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Network Storage (NAS) recommendations

Looking at getting an external drive in the 1TB capacity that I could access from any computer on my network. I wanted something more than simply an external drive, I'd like to have it network accessible as well as have an automated backup feature and RAID 1. Any recommendations or thoughts?




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I use these bitches at work. You can get a bare one and put your own drives in.

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Stor...adyNASPro.aspx

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http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/c...7wr!1361592292

Much more than a NAS but worth a look. You can build your own just get an OEM copy from Fry's and put it on an old PC with lots of drives and you have a home server.

Backs up other home computers.
Access your files from the internet.
Lots of free add ins to manage music, video, TV recordings, and photo collections.

I built one using an old P4 3.0Ghz added a couple of 1Tb drives (Raid1 SATA) and purchased the OEM media. Total price for my setup is close to 400 not counting the old pc. I think it could be done cheaper now that 1TB drives have dropped in price. You can use any data storage device as well; SATA, IDE, USB, NAS etc.
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What's the price range and are ya sure you don't want RAID 5? RAID 1, Terabyte is going to suck balls as far as waste of HDDs go.

I chose the Buffalo Terastation a long time ago. Not the greatest, but I'm a bang for the buck kind of person and the Terastation was on sale at the time. Slow as balls but fairly reliable so far. Dell, HP, WD, Seagate and so forth all put out good versions as well as the Netgear and Linksys folks.

Recommend determining your price range and doing a little reading on devices in that range on sites like...

http://reviews.cnet.com/1770-5_7-0.h...y=nas&tag=srch

There are NAS specific sites out there where you'll learn a little something about Network Attached Storage.

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http://www.shopping.hp.com/product/c...7wr!1361592292

Much more than a NAS but worth a look. You can build your own just get an OEM copy from Fry's and put it on an old PC with lots of drives and you have a home server.

Backs up other home computers.
Access your files from the internet.
Lots of free add ins to manage music, video, TV recordings, and photo collections.

I built one using an old P4 3.0Ghz added a couple of 1Tb drives (Raid1 SATA) and purchased the OEM media. Total price for my setup is close to 400 not counting the old pc. I think it could be done cheaper now that 1TB drives have dropped in price. You can use any data storage device as well; SATA, IDE, USB, NAS etc.
This looks really cool. Never had even heard of Windows Home Server. How much was it?
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Realistically, I'd like to keep the price below $300 and willing to lose the network capability as long as it has backup and RAID 1.

This is probably what I'm going to get. 1TB, RAID 1, with Backup capability and a tad over $200.

Western Digital 1TB My Book® Mirror Edition™


I really liked the Windows Home Server option but to expensive for me right now. Maybe making my own might be an option but I'd really need to see what the system requirements are. The Netgear option is nice but WAY out of my price range. One option I saw (and very feasible) is setting up an old box to run FreeNAS. Anyone ever use it before?




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Looking at getting an external drive in the 1TB capacity that I could access from any computer on my network. I wanted something more than simply an external drive, I'd like to have it network accessible as well as have an automated backup feature and RAID 1. Any recommendations or thoughts?
Are you going to use this to backup your Mac with Time Machine?

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Realistically, I'd like to keep the price below $300 and willing to lose the network capability as long as it has backup and RAID 1.

This is probably what I'm going to get. 1TB, RAID 1, with Backup capability and a tad over $200.

Western Digital 1TB My Book® Mirror Edition™


I really liked the Windows Home Server option but to expensive for me right now. Maybe making my own might be an option but I'd really need to see what the system requirements are. The Netgear option is nice but WAY out of my price range. One option I saw (and very feasible) is setting up an old box to run FreeNAS. Anyone ever use it before?
I use freenas in a VM on my infosec/hacking box and like it.

Its an isolated machine behind a 2nd internal router so I'm segmented off from my home network. I use it for testing exploits, hacking, pen tests etc. I run a few vm's at a time and one of them is running for freenas that I use to dump/share files between the vm's

Very robust and lots of features for free. You could run the app/OS off a thumb drive and use your hard drives for the data.

For the rest of my network I just have a win2k3 server with 4 x 500gb in RAID5 that all the home pcs back up to. Its also running SQL and some other apps.

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I use freenas in a VM on my infosec/hacking box and like it.

Its an isolated machine behind a 2nd internal router so I'm segmented off from my home network. I use it for testing exploits, hacking, pen tests etc.
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I use freenas in a VM on my infosec/hacking box and like it.

Its an isolated machine behind a 2nd internal router so I'm segmented off from my home network. I use it for testing exploits, hacking, pen tests etc. I run a few vm's at a time and one of them is running for freenas that I use to dump/share files between the vm's

Very robust and lots of features for free. You could run the app/OS off a thumb drive and use your hard drives for the data.

For the rest of my network I just have a win2k3 server with 4 x 500gb in RAID5 that all the home pcs back up to. Its also running SQL and some other apps.
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Flys has an Iomega 3TB Store Center Pro that supports RAID 0,0+1,5>gigabit ethernet & 4 USB 2.0 ports for $499.
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Jose,

I have the My Book World Edition II on my home network and I'll tell ya, the software is a annoying. In order to access it, you have to install their software which is basically, Mionet.

From time to time, when I try and connect to the drive, it shows as offline even though its not. The only way I have found so far to regain access is to either reboot my laptop or power cycle the WD drive.

It also limits the types of files you can share. There's a whole list of restricted files, including MP3. You can get around this by using the same ID on multiple computers but that kinda defeats the purpose of security.

The light rings on the front are annoying. They light up a room at night. If you drive up in front of my house, you can tell where the office is.

On the positive side, I installed Mionet on my work laptop so I can copy files to and from my house from the office.

I installed the backup software and it works as designed but I still haven't been able to register it. It wont accept my serial number and it cant find the network attached storage.

On a scale of 1-5, I'd give this thing about a 2...

If I think of anything else, I'll post it...

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Gee Dan, I would've thought for sure you'd have a Dell solution at your house.

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Are you going to use this to backup your Mac with Time Machine?
I'd like to but not a priority right now. I'm not keeping anything on my MacBook that's important and needs backing up. Mainly I'm wanting to be able to move all my photos, music and other important documents off my main computer and have it on a backup drive with RAID 1 protection.


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I use freenas in a VM on my infosec/hacking box and like it.

Its an isolated machine behind a 2nd internal router so I'm segmented off from my home network. I use it for testing exploits, hacking, pen tests etc. I run a few vm's at a time and one of them is running for freenas that I use to dump/share files between the vm's

Very robust and lots of features for free. You could run the app/OS off a thumb drive and use your hard drives for the data.

For the rest of my network I just have a win2k3 server with 4 x 500gb in RAID5 that all the home pcs back up to. Its also running SQL and some other apps.
Ideally, this is the route I'd like to take. Not only for the experience but having the ability to upgrade to multiple drives "cheaply". I may have an old computer to do the job so I may be posting up soon about this.

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Flys has an Iomega 3TB Store Center Pro that supports RAID 0,0+1,5>gigabit ethernet & 4 USB 2.0 ports for $499.
You're a DFWStangs eleventybillionair so thaat should fit your budget.
Shit, I'm not that balling. I was hoping to get away with a couple of hundred dollars for a 1TB RAID 1 setup.

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Jose,

I have the My Book World Edition II on my home network and I'll tell ya, the software is a annoying. In order to access it, you have to install their software which is basically, Mionet.

From time to time, when I try and connect to the drive, it shows as offline even though its not. The only way I have found so far to regain access is to either reboot my laptop or power cycle the WD drive.

It also limits the types of files you can share. There's a whole list of restricted files, including MP3. You can get around this by using the same ID on multiple computers but that kinda defeats the purpose of security.

The light rings on the front are annoying. They light up a room at night. If you drive up in front of my house, you can tell where the office is.

On the positive side, I installed Mionet on my work laptop so I can copy files to and from my house from the office.

I installed the backup software and it works as designed but I still haven't been able to register it. It wont accept my serial number and it cant find the network attached storage.

On a scale of 1-5, I'd give this thing about a 2...

If I think of anything else, I'll post it...

Dan
Dammit that's not what I wanted to hear I'll keep looking at other options right now but I need to get something soon as I'm running out of HD space on my main box that has a 320GB HD.

I'm willing to give up the NAS and Backup features but I want 1TB RAID1 for protection of the data.




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Dammit that's not what I wanted to hear I'll keep looking at other options right now but I need to get something soon as I'm running out of HD space on my main box that has a 320GB HD.

I'm willing to give up the NAS and Backup features but I want 1TB RAID1 for protection of the data.
I dont want to scare you away from WD. This unit it just a little annoying. I printed out the manual after I posted that, I'm going to see if I can do something to clean up the unit and quit bitching.

If you want the WD unit, get it but make sure you can take it back if it doesnt function right out of the box. I didnt pay for this unit. It was a gift so I couldnt really take it back.

On another note, if you already have a box, why not just buy two large hard drives and mirror them? You could buy a couple of these and have a mirrored 1TB system. I'm sure the computer nerd that posted above you knows some open source backup software you could use. It would give you everything you want and you wouldnt have to compromise.

Just a thought.
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I don't know if the My Book Home Edition will have the same issues as the World Edition listed above, but Micro has a 1TB version listed for 200 in today's mail circular.
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I dont want to scare you away from WD. This unit it just a little annoying. I printed out the manual after I posted that, I'm going to see if I can do something to clean up the unit and quit bitching.

If you want the WD unit, get it but make sure you can take it back if it doesnt function right out of the box. I didnt pay for this unit. It was a gift so I couldnt really take it back.

On another note, if you already have a box, why not just buy two large hard drives and mirror them? You could buy a couple of these and have a mirrored 1TB system. I'm sure the computer nerd that posted above you knows some open source backup software you could use. It would give you everything you want and you wouldnt have to compromise.

Just a thought.
I may go ahead and get a big 1TB external drive to back things up to and keep off the network. It would be easier than backing this stuff up to optical media and hopefully last longer. Plus I can do this cheaply.

I may go ahead and explore the Windows Home Server. I've got an extra box and I was reading on MS's website that I can download a 120 Day Trial Version to play around with it (I wonder how much it costs??!!). But I'll need to setup my old box with a pair of matching big HD's first I guess which won't be something I can easily do right now. I need to check out what the system requirements are for Home Server.

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I don't know if the My Book Home Edition will have the same issues as the World Edition listed above, but Micro has a 1TB version listed for 200 in today's mail circular.
I may check that out Bard. Do you know if they have circular online so I can see it? I guess I'll check out there website.




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