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Characteristics of Fascism

I just thought this is something interesting to think about. Not saying bush is a fascist, but i think you can definitely draw parrallels in alot of his policy.
http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

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Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses
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Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses
i see where you are getting this parallel, are you suggesting that what bush is doing is wrong by identifying a threat? i support bush on his stance for a stronger military and stronger intelligence. i support him 110% for his stance on the partiot act.

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I just thought this is something interesting to think about. Not saying bush is a fascist, but i think you can definitely draw parrallels in alot of his policy.
http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm
its kinda funny how a liberal defines fascist. Suits it up just for his need to call George Bush a fascist. But I guess it can happen on both sides of the fense. With further reading on rense.com announces that if America recieves another attack from Alqueda, "its the US's fault". How low and ignorant can libs get?

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its kinda funny how a liberal defines fascist. Suits it up just for his need to call George Bush a fascist. But I guess it can happen on both sides of the fense. With further reading on rense.com announces that if America recieves another attack from Alqueda, "its the US's fault". How low and ignorant can libs get?
Maybe these "ignorant and low" libs realize that you cant change the beliefs of people, but you can prepare yourself. IM NO WHERE NEAR LETTING AL QUEDA OFF THE HOOK, IM GLAD WE WENT INTO AFGHANISTAN, BUT I AM ALSO ALL FOR HOLDING OUR GOVT ACCOUNTABLE. believe or not you can hold bush and clinton accountable for what happened on our soil, strive to never let it happen again, and still want the terorist to roast in hell as i do
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Maybe these "ignorant and low" libs realize that you cant change the beliefs of people, but you can prepare yourself. IM NO WHERE NEAR LETTING AL QUEDA OFF THE HOOK, IM GLAD WE WENT INTO AFGHANISTAN, BUT I AM ALSO ALL FOR HOLDING OUR GOVT ACCOUNTABLE. believe or not you can hold bush and clinton accountable for what happened on our soil, strive to never let it happen again, and still want the terorist to roast in hell as i do
I agree, I just dont buy into all the BS lies that are spread by the left about our president. I've never met George Bush, but I think he takes the Presidency a lot more seriously than Clinton did or Al Gore or Kerry would. Dont get me wrong, there things I disagree with Bush on, but I think at the choices we have at hand, he's the best man for the job.

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Definition of Facism: The unholy marriage between government and corporations.

Domestic policy dictated by Ken Lay of Enron.
Foreign policy dictated by Haliburton.

Every single member of the Bush junta was a C.E.O, lobbyist or a top official of a corporation.

Add to that the stolen election of 2000, the corporate rape of Iraq, and the Gespato like provisions of the Patriot Act, and you can kiss our Democracy good bye.

Re-select Bush if you want America to be a third world consumer plantation.
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I agree, I just dont buy into all the BS lies that are spread by the left about our president.

Kinda ironic that you buy into all the BS lies that are spread by conservatives about Kerry. Why is that??

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Kinda ironic that you buy into all the BS lies that are spread by conservatives about Kerry. Why is that??
what BS lies? Kerry said and voted these things himself. He got his own self in trouble. So no, its not ironic

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7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.


8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.

7 is self explanatory..

8 let me quote "BusH"
"let me RE-UTTERATE, that this is NOT a holy war.....and thats why GOD IS ON OUR SIDE"

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Maybe these "ignorant and low" libs realize that you cant change the beliefs of people, but you can prepare yourself. IM NO WHERE NEAR LETTING AL QUEDA OFF THE HOOK, IM GLAD WE WENT INTO AFGHANISTAN, BUT I AM ALSO ALL FOR HOLDING OUR GOVT ACCOUNTABLE. believe or not you can hold bush and clinton accountable for what happened on our soil, strive to never let it happen again, and still want the terorist to roast in hell as i do
But, you don't want to go over there and do anything about it huh?

Nice philosophy. It might work if the world was an elementary school playground.
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And I almost forgot, the fact that you use www.rense.com as anything but comedy really says a lot....
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But, you don't want to go over there and do anything about it huh?

Nice philosophy. It might work if the world was an elementary school playground.
1) when did i ever say i was against going after bin laden?

2) I think bush acting like a big bully that doesnt need any allies is treating the world like an elementary playground my friend
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1) when did i ever say i was against going after bin laden?

2) I think bush acting like a big bully that doesnt need any allies is treating the world like an elementary playground my friend
So, we need allies....for WHAT?

Go crack a history textbook, our "allies" never want to do anything about anyone. They are chickenshits now just like they always have been. How the fuck do you think Hitler took over Europe?
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1) when did i ever say i was against going after bin laden?

2) I think bush acting like a big bully that doesnt need any allies is treating the world like an elementary playground my friend
Where did I say anything about Bin Laden? I specifically meant Saddam Hussein. That cocksucker got what he deserved, WMDs or not.
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So, we need allies....for WHAT?

Go crack a history textbook, our "allies" never want to do anything about anyone. They are chickenshits now just like they always have been. How the fuck do you think Hitler took over Europe?
crack your history book to where France provided our patriots with naval support during the revolutionary war. That was them being "chicken shits like they always have been" risking their country to take on the world's super power thousands of miles away
But i bet that doesnt count

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crack your history book to where France provided our patriots with naval support during the revolutionary war.
But i bet that doesnt count
Yea....that was back when they used to actually fight....
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Yea....that was back when they used to actually fight....
oohhhhhhhhhh so that word always in your statement refers to the period you want it to?
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Yes, the word "always" encompasses everything from the beginning of time...
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Yes, the word "always" encompasses everythign from the beginning of time...
then it looks like that if their was a period where one of our allies "use to fight", they havent ALWAYS been chicken shit have they? Considering our country might not even be here without their help. But thats not important.
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then it looks like that if their was a period where one of our allies "use to fight", they havent ALWAYS been chicken shit have they? Considering our country might not even be here without their help. But thats not important.
An interesting conclusion but i have to disagree. I said they USED TO FIGHT...meaning that as time has gone by they have become more and more chickenshit. I never said otherwise.

If you'd like to thank the French for being the fathers of our country, by all means, go right ahead if that is your thing.

Besides, all of this is totally irrelevant for the purposes of our discussion. Saying you need the French on your side in order to go to war is like saying you need an accordion in order to go duck hunting....
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Saying you need the French on your side in order to go to war is like saying you need an accordion in order to go duck hunting....
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An interesting conclusion but i have to disagree. I said they USED TO FIGHT...meaning that as time has gone by they have become more and more chickenshit. I never said otherwise.

If you'd like to thank the French for being the fathers of our country, by all means, go right ahead if that is your thing.

Besides, all of this is totally irrelevant for the purposes of our discussion. Saying you need the French on your side in order to go to war is like saying you need an accordion in order to go duck hunting....
u never said otherwise? what a bunch of bs! first you say "they are chicken shit just as thay always have been. then you change what you "meant" to say by saying they have become more that way over time. dont yank my chain. The fact is you acted like our allies have never been there for us and told me to "crack a history book" you said again: "chicken shit as they ALWAYS have been" and i proved you wrong. hows that off the subject?
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u never said otherwise? what a bunch of bs! first you say "they are chicken shit just as thay always have been. then you change what you "meant" to say by saying they have become more that way over time. dont yank my chain. The fact is you acted like our allies have never been there for us and told me to "crack a history book" you said again: "chicken shit as they ALWAYS have been" and i proved you wrong. hows that off the subject?
I never changed what I "meant" to say moron. The French have always been gutless, unless it serves their pocketbook, then they are slightly better. Its no coincidence that they are the butt of military jokes.

How your statement of a single fact:

"France provided our patriots with naval support during the revolutionary war"

"proves" or doesn't prove anything about them i have no idea. That is, except for your willingness to suck their cocks by proclaiming them "the father of our country" or whatever that nonsense was. Then again, thanks to your ramblings, no here is expecting you to make any sense anyway. You're just another one of the fucking liberal idiots who has popped up on here of late to spew your load of bullshit.

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I never changed what I "meant" to say moron. The French have always been gutless, unless it serves their pocketbook, then they are slightly better. Its no coincidence that they are the butt of military jokes.

How your statement of a single fact:

"France provided our patriots with naval support during the revolutionary war"

"proves" or doesn't prove anything about them i have no idea. That is, except for your willingness to suck their cocks by proclaiming them "the father of our country" or whatever that nonsense was. Then again, thanks to your ramblings, no here is expecting you to make any sense anyway. You're just another one of the fucking liberal idiots who has popped up on here of late to spew your load of bullshit.

BTW, this is a Mustang site. Liberals of your ilk all drive VWs don't they?
1) i own a 93 titanium silver 5 speed coupe, so once again your stereotype is wrong.
2) i never said the french were the "fathers of our country" the only one who has used that slogan is you, i said they played a hand in our victory over the british.
3) id prefer that you not name call, you dont know me, therefore you have no right to use profanity towards the names you call me.
you want to talk politics thats one thing. you wanna call me a fucking idiot , tell me "to suck their cocks" is another and i dont appreciate it.
4) i havent seen you present any kind of knowledge about any subject other than the knowledge of how to name call liberals. Why question what im doing in this forum, shouldnt i be questioning what you are doing?
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