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Any sleep experts here?

My computer will not sleep automatically. I have it set to sleep after 20 minutes, but it never does. I can set it to sleep manually with no problems. Here is my powercfg report...any help would be appreciated. The 2 services: "arXfrSvc" and "MsMpSvc" are Windows Home Server console and Microsoft Security Essentials. I have disabled both to no avail.

Power Efficiency Diagnostics Report
Computer Name KEITH-HTPC
Scan Time 2009-12-04T16:14:58Z
Scan Duration 60 seconds
System Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
System Product Name GN637AV-ABA m9000t
BIOS Date 10/24/2007
BIOS Version 5.13
OS Build 7600
Platform Role PlatformRoleDesktop
Plugged In true
Process Count 52
Thread Count 700
Report GUID {3c03b953-dd63-4d49-b2e8-631fe8d0101f}

Analysis Results
Errors
Power Policy: Display timeout disabled (Plugged In)
The display is not configured to turn off after a period of inactivity.
Power Policy:USB Selective Suspend is disabled (Plugged In)
The current power policy has globally disabled USB selective suspend.
System Availability Requests: Display Required Request
The program has made a request to prevent the display from automatically entering a low-power mode.
Requesting Process \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\RealVNC\VNC4\winvnc4.exe

System Availability Requests:System Required Request
The service has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
Requesting Service arXfrSvc

System Availability Requests:System Required Request
The service has made a request to prevent the system from automatically entering sleep.
Requesting Service MsMpSvc

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Composite Device
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 3
Device ID USB\VID_03F0&PID_0F0C
Port Path 1

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name Generic USB Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_05E3&PID_0608
Port Path 6

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Mass Storage Device
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_0BDA&PID_0151
Port Path 6,2

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name eHome Infrared Receiver (USBCIR)
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_147A&PID_E018
Port Path 6,1

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2938
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2938
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2937
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2937
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_293C
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2934
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2934
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2935
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 1
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2935
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2939
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 3
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2939
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2936
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 2
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_2936
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Root Hub
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_8086&PID_293A
Port Path

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name ATI TV Wonder Digital Cable Tuner
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293A
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 29, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_1002&PID_A636
Port Path 8

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Wireless 802.11 b/g Adaptor
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_293C
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 26, function 7
Device ID USB\VID_15A9&PID_0004
Port Path 4

Platform Power Management Capabilities:ACPI _PSD Object Failed Validation
There is a problem with the definition of the ACPI _PSD object on this computer. Installing the latest system firmware (BIOS) may resolve this issue.
Group 0
Index 0

Platform Power Management Capabilities:ACPI _PSD Object Failed Validation
There is a problem with the definition of the ACPI _PSD object on this computer. Installing the latest system firmware (BIOS) may resolve this issue.
Group 0
Index 1

Warnings
Power Policy:802.11 Radio Power Policy is Maximum Performance (Plugged In)
The current power policy for 802.11-compatible wireless network adapters is not configured to use low-power modes.
Information
Platform Timer Resolution:Platform Timer Resolution
The default platform timer resolution is 15.6ms (15625000ns) and should be used whenever the system is idle. If the timer resolution is increased, processor power management technologies may not be effective. The timer resolution may be increased due to multimedia playback or graphical animations.
Current Timer Resolution (100ns units) 156000

Power Policy:Active Power Plan
The current power plan in use
Plan Name OEM Balanced
Plan GUID {381b4222-f694-41f0-9685-ff5bb260df2e}

Power Policy:Power Plan Personality (Plugged In)
The personality of the current power plan when the system is plugged in.
Personality Balanced

Power Policy:Video quality (Plugged In)
Enables Windows Media Player to optimize for quality or power savings when playing video.
Quality Mode Optimize for Video Quality

CPU Utilization:Processor utilization is low
The average processor utilization during the trace was very low. The system will consume less power when the average processor utilization is very low.
Average Utilization (%) 0.74

Battery:Analysis Success
Analysis was successful. No energy efficiency problems were found. No information was returned.
Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States
Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states.
S1 Sleep Supported true
S2 Sleep Supported false
S3 Sleep Supported true
S4 Sleep Supported true

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 0
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 0

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Processor Power Management Capabilities
Effective processor power management enables the computer to automatically balance performance and energy consumption.
Group 0
Index 1
Idle (C) State Count 1
Performance (P) State Count 2
Throttle (T) State Count 0
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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-04-2009, 01:49 PM
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have you tried unplugging all those extra usb devices like your cable tuner, external hd, usb hub, etc?

edit... looks like this is your home theater pc. i'm willing to bet it's that VNC client that you have running. is a tv plugged in? what type of connection (vga, dvi, etc)? maybe the tv you have connected doesn't have a low power mode and that's preventing it.

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have you tried unplugging all those extra usb devices like your cable tuner, external hd, usb hub, etc?

edit... looks like this is your home theater pc. i'm willing to bet it's that VNC client that you have running. is a tv plugged in? what type of connection (vga, dvi, etc)? maybe the tv you have connected doesn't have a low power mode and that's preventing it.
It is a HTPC. I have my Panasonic 42" Plasma connected to it via HDMI.

Ok...a few minutes ago I actually went into the services and stopped both MSSE and my Home Server Processes. It went to sleep. Now I restarted MSSE, lets see if it goes back to sleep or not.
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Well..it wasn't Microsoft Security Essentials....I think it may be the TV Archiving in Power Pack 3 of Windows Home Server.
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Why do you want it to sleep anyway? It is very bad on the HDs to do this..Easy way to compare it is ..Start your car up on a cold morning and rev the hell out of it..Basically what you do when you bring a computer out of sleep mode and your HD starts to spin like mad.

To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
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I am gone at work all day, so there is no sense in having the computer running. I only use that computer at night when I watch TV.
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its quite common for usb mice to cause these problems ( wireless ). microsoft has a fix for this.

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I am gone at work all day, so there is no sense in having the computer running. I only use that computer at night when I watch TV.
Turn it off?

To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
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Turn it off?
Since it is my HTPC, I don't want to turn it off, since it records my TV shows. If the computer is asleep, it will wake up to record tv, then go back to sleep.
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Why do you want it to sleep anyway? It is very bad on the HDs to do this..Easy way to compare it is ..Start your car up on a cold morning and rev the hell out of it..Basically what you do when you bring a computer out of sleep mode and your HD starts to spin like mad.
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Why do you want it to sleep anyway? It is very bad on the HDs to do this..Easy way to compare it is ..Start your car up on a cold morning and rev the hell out of it..Basically what you do when you bring a computer out of sleep mode and your HD starts to spin like mad.


I have a hard time believing this. Do you have any thing to back this up other then hard drives are like engines? I've had way more hard drive failures from computers that are on constantly or turned on/off than I've had in the last 5 years of letting my computers go to sleep.

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Why do you want it to sleep anyway? It is very bad on the HDs to do this..Easy way to compare it is ..Start your car up on a cold morning and rev the hell out of it..Basically what you do when you bring a computer out of sleep mode and your HD starts to spin like mad.
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I have a hard time believing this. Do you have any thing to back this up other then hard drives are like engines? I've had way more hard drive failures from computers that are on constantly or turned on/off than I've had in the last 5 years of letting my computers go to sleep.
I'm curious myself since I've never heard this before.





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*simple version* When you turn a computer on it loads slower and more organized way, but when you put it to sleep it saves everything that is in memory to a file on your hard drive. When you bring it out of sleep it rushes to load everything on that file all at once causing your HD to spin like crazy. Which in turn can cause HD failure much quicker.

To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
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*simple version* When you turn a computer on it loads slower and more organized way, but when you put it to sleep it saves everything that is in memory to a file on your hard drive. When you bring it out of sleep it rushes to load everything on that file all at once causing your HD to spin like crazy. Which in turn can cause HD failure much quicker.
You have sleep mode confused with hibernation. Sleep mode shuts down power to processor and hard drives and extra devices but keep power to the RAM. It does not need to read anything from a hard drive coming out of sleep.

Hibernation mode, however, does actually shut down you computer, but writes your memory to the HD. When it starts up it reads all that data from the HD back to memory.

There is also hybrid sleep which writes all memory to the HD but maintains power to your RAM. This way when it comes out of sleep it doesn't need to read anything unless you had a power failure while it was in hybrid sleep.

That is all for windows and depending on your BIOS version depends on which types of sleep modes you can pick from.

If we are talking about a Mac then it always does safe sleep. Which is basically hybrid sleep.

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