do W" F that.
Yea, that's what I meant, that we should give them free reign to take over the world
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Yea, that's what I meant, that we should give them free reign to take over the world
We already gave them them free reign over the middle east, why not the world?
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We already gave them them free reign over the middle east, why not the world?
Yea...the sky is falling...the sky is falling. I'm glad you're not paranoid.
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Well, it was wrong what we did and things like the rape, sticking crap up their a$$ and the pictures should be prevented from happening again. I am all for roughing them up though to get info and just to do it to those extremists. I am tired of people focusing on the "terrible" injustice we did, which is jack shit compared to those bottom feeders. Hell, if they behave like they do such as torture, cutting heads off, and what not they deserve to be treated like shit. Once again, not rape and whatever but you get my drift. Seems the world has a double standard. Everytime an Iraqi civilian gets killed in a battle you see the world shaking their finger at the US. That's war, get over it. Look at what those people do. The entire middle east go can go to hell and take their screwed up extremist with them. I am tired of fellow Muslims not taking part and speaking up more against such act of their
"fellow" Muslims. Maybe I am just a jerk. Screw'em. I wish the public, media, and bleeding heart politicians would just stop and let the military get in there and clean up on a large scale like we are capable of. Like the article said, this has been the most humane war. Honestly, I am to the point I would enjoy shooting some of those fucktards.
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Well, it was wrong what we did and things like the rape, sticking crap up their a$$ and the pictures should be prevented from happening again. I am all for roughing them up though to get info and just to do it to those extremists. I am tired of people focusing on the "terrible" injustice we did, which is jack shit compared to those bottom feeders. Hell, if they behave like they do such as torture, cutting heads off, and what not they deserve to be treated like shit. Once again, not rape and whatever but you get my drift. Seems the world has a double standard. Everytime an Iraqi civilian gets killed in a battle you see the world shaking their finger at the US. That's war, get over it. Look at what those people do. The entire middle east go can go to hell and take their screwed up extremist with them. I am tired of fellow Muslims not taking part and speaking up more against such act of their
"fellow" Muslims. Maybe I am just a jerk. Screw'em. I wish the public, media, and bleeding heart politicians would just stop and let the military get in there and clean up on a large scale like we are capable of. Like the article said, this has been the most humane war. Honestly, I am to the point I would enjoy shooting some of those fucktards.
Welcome to anti-Americanism. You'll notice a lot of it comes from Europe. The Israelis have been putting up with it for years....
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Welcome to anti-Americanism. You'll notice a lot of it comes from Europe. The Israelis have been putting up with it for years....
I give up. People are just stupid fucks!I think Europe forgot about Hitler and WWII.
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I give up. People are just stupid fucks!I think Europe forgot about Hitler and WWII.
Oh yes they did.....in about 1955.
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Why bother going all the way to Europe?
You can look at modern American liberalism for a healthy dose of Anti-Americanism.


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Why bother going all the way to Europe?
You can look at modern American liberalism for a healthy dose of Anti-Americanism.
This is true, go to the American West coast for every variety of fuck up. Socialists, Communists, Marxists....the list goes on and on and on. Most of them have some sort of self loathing...

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Or you can try the East Coast........Frye St has its share of malcontents...but MOST of Denton Proper is ok.



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I'm sick of people justifying the treatment of those Iraqis. Don't you think it's odd that this editorial came from a Jewish publication? Don't you think that our support of Israel would persuade Jews to follow our cause. Most Jews support Ariel Sharon. We support Ariel Sharon (which is BULLSHIT). Of course this guy would dismiss our actions as petty! Look at whom his voice is representing. The Jews want these people dead more than we want to save them. and vice versa. The author doesn't see the severity of the situation because the actions taken just weren't AS bad as what history has previously shown.

Besides, I'm sure this guy only looked at images he found on the internet or on his news network. He has seen probably 1-2% of all photos that we know of. I could be wrong. I'd imagine that the most f-ed up stuff is still behind closed doors. I also find it hard to believe that a law school professor wasn't keeping tabs on the news.
First off, Walter Williams isn't Jewish, and he doesn't represent anyone but himself. Second of all, he's one of the smartest men in the world. While it's entirely possible that the article was written with some artistic license for effect, don't doubt his research or his facts. I don't see him defending anything that was done (nor am I), but to call pissing on someone or embarassing them "torture" is to show what spoiled little PC pussies some Americans have become. There's a video circulating of those fucking people sawing off an American civilian's head. A little perspective would be nice.
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