Not sure about the 1.3 thing, but my 3rd gen Ipod Video has always worked fine with my 505.
Welcome to Alpine weirdness, Brent. Great units, but they can have the funkiest of little issues sometimes. I bet you'll get it all working though.
I don't have the answer to your question, because I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. How could you update the Ipod to 1.3 if you don't have Itunes? If you do have Itunes, I don't think you'll lose anything. I'm still learning, though. A year ago, I couldn't download a song onto my Ipod without help.
haha. I ran by AutoSound on my way back from FtW to see if it would work with one of the floor units. He sold the demo 900 he had, so I tried it with the 407. Same thing. Not recognized, no workie. Went in to the sound room, and hooked it up to one of the cheap Alpine units, and it worked like a charm. Strange. The cheap unit had an older ipod connector.
I called Alpine Tech on the way home, and the guy on the phone said it should be compatible after looking at his list. He asked what version I was on (ipod version), and I looked and told him. He said something about the firewire only supporting 1.3 or newer, so that if I updated it, it should be fine.
I do have itunes. But it's on my laptop, and was just installed when I bought my iphone. So none of the music that is on this older ipod, is on this computer's hard drive, nor is it in itunes (on this computer). The computer all that old stuff was on, crashed. Hard drive is gone, so I can't get any of it back.
I'm trying to find a way to transfer the music that is already on this old ipod, to my new laptop. That way I can update the software (on the old ipod), and not worry about losing all the stuff on the old ipod. I think I may have found an answer though. Looks like a freeware program called ShareTunes will do what I need it to do.