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What UPS would be best for me?

I need 4 UPS boxes for my business.
1) P4 3.0ghz server
3) POS terminals with 700mgh Celeron

Whats the best brands and the ones to stay away from?

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I need 4 UPS boxes for my business.
1) P4 3.0ghz server
3) POS terminals with 700mgh Celeron

Whats the best brands and the opens to stay away from?
http://www.csgnetwork.com/upssizecalc.html

There are a few better ones out there, but this will give you an idea of where to gauge your usage at.

People may hate them, but ive always used APC for my UPS's.

(Go buy a Kill-A-Watt) It will help visualize your power usage as well.

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Maybe for home use, or even small office.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1545595

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Best Buy has RocketFish UPS units on clearance:

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pr...RF-1025VA.html
normally $129.99 NOW: $77.99 SKU: 9486727

http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/pr.../RF-825VA.html
Normally: $89.99 NOW: $45.99 SKU: 9486683

These have USB connectivity, COAX, RJ-11/45 protection and the 1025VA model has lights on the rear you can turn on to see if you put it in a dark, hard to reach place (which is common for me).

EDIT: added SKUs for each.

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Damn I think your gonna have a hard time finding anything better or cheaper than those.

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i use two 875 volt/amp ups to run my home theater. one is a geek squad ups and the other is a apc ups.

i also use a smaller 350 v/a apc ups to run my wireless router and vonage adapter. and another to run my desktop.

have had great luck and reliability with apc and geek squad. i've also used belkin before with no problems to speak of.

you just have to calculate your wattage demands to determine the appropriate size ups.

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Is a line conditioner necessary?

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some audiophiles will tell you that they can actually hear an audible difference in fidelity with their a/v gear plugged into a line conditioner, typically high end stuff like monster ht. i have helped a buddy calibrate his h/t. he had an sacd player. and had a triplite line conditioner. out of mere curiosity, i honestly tried to hear a difference using the line conditioner and then bypassing it all together. i could hear no discernible difference. i personally think it is a foolish way to blow $300 - $600. well, that is if you want one that is actually "high quality".

i'm a huge advocate of using a ups to protect your investment, but i'm in the category that think line conditioners are bogus. now you say that on a hard core audiophile forum and they try to rip your head off. however, based on my experience they are superfluous.

a quality ups is already taking care of your gear. my ups' 2-3 millisecond switch over to battery during a power failure. kicking in during brown-outs (100 volt range) and kickiing in during spikes (140 volt range). and the battery and circuitry inside the ups itself makes for an excellent filter. it will output 120v/60Hz almost until it dies, if a/c power is not restored. and miine also have built in filters for my phone and ethernet.

also, many high end receivers have spike resistant circuitry or breakers.

my 2 cents.....

p.s. - if people don't understand the need to have your expensive a/v gear behind a ups, take the test leads on your dvm and shove them into a socket. watch it for a couple of hours, especially on really hot days when everyone on your grid is running their air conditioners. it'll surprise you how much the voltage fluctuates. i've seen it go from 112v - 128v at my house. that kind of vacillation in electrical pressure will fatigue sensitive electronics plugged directly into a wall. and people are always concerned about spikes, but many don't realize that a sustained brown-out will fry your system just the same.

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some audiophiles will tell you that they can actually hear an audible difference in fidelity with their a/v gear plugged into a line condition, typically high end stuff like monster ht. i have helped a buddy calibrate his h/t. he had an sacd player. and had a triplite line conditioner. out of mere curiosity, i honestly tried to hear a difference using the line condition and then bypassing it all together. i could here no discernible difference. i personally think it is a foolish way to blow $300 - $600. well, that is if you want one that is actually "high quality".

i'm a huge advocate of using a ups to protect your investment, but i'm in the category that think line conditioners are bogus. now you say that on a hard core audiophile forum and they try to rip your head off. however, based on my experience they are superfluous.

a quality ups is already taking care of your gear. my ups' 2-3 millisecond switch over to battery during a power failure. kicking in during brown-outs (100 volt range) and kickiing in during spikes (140 volt range). and the battery and circuitry inside the ups itself makes for an excellent filter. it will output 120v/60Hz almost until it dies, if a/c power is not restored. and miine also have built in filters for my phone and ethernet.

also, many high end receivers have spike resistant circuitry or breakers.

my 2 cents.....

p.s. - if people don't understand the need to have your expensive a/v gear behind a ups, take the test leads on your dvr and shove them into a socket. watch it for a couple of hours, especially on really hot days when everyone on your grid is running their air conditioners. it'll surprise you how much the voltage fluctuates. i've seen it go from 112v - 128v at my house. that kind of vacillation in electrical pressure will fatigue sensitive electronics plugged directly into a wall. and people are always concerned about spikes, but many don't realize that a sustained brown-out will fry your system just the same.

Some good info in this post. Only problem is AudioPhile's are fucking nuts...

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Some good info in this post. Only problem is AudioPhile's are fucking nuts...
Thanks. And, yes, that's true most of the time.

Also, just for clarity wanted to mention a typo in my previous post. When I said dvr, I meant DVM (digital volt meter). There may have been been a few people scratching their heads on that comment. I try to type too damn fast.

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I would say so. A 1,000 V/A APC brand UPS for a $150 is about right. That power factor rating usually runs from $130-$150 retail. Man, that 43 lbs. jumped out at me when I read the specs. I think my 875 V/A units weigh around 25 lbs. each.

APC is good gear. I'd say buy it with confidence.

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we used to install these in electrical panels when i worked at my last gig..... $25000 coverage and lifetime warranty

http://74.53.140.226/~sycomsur/produ...240TC-4-3.html

not that they provide battery back up.....but considering what a monster surge protector cost vs this.......and this covers the entire electrical portion of the home......seems like a good investment

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i can still get them pretty cheap too......but again...just another idea to CYA

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