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Building a new machine, help a mofo out.

I have assembled this list of parts for a new machine. I need someone who really knows for sure what the hell they are looking at to look it over and let me know if I am making any sort of mistakes. I also need a recommendation for a hard drive around $100.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103696

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131398

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102849

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

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Either of these w/ the Seagate being just a tad faster on I/O transfer.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152102


I have the Samsung and have gotten as high as 101megs x-fer but a consistent 91-96megs.





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Get a 5 series ATI card, the 4 series is a waste of money. The new 5 series is DX11 compatible, it's the very first set of cards that are, nvidia doesn't even have DX11 cards out. If you get that 4 series, it will be out of date in 6 months.

Your system is similar to mine, I have an AMD Phenom II 965 black edition processor, running on an MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 motherboard. It performs well, but the weakest point is my harddrive (seagate barracuda 1.5TB) and my 8800GTX - about to upgrade to the 5870.

The best thing to happen to computers in the last 10 years has been SSD's. IF you have some serious scrilla, look into them and ditch harddrives all together. It's probably the biggest performance boost I've ever seen on a computer.
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Get a 5 series ATI card, the 4 series is a waste of money. The new 5 series is DX11 compatible, it's the very first set of cards that are, nvidia doesn't even have DX11 cards out. If you get that 4 series, it will be out of date in 6 months.

Your system is similar to mine, I have an AMD Phenom II 965 black edition processor, running on an MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 motherboard. It performs well, but the weakest point is my harddrive (seagate barracuda 1.5TB) and my 8800GTX - about to upgrade to the 5870.

The best thing to happen to computers in the last 10 years has been SSD's. IF you have some serious scrilla, look into them and ditch harddrives all together. It's probably the biggest performance boost I've ever seen on a computer.
That's what my computer freak friend said is the hard drives are the slowest part now days.

That is a nice set up though. It will whistle until install time. lol.

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I dunno if I can afford the solid state drive right now. As far as the video card, is there a 5 series that has similar or better specs for around the same $$$ ?

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I dunno if I can afford the solid state drive right now. As far as the video card, is there a 5 series that has similar or better specs for around the same $$$ ?

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Either of these but I'd pony up the extra money for the XFX. If you go 5 series and are trying to stay @ a certain price point, these will get it done so look for the models w/ the highest core/memory speeds and the highest shader count. They'll perform better.

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what about this one for a video card?

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Not to thread hijack, but I am thinking about this as well. How will my current windows xp react if I swap the mb, cpu, memory, and video card? I am assuming I just need to load some drivers when xp comes up.

This maybe a dumb question, but I have been out of the computer world for a while. Do the new mb's still support ide? I am assuming they still do.
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That would work. Like I said about the XFX, it has a lifetime warranty so if you toast it from OC'in it, they'll replace it. Otherwise, they're identical, spec wise.





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Not to thread hijack, but I am thinking about this as well. How will my current windows xp react if I swap the mb, cpu, memory, and video card? I am assuming I just need to load some drivers when xp comes up.

This maybe a dumb question, but I have been out of the computer world for a while. Do the new mb's still support ide? I am assuming they still do.
You'll have to reload windows since your "activation" is tied to the mobo and yes they still support IDE, just make sure that an IDE connection is listed in the specs.





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You'll have to reload windows since your "activation" is tied to the mobo and yes they still support IDE, just make sure that an IDE connection is listed in the specs.
So I am looking at a complete rebuild then? I don't have the windows xp setup disc anymore.
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So I am looking at a complete rebuild then? I don't have the windows xp setup disc anymore.
Do you know what version you're using and is it OEM or retail?





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Do you know what version you're using and is it OEM or retail?
Not quite sure of any of that. I know it has service pack 2. I got it from, umm, a friend. Sorry, I should say, I built this comp from scratch. So it is not a dell, hp, etc.
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Gimmea a call and well figure out which version you have.

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Not till tonight. I will take a look at it tonight. How can you distinguish the retail version from OEM. I am thinking it is OEM.
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You'll have to reload windows since your "activation" is tied to the mobo and yes they still support IDE, just make sure that an IDE connection is listed in the specs.
no, you don't have to reload windows because of a hardware change, you just have to re activate with the new hardware. Their policy is you cannot have two computers running on the same serial. It's time to upgrade from XP if you decided to update your system. Look into windows 7.

I will tell you though that XP is not as flexible as Vista or w7 when it comes to vast hardware changes. From my experience with XP, it will usually cause instability if not a complete inability to boot into windows. It doesn't take kindly to big hardware changes as easily as Vista or w7.
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I could drop a few extra bucks on something like this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139006

I do not need a large hard drive for every day use as I have another drive I keep things that take up a lot of space.

what kind of speed difference am I looking at if I get this as to the ones that are linked earlier in the thread?

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no, you don't have to reload windows because of a hardware change, you just have to re activate with the new hardware. Their policy is you cannot have two computers running on the same serial. It's time to upgrade from XP if you decided to update your system. Look into windows 7.

I will tell you though that XP is not as flexible as Vista or w7 when it comes to vast hardware changes. From my experience with XP, it will usually cause instability if not a complete inability to boot into windows. It doesn't take kindly to big hardware changes as easily as Vista or w7
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This is what I am afraid of. Plus, I don't want to shell out alot of money for windows 7.
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This is what I am afraid of. Plus, I don't want to shell out alot of money for windows 7.
It's worth the money.
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I could drop a few extra bucks on something like this...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820139006

I do not need a large hard drive for every day use as I have another drive I keep things that take up a lot of space.

what kind of speed difference am I looking at if I get this as to the ones that are linked earlier in the thread?
I haven't seen any previous SSD's posted. An SSD will blow away a harddrive 3 times over in speed. However, I have to warn you about getting such a small SSD... you have to take into account the size of modern OS's, your temporary download folders, caches, and essential applications you will want to install in your program files directory. My own personal opinion is why get an SSD if you can't enjoy it's speed with the programs or games you play the most often? Right now I think they're a little too pricey for the volume. But, don't get me wrong, an SSD is lightning fast compared to even the fastest 10k rpm performance drives (which also are not very large).

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cant buy the drive by itself, its part of a combo package. If this is a good deal I am going to pick it up. Let me know asap please.... I want to order tonight

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...t=Combo.276585

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The price is good but I'm not sure about Kingston and their SSD quality.





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The price is good but I'm not sure about Kingston and their SSD quality.
I kinda read the same thing...... I like this one but its pricey.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016

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I kinda read the same thing...... I like this one but its pricey.....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016
Those are one of the better available ATM. Here's a review from Maximum PC.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/rev..._160gb_mlc_ssd The one you linked is the 80gig, I used this article for comparo.





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I just bought the 80g version. My PC now has a 80gb hard drive and I rarely have issues with space. Now for my next question.... who wants to help me build it?

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Lemme know when you want to build it. You can call me if you'd like and we can work out the details.





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This is what I wound up with....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102860

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103696

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131398

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167016

I left the ram off, prolly gonna pick it up local. I hope this thing flys... it shouldn't be a slouch by any means. I had to change up the video card. Was sold out by the time I ordered. The one I picked I cant tell a difference in the specs besides the price tag is a little more which I thought was weird since it is the same brand.....

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That's a nice configuration. It should fly. Were you gonna stay w/ the stock air cooler or get an after market? The reason I ask is those chips OC like a mad man and you won't wanna take it very far on stock air.





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Yeah I do not know much about that stuff. I do not want to push it real hard. I think I picked out good enough stuff that it should do ok without pushing it to the limits. I do not care about benchmarking it or crap like that I just want a pretty quick daily driver machine out of this that I can play a few games on that will last a long time. So to anwser your question I was planning on running on stock air but could upgrade if you think I really need to. Like I said I dont know squat about OC a puter so I am hesitant to push it but that is only because I am uninformed.

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TBH, you really shouldn't need to. If you decide you wanna OC in the future, then I'd definitely invest in a good after market cooler.





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Did someone in this thread call me on my phone? I'm pretty sure they did.

Good choice on hardware, everything is good in that selection. Best choice was the intel SSD, that is one of the fastest SSD's on the market.
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Did someone in this thread call me on my phone? I'm pretty sure they did.

Good choice on hardware, everything is good in that selection. Best choice was the intel SSD, that is one of the fastest SSD's on the market.
Yes I did, was needing some decision help on the video card.

On another note, what are they referring to when they are talking about "trim" with this drive.

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New machine rocks and windows 7 ultimate is pretty damn cool as well. This thing is a rocket ship!

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