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Mac - Would like input on somethings

So, for work I decided to trying out a Macbook Pro.

Tell, why the HELL do windows apps run snappier in a VM running on a Mac? Why does windows in general run better in a VM on Mac? I suppose that alone could be the answer, its VMware running on a Mac and the Windows stuff is running on a VM.

Anyway, I'm like a fish out of water so far. I got my Windows VM up and running so I can work, here is what I did with the Mac itself...

-Adium
-Time Machine
-Cisco VPN
-VMWare Fusion
-Spaces
-MOC

In general I'm going to use my Windows XP VM for all work tasks. Was just cuious if there are any recommendations for must have apps...etc for the Mac itself.

For anyone that does not know....yes, owning a Mac is a little gay. However, the shit just works. I'm floored and I've been in the business awhile.

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If you plan on keeping the install, you'd be wise to put a free AV on there, if you haven't already.





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I've been impressed with how good Windows runs on a Mac. However, the guys where I work have seen problems with it crashing once they start running intensive stuff like development software.
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If you plan on keeping the install, you'd be wise to put a free AV on there, if you haven't already.
Fair enough, will definetly do so since I've completely forgotten about the basics like that.

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I've been impressed with how good Windows runs on a Mac. However, the guys where I work have seen problems with it crashing once they start running intensive stuff like development software.
I can believe that. What are they using for the VM?

I don't think I'll run a single tough app for it. Just a bunch of little ones that add up.

I ask what is running its VM since I know there are at least 2 popular ones out there Parallels and VMWare Fusion. I chose Fusion for my own reasons, but I know some people swear by Parallels.

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You might also find some of these useful.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/15-musthave-free-apps-mac/





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You might also find some of these useful.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/15-musthave-free-apps-mac/
That's a better list then some of the others I've seen. Thanks.

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That's a better list then some of the others I've seen. Thanks.
I use my mbp as my primary computer, running XP within fusion. I striped my xp install down to 4.2gb, I do all my work from it when I need to remotely login to a customer server.

Windows Remote Desktop on a Mac sucks imo. I use CoRD.

Here is my app folder.


VLC, Perian, Flip4Mac, Toast Titanium, AppCleaner, UnRarX, Coconut Battery, iStat, i'm sure there are more but those are some apps I recommend. Also get an SSD, with a 160GB intel ssd in mine OS X boots up in about 9 seconds, apps open on one bounce. Its the shit, but I am a strong supporter of ssd's. If your gonna torrent on your mac, use uTorrent also, Transmission isn't as good imo.

Multiclutch is pretty awesome for gestures.

Hot Corners are a must for spaces, expose, and screen saver also since there is no way to "lock" the desktop I have my screensaver hot cornered to the bottom left and it requires a password after 5 seconds.

MacRumors is a good forum to check out


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Better charge your battery Roliath.





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yeah flash reallllly kills this battery!
i have it "docked" now

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I can believe that. What are they using for the VM?

I don't think I'll run a single tough app for it. Just a bunch of little ones that add up.

I ask what is running its VM since I know there are at least 2 popular ones out there Parallels and VMWare Fusion. I chose Fusion for my own reasons, but I know some people swear by Parallels.
We have tried parrallels, fusion and bootcamp. bootcamp is more stable, but still crashes from time to time. Parrallels is nice, but it is slower. It runs great at first, but tends to start having unusual problems over time. I haven't had a chance to get any real opinions on fusion.
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Here's another option to try.

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads





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We have tried parrallels, fusion and bootcamp. bootcamp is more stable, but still crashes from time to time. Parrallels is nice, but it is slower. It runs great at first, but tends to start having unusual problems over time. I haven't had a chance to get any real opinions on fusion.
I have a few co-workers that run Parrallels and they swear its faster than Fusion. For my needs, I don't need speed I need stability.
Plus i'm not sure if Parrallels does this, but I know with Fusion you can boot your bootcamp partition if you need to access it.

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I figured out how to use multiple monitors with Fusion yesterday at work. My associates that use Parallels claim it is not doable (or they can't figure it out). Depending on what you do, that maybe a big deal.

For me, not being able to use multiple monitors (in the VM) almost had me giving up the Mac. Pretty easy in Fusion to do so, but I can't speak for the others.

I think they maybe right about Parallels being faster. It just SEEMED that way working with the other folks yesterday, but it's not like it is blazingly faster to me. Reliability is important to me as well. WTH is the point if it won't stay running for days on end?

Anyway, thanks so far for all the input and help.

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I figured out how to use multiple monitors with Fusion yesterday at work. My associates that use Parallels claim it is not doable (or they can't figure it out). Depending on what you do, that maybe a big deal.

For me, not being able to use multiple monitors (in the VM) almost had me giving up the Mac. Pretty easy in Fusion to do so, but I can't speak for the others.

I think they maybe right about Parallels being faster. It just SEEMED that way working with the other folks yesterday, but it's not like it is blazingly faster to me. Reliability is important to me as well. WTH is the point if it won't stay running for days on end?

Anyway, thanks so far for all the input and help.
How did you setup multimonitors and fusion?

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How did you setup multimonitors and fusion?
In the VM, the bar at the top. View -> Use all monitors

...or something similar. Works just like regular windows then. Multimon/ultramon work as well then too. Only thing is I still have not figured out a way to have say...

Screen A = Mac Stuff
Screen B = Windows VM

I mean, it can be done with Unity but it is not CLEAN. Sort of goofy.

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