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i dusted her off and wiped it down today, in preparation for some new fans coming in tomorrow.





I haven't ran Vantage since getting my third 285, but I downloaded it this afternoon and here are my results.


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That's a heck of a rig you got there. You oughtta do [email protected] w/ it.





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That's a heck of a rig you got there. You oughtta do [email protected] w/ it.
than this room would be stupid hot. lol

I only use it a few times a week.

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That is a very impressive rig. What needs a PC with that much power? Is that a TEC cooling the CPU?

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than this room would be stupid hot. lol

I only use it a few times a week.
You have all that hardware and only use it a couple times a week?

Bring it to me, or lemme pick it up. I'll put it to use and pay the electric bill.
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You have all that hardware and only use it a couple times a week?

Bring it to me, or lemme pick it up. I'll put it to use and pay the electric bill.
Alzheimer's is rampant in my family, hence my motivation to fold. I'm foldin an E6700 @ 3.1 and a 9800GT as well as a 9600. I could always use more foldin equipment.
yeah i use my macbook pro for daily use, but I use this computer for mainly playing games so I use it when I want to play some pc games

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That is a very impressive rig. What needs a PC with that much power? Is that a TEC cooling the CPU?
I game at 2560x1600 so I feel that tri-sli is needed at this resolution.
Just a cheapo watercooling system, once the fermi release or ati's release is out will i go full on and watercool it with a traditional setup.

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yeah i use my macbook pro for daily use, but I use this computer for mainly playing games so I use it when I want to play some pc games


I game at 2560x1600 so I feel that tri-sli is needed at this resolution.
Just a cheapo watercooling system, once the fermi release or ati's release is out will i go full on and watercool it with a traditional setup.
I dont think it will fit on your current PC case will it? I have the same Lian Li case, with the side window, but my contents inside look nothing like that :P

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I'll be honest, I have no clue what I am looking at. Apparently it is good though, so congrats. Haha.

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I'll be honest, I have no clue what I am looking at. Apparently it is good though, so congrats. Haha.
A pc?

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I dont think it will fit on your current PC case will it? I have the same Lian Li case, with the side window, but my contents inside look nothing like that :P
Yeah i've been working out how to mount everything, and I think i'll have to Frankenstein it with like a 3x120 radiator mounted on the top exterior. As money permits really

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Here is a brief look at mine... I know its dirty but I am cleaning it today, BTW its not the same case the Lian Li is in storage.



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Some nice rigs in here. Here's mine. QX9650, 2xGTX260's, some other stuff.


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[QUOTE=4.0x3.48;6167639]Some nice rigs in here. Here's mine. QX9650, 2xGTX260's, some other stuff.

I wanna watercool my next rig and actually make a mod ill take some pointers on liquid cooling from you guys

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I went a long time using only passive cooling, but water cooling is the bomb. I'm running a small overclock on my cpu, 3.8gig, and the temp never changes. It is awesome. I just got water blocks for my GTX's, and I will add them to the loop with a bigger radiator soon.

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yall are some ballers and don't you think that 1k watt PSU is overkill or were you future proofing?





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I'm just trying to be ready for when I can build a "Roliath-worthy" system. Not to mention I have a pal that works at Fry's, and he got me an awesome deal on it.

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yall are some ballers and don't you think that 1k watt PSU is overkill or were you future proofing?
I had an corsair tx850, but when I added the third gtx i ran out of 6 pin molex's so I was forced to get an enermax 1050w (top dog shit!). But yeah its also a bit of future proofing.

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I'm just trying to be ready for when I can build a "Roliath-worthy" system. Not to mention I have a pal that works at Fry's, and he got me an awesome deal on it.
I think SLI is overkill IMO, I really don't think its necessary.

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I think SLI is overkill IMO, I really don't think its necessary.
It depends on what you are trying to do. If you're trying to play some of the newer games on the highest quality settings at a 2560x1600, and have a high framerate, the SLI helps. With some of the newer cards though, the performance is already much higher than some older "high end" gpu's. Like a single GTX 260 (my setup before I added the second), is way higher than my wife's SLI'd 8800's (my old setup). Check out some of the charts at Tom's Hardware and you can see some scores of different cards in different setups.

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It depends on what you are trying to do. If you're trying to play some of the newer games on the highest quality settings at a 2560x1600, and have a high framerate, the SLI helps. With some of the newer cards though, the performance is already much higher than some older "high end" gpu's. Like a single GTX 260 (my setup before I added the second), is way higher than my wife's SLI'd 8800's (my old setup). Check out some of the charts at Tom's Hardware and you can see some scores of different cards in different setups.
word up 2560x1600 with AA on in most games is pretty taxing on systems.

I ran sli 8800gtx's, sli 9800gx2's, sli 7950gx2's (remember those fuckers?), sli gtx260s, so it was a no brainer for me when I moved into the 285's. SLI scales VERY well compared to Xfire at higher resolutions, the primary use of my computer is gaming and I wanted the best gaming experience I could afford I believe I accomplished that.
I didn't want to have to compromise due to the upgrade from 1920x1200 also.

I still have things I would like to change though, like go with a traditional watercooling setup and eventually upgrade the gpu's when the refresh is out as i could use more vram.

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Why would you use obsolete software? Windows 2000 is where its at.

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CJ, is that a freaking car power adapter (whats the name for that anyway?) plugged into your PC?

I wish I had the cash to get me a custom phase change setup from one of the guys on XS.

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CJ, is that a freaking car power adapter (whats the name for that anyway?) plugged into your PC?

I wish I had the cash to get me a custom phase change setup from one of the guys on XS.
Check this out.

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Yeah 980x are beasts! I upgraded a client cab of servers with some of the new 6 core xeon's, I wouldn't mind to get my hand on one of them. But with 1366 being replaced with 1356 I don't want to change my cpu yet. Sandy Bridge is right around the corner.

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I hadn't heard of them so I googled it and have a question for ya.

What is it about it that's appealing to you?





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I hadn't heard of them so I googled it and have a question for ya.

What is it about it that's appealing to you?
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I think we're getting closer and closer to 5ghz, I think 4.5ghz 12thread cpu's will be the norm (highend) late 2011. Quad channel ram in high end servers. TDP looks low manageable too.

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I don't know how it affects it, but that guy who's machine I linked to says it doesn't perform/OC quite as well as his former 975extreme and he feels like it's prolly due to the large on die cache. As far as sheer workload, it will out do the 975 though.





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I don't know how it affects it, but that guy who's machine I linked to says it doesn't perform/OC quite as well as his former 975extreme and he feels like it's prolly due to the large on die cache. As far as sheer workload, it will out do the 975 though.
i'd take more cores over clock speed any day (reasonably), 4.75ghz is still freaking stellar though. I KNOW my 920 can boot at 4.4ghz and 4.6ghz with turbo but temps are too much for this domino. But I would rather have a 6 core/12 thread cpu @ 4ghz and call it day.

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I think your assessment is spot on.





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I use a 1977 Pontiac Bonneville heater core for my rad. It's solid copper, and twice as thick as a PA120.3 rad, and it cools just about the same - and I can fit it in a cosmos. I had a great idea about making a custom shroud for the heater core, used a t-shirt and some resin mixed with fiberglass and created a nice custom shroud:

And then my retarded ass realized it wouldn't clear my waterblock on the motherboard, so I just tossed it in the closet, never could use it.

At the time I took the photo I was using an Eheim 1260. I now use a DD5 variable DC pump. However, that Eheim ran in my computer for 8 years straight, only turned off for about 4 hours total combined. And it was still working the day I removed it. I just can't stand the sound, that's why I'm water cooled. I have run a phase change setup before, but I didn't like the sound of the compressor clicking on and off all the time at night. I preferred a custom peltier water chiller I made. The only bad thing is you need two separate loops, and your computer weighs about 150lbs. My current rig in the picture weighs just about 100lbs.

Heres a pic from a few years ago using my water chiller:


It was fun, but turning on the computer caused all the lights to dim, and using almost 2kW for your computer got old fast. And, it increased the temperature of my room by about 20* F, which in a texas summer is unbearable.

I was into machining my own waterblocks out of copper billet, but It became rather expensive. I did make a thread on hardforum several years ago on how I melted down $5.00 in pre-76 pennies into a copper block and then machined it into a GPU block. But, I got tired of constantly havign to change things for new systems and chipsets - went out and bought some danger den hardware which fucked me (their reservoir wasn't even glued together, leaked water all over the damn place). So if you're interested in it, fuck danger den. Swiftech or Dtek makes great stuff.

Now I'm running a AMD 965 Black edition which I won at quakecon 2009. First time I've ever owned a non-intel system in my life. My computer only has 2 120mm scythe magnetic bearingless fans which are dead silent. I can hear the capacitors on my ram at night, that's quiet. It does cool quite well, my delta is about 10*C on all my components, however they do idle at higher temps than air (which is usual). My hardware tends to outlast most peoples that are air cooled, even when it's overclocked considerably. But, like I said I am primarily interested in water because of the quiet, and lack of maintenance, I have to put some distilled water in it about 3-4 times a year, and blow out my radiator 4-5 times a year, which takes just a second.

For simplicities sake, I'd recommend just doing air cooling if you can bare the noise. Water cooling will cost you a fortune, but once you have decent components it's only a small expense for the gains. But, Roliath clearly has too much heat with all those cards, you'd need a full tower with 2 gigantic rads and 2 separate loops, probably run you over $1,000 to do it correctly. Adapters, barbs, interconnects, blocks, and tubing is where it kills you.

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I wish I had the cash to get me a custom phase change setup from one of the guys on XS.
yup, cheaper than AC cell phone chargers - I use to use the shit out of that thing, I don't have it anymore, but it was pretty damn useful.
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this shitty example is one I made many years ago. It's the same heater core though, so you can see the size and dimensions.
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But, Roliath clearly has too much heat with all those cards, you'd need a full tower with 2 gigantic rads and 2 separate loops, probably run you over $1,000 to do it correctly. Adapters, barbs, interconnects, blocks, and tubing is where it kills you.
That's badass what you did with the heatercore.

Yeah I have priced it out, however as often as I change cards I won't be watercooling them in the future. The gtx's temp depending on which game i'm playing varies, but they do get hot there's no doubt about that.

I don't want to get into a full tower case either, so that largely limits my space as well unless I get creative.

I do plan however getting one of the new amd 6 core proc's and putting it into my amd rig (x2 550 be, 4gb 1333, 4870 1gb (soon to be replaced with a 5870 its in transit) on 785g chipset. I've been blown away by the price I paid in getting that system up and running and the performance its given me at 1920x1200.

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That's badass what you did with the heatercore.

Yeah I have priced it out, however as often as I change cards I won't be watercooling them in the future. The gtx's temp depending on which game i'm playing varies, but they do get hot there's no doubt about that.

I don't want to get into a full tower case either, so that largely limits my space as well unless I get creative.

I do plan however getting one of the new amd 6 core proc's and putting it into my amd rig (x2 550 be, 4gb 1333, 4870 1gb (soon to be replaced with a 5870 its in transit) on 785g chipset. I've been blown away by the price I paid in getting that system up and running and the performance its given me at 1920x1200.
yeah it's not a good option for you, I'd stick with air having that many cards. I'm still chugging along with my 8800GTX OC, and it still does great at 1080P gaming on my projector. Wanting to snag a 5870 like you mentioned simply for the video/audio hdmi passhtrough.
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How hard was it to make that shroud? (the t-shirt resin mix)

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How hard was it to make that shroud? (the t-shirt resin mix)
pretty easy, only took me about 10 hours. You just need fiberglass resin, a t-shirt, and then some fiberglass to strength the interior. I took an old heater core I had (same one) and used double sided tape on the back of some 120mm fans, and stuck the fans to the face of the radiator. Then I wrapped a t-shirt over the fans and heatercore and kept it very taut. Then you just apply your resin and let it dry. After that, you cut the shroud flat, and add some additional resin/glass to the interior to keep it rigid.



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haha, I'm just a cheapass. You can get that heatercore at autozone for around 30 bucks. Then all you do is take a propane torch to the two barbs and you can pull them out. Next, you thread in two cheap ass 1/2" barbs from the hardware store ($3-4) and some plumber solder. Just solder them in and bam...ready to kick ass.
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haha, I'm just a cheapass. You can get that heatercore at autozone for around 30 bucks. Then all you do is take a propane torch to the two barbs and you can pull them out. Next, you thread in two cheap ass 1/2" barbs from the hardware store ($3-4) and some plumber solder. Just solder them in and bam...ready to kick ass.
You make it seem sooooo easy...

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You make it seem sooooo easy...
it is that easy. Start to finish 5 minutes.
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That's one hell of a machine you got there.

I'd be interested in seeing your Sandra or Fresh Diagnose CPU test results.

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it was not a problem to bring money to his house at 10pm.so why is it a problem to call and bitch.it wasnt a problem when we were all sitting around smoking pot together.yes i said it we all were smoking pot together.what now stupid.
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