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Thumbs up DD-WRT Firmware = 100% signal strength

I have a Linksys WRT54GS v7.2 router that I use in lieu of the crap FIOS Actiontec MI424 router. The Linksys is a good problem free router, but I didn't like the limited options available in the Linksys GUI. I also didn't like how my laptop beyond 20 or 30 ft. would severely drop off in signal strength. I also have a wireless desktop in a bedroom at 45+ft. and it would connect at a 65% - 70% signal strength. I was reading about how supposedly how bad ass open source firmware like Tomato or DD-WRT was. Reports of increased signal strength with control over transmitting power and a significantly more elaborate GUI. The firmware upgrade is a free option, so I went with that over spending a bunch of money on new equipment. If I bricked the router, oh well, it's just an experiment.

All I can say is WOW!

Not only is the DD-WRT GUI have a zillion more features, but the signal strength on all of my wireless machines is 100% using WPA Personal encryption. Sitting on my deck in the back yard the signal strength is 92-95%. The signal strength anywhere in the house is 100%. I can move files through the network from pc to pc about 20% faster with less latency. And it never drops connection.

Going into this I was thinking people were exaggerating and that the Linksys WRT54GS was a marginal router at best. The damn thing only has a 2MB flash. And the router even has the original smallish antennas. And that additional transmit power is not appearing to overheat the router. It's barely warm to the touch.

DD-WRT website: http://www.dd-wrt.com/dd-wrtv3/index.php The only downside here is if you screw up the firmware upgrade you will brick your router. It does involve multiple steps.

This screen shot is my desktop about 45 ft. from the router through a couple of walls. The second shot is of the DD-WRT GUI loaded on my router with too many options to even list.




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so wheres the steps? I'd rather not brick it. I can only find the .bin file. never messed with ddwrt. Be gentle, this is my first time.
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My router isn't supported?

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so wheres the steps? I'd rather not brick it. I can only find the .bin file. never messed with ddwrt. Be gentle, this is my first time.
The instructions should be a link located on the software download page for your particular model. At least it was in my case. Otherwise, you will need to look on their forums for instructions for your model. http://www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/index.php?c=3

And here is the page to recover from bricking your router. Won't work in all cases or for all routers. http://dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Rec...om_a_Bad_Flash

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Weird. It looks like version 3,4, and 8 are supported.

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Weird. It looks like version 3,4, and 8 are supported.

LMFAO! My fucking luck! Hunt4m3x, are you reading this?


A quick google said that there are no open source firmwares for v5.
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I FUCKING TOLD YOU GET A WRT54GL. NO DON"T LISTEN TO ME.. a

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just saw your last post, DUMB ASS.

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just saw your last post, DUMB ASS.

I ordered one, but buy.com canceled the order for some reason. I have to order a new one Friday afternoon.
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I ordered one, but buy.com canceled the order for some reason. I have to order a new one Friday afternoon.
Don't know what they were going for on Buy.com but there are plenty available on eBay already loaded up with DD-WRT to save a little time and trouble (and chance for bricking the router). Just a thought anyway.




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Don't know what they were going for on Buy.com but there are plenty available on eBay already loaded up with DD-WRT to save a little time and trouble (and chance for bricking the router). Just a thought anyway.
That is true. Knowing luis's luck, he would brick it!

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WRT54GL on order now through newegg.
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I have a WRT 150N....My 54 was always had problems. Great router with a nice GUI also has Qos for my IP phone.
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You could have done a search on eBay for DD-WRT How much did the router from Newegg run you?
The ebay ads were aready at $70+ plus shipping, and I got it for $64 free shipping through newegg. hunt4m3x will do the upgrade on my router.
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The router came in, and I'm at 100% signal without the open source firmware.
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The router came in, and I'm at 100% signal without the open source firmware.
100% signal up to what distance? Mine stays 100% up to about 50ft going through several walls. With this DD-WRT you can almost put your laptop in your car drive to the around the block and stay connected.

However, if it's not broke then don't fix it.

My signal strength sucked with the Linksys firmware.

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100% signal up to what distance? Mine stays 100% up to about 50ft going through several walls. With this DD-WRT you can almost put your laptop in your car drive to the around the block and stay connected.

However, if it's not broke then don't fix it.

My signal strength sucked with the Linksys firmware.
I have 100% throughout my entire apartment. I'll leave the firmware as is. I don't care to have signal outside.
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The reason why yours sucked is it runs that new shitty ass OS viox or whatever. The older ones ran linux which is commie GOD. GL runs linux. Linksys should make a windows verison, fucking would be EPIC

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So how do you configure a local LAN ethernet address?
Local area connection/Properties/Internet protocol(theres a V6 and V4 listed as internet protocol.Which one?)/
then which one do I set to 192.168.1.100?IP address,DNS ?
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So how do you configure a local LAN ethernet address?
Local area connection/Properties/Internet protocol(theres a V6 and V4 listed as internet protocol.Which one?)/
then which one do I set to 192.168.1.100?IP address,DNS ?
I'm assuming that you have the DD-WRT firmware since you posted this question here.

IP4 is the dominant internet protocol for the time being.

Not knowing your ISP or what router you have, I'll just give you a screenshot of my set up. You should be able to mirror it. I have Verizon FIOS and I have my router set to be WAN Auto DHCP enabled, which takes care of your Router IP, Subnet, Gateway, and DNS. Your network settings will be DHCP Type: Server | Enabled.



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I'm assuming that you have the DD-WRT firmware since you posted this question here.

IP4 is the dominant internet protocol for the time being.

Not knowing your ISP or what router you have, I'll just give you a screenshot of my set up. You should be able to mirror it. I have Verizon FIOS and I have my router set to be WAN Auto DHCP enabled, which takes care of your Router IP, Subnet, Gateway, and DNS. Your network settings will be DHCP Type: Server | Enabled.
Iv got the firmware downloaded but I havent uploaded it to the router. The step by step said tha I needed to change my local are connection before trying to install the firmware on the router. I have a linksys wrt54gs V7
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Wl I did the DD-WRT upgrade, and I love the new tools that it has. I'm particularly fond of the real time bandwidth monitor. I'm streaming Blue Ray from my PC to the PS3, and i'm getting between 6 and 8 MBPS upload. I changed the signal from 70 to 110, and changed the overclock to 216 from 200 (lowest available value). So far im not getting ANY hiccups from the video streaming.
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Wl I did the DD-WRT upgrade, and I love the new tools that it has. I'm particularly fond of the real time bandwidth monitor. I'm streaming Blue Ray from my PC to the PS3, and i'm getting between 6 and 8 MBPS upload. I changed the signal from 70 to 110, and changed the overclock to 216 from 200 (lowest available value). So far im not getting ANY hiccups from the video streaming.
Yep, it's damn good firmware.

Be aware that ramping up the transmit power can make it run hot. This can shorten the lifespan of the router. Make sure it's well ventilated. Some guys even go as far as fabricating a 80mm PC fan to the housing.

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Wl I did the DD-WRT upgrade, and I love the new tools that it has. I'm particularly fond of the real time bandwidth monitor. I'm streaming Blue Ray from my PC to the PS3, and i'm getting between 6 and 8 MBPS upload. I changed the signal from 70 to 110, and changed the overclock to 216 from 200 (lowest available value). So far im not getting ANY hiccups from the video streaming.
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Yep, it's damn good firmware.

Be aware that ramping up the transmit power can make it run hot. This can cause shorten the lifespan of the router. Make sure it's well ventilated. Some guys even go as far as fabricating a 80mm PC fan to the housing.
I havan't noticed any heat differences yet. I think it's doing well.
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Well I got it installed and I bumped my transmit power to 215 but other than that I have no clue as to what other setting to change. Any suggestions?
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Guys....increasing your transmit power to 200mW+ is not necessarily a good thing.

I have mine set at 84mW and all of my wireless devices around the house are at or near 100% signal strength. Cranking up your transmit power can have deleterious side effects such as ACK timing problems, overheating, shortening the router's lifespan, reliability issues over time, and mainly increased transmit errors. And in terms of overclocking, that's a debatable issue. My experience has been it makes a computer unstable, especially with inadequate cooling of the processor. Overclocking a router is the same principle. I had a friend do that trying to game all night long and he had to reboot the router 3 times. And it wasn't caused from clogged ports.

You don't just arbitrarily turn up all of the values just because you have the option to do so. You will get to the point where it becomes self-defeating, especially if you have a lot of transmit errors that will degrade throughput.

Here is a good section to read for those new to open source firmware.

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I'm having lots of TX (transmit) errors.

Try setting the ACK Timing to 0. If you have the transmit power turned up higher than 84 mW, turn it down to 84 mW. Other things that may contribute to a lower error rate: set beacon interval lower than the default of 100 (75, for example), use a different channel (aka frequency) for wireless (so not to clash with other 2.4 GHz devices). Use a better antenna than the stock antenna your device comes with, this actually helps you more than increasing output power as this option increases both output and sensitivity at the same time.
[edit] How high should I set the transmit power on my router?

Somewhere around 84 mW is considered to be the best setting for maximum power with minimum noise for most hardware. The Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 has a built-in amplifier. The amplifier is turned on by default; the radio power should not be set above 10mW (on v23SP2), or 70mW (on v24). The forums have had discussions about what power level is safe, with little consensus. Use common sense and don't set the power higher than you really need to. If you're trying to get more range, consider using a different antenna and make sure you have a clear line of sight, two of the most critical factors in your router's range.

From a network security standpoint, the transmitter power level should be just enough to cover the intended area reliably. Optimal power settings can be determined by trial-and-error.
[edit] How can I increase my wireless range?

Many factors affect your range. What method you use to extend your range will depend on whether you are trying to increase the range inside a building or outside. Read the next two FAQs below.

Consider getting a good antenna and try setting up your wireless devices with a clear line of sight. Best range is achieved by using one directional parabolic dish or Yagi antenna and then disabling the other antenna on your router. For a cheap easy antenna option, try www.freeantennas.com. This site details how to make a directional antenna from household items which can result in 10 db or more in gain. For situations where you need omnidirectional distance instead of directional linking, be sure to use a good omnidirectional antenna and mount it high enough to broadcast signal in the area of focus. This is often 20 to 50 feet high, depending on the rated signal downturn of the antenna. This means how steep of an angle the donut of radiated signal is pitched down from the vertically-mounted antenna.

Also, try increasing your router's transmit power to 84 mW (unless you have a Buffalo with a built-in amplifier). DD-WRT also has settings for frame burst and afterburner. You may see an increase in range by turning these off. If you are mostly interested in Internet access, then 802.11b (as opposed to 802.11g) has longer range and may actually give you faster Internet speeds in long-range, low-signal situations.

Note: If you are using encrypted communication such as WPA, you can not use "802.11b Only" mode with WDS. If you are using unencrypted communication, "802.11b Only" mode will work for WDS. WPA encryption via WDS will only work if "Mixed" or "802.11 g Only" modes are set for WDS. "WPA Pre-shared Key" with "AES" encryption is the only currently known WPA encryption model to work with WDS setup.

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And again, just because your router can to x power on tx/rx does not mean the host can. So the host may report that it is receiving a strong as hell signal, but that sure as shit does not mean it can tx at that level.

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I changed my numbers tomatch what mustangman posted. Works great!
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