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the other thread got me thinking. i have a Dell Dimension 4400 and i think it has a 250W power supply. i play a few games online and off the HD. my specs are 2.0ghz, 1.25gb ram, a 40gb HD and i added a 256mb ATI Radeon 9550 video card. one game i play, my computer is better then the max specs it requires. sometimes this game runs really slow and spits and sputters. if i upgrade my power supply, would it run better? if so, what should i look at getting?

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If the psu is too small or weak you get reboots and bsod.

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the other thread got me thinking. i have a Dell Dimension 4400 and i think it has a 250W power supply. i play a few games online and off the HD. my specs are 2.0ghz, 1.25gb ram, a 40gb HD and i added a 256mb ATI Radeon 9550 video card. one game i play, my computer is better then the max specs it requires. sometimes this game runs really slow and spits and sputters. if i upgrade my power supply, would it run better? if so, what should i look at getting?
Doubtful. If it were lacking power to run everything, it would just shut down/reboot or kick you out of the game most likely. I would guess that something is hogging system memory on the times it runs slow. Sometimes windows is slow to let go of memory. Try a reboot.

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the other thread got me thinking. i have a Dell Dimension 4400 and i think it has a 250W power supply. i play a few games online and off the HD. my specs are 2.0ghz, 1.25gb ram, a 40gb HD and i added a 256mb ATI Radeon 9550 video card. one game i play, my computer is better then the max specs it requires. sometimes this game runs really slow and spits and sputters. if i upgrade my power supply, would it run better? if so, what should i look at getting?
It's not the power supply. Fired up a Dell PE2800 yesterday. Big mutha server (weighs 90lb) & it's drawing <3 Amps with 4GB, dual 3GH Xenon CPU's, a RAID controller, 4 SCSI320 disks & dual Gigabit NICs.

Your swap file should be 3GB and fixed size (minimum size same as maximum). D/L JKDefrag (http://kessels.nl/JkDefrag/index.html), unzip it & copy the .EXE's to C:\Windows\System32. You can run it by typing JKDefrag from Start | Run or use Windows Task Scheduler to run it periodically. Weekly should be often enough after the first couple of passes. If you don't know how to schedule tasks, hit F1 at the Desktop and search for Scheduler

If you don't see a substantial improvement, reply & I'll post a couple other things.

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^^^well, im not real computer savy and really don't understand that. i do know the basics. the game im playing is The Shield and it recommends Pentium D 2.0 or AMD Athlon 3200+/512mb/ 128mb video card. the online game is lagging alittle that i play also. i have AusLogics Disk Defrag on my computer right now. i will look for the one you suggested.

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a 2ghz p4 and a 9550 are rather underpowered to run most of the current games.

You might consider a low end dual core system and a higher end video card.

I'm using a 256mb 9700 on my vmserver and I wouldnt dare game on it even though it has 4gb ram and dual 3.6ghz xeons

My gaming rig is rather low budget

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a 2ghz p4 and a 9550 are rather underpowered to run most of the current games.

You might consider a low end dual core system and a higher end video card.

I'm using a 256mb 9700 on my vmserver and I wouldnt dare game on it even though it has 4gb ram and dual 3.6ghz xeons

My gaming rig is rather low budget

e2200 overclocked to 3ghz with an EVGA 8800gt 512mb video card

I can run most current games at a decent rate on a 22" @ 1680x1050
well, im not doing any serious gaming, just some old games. i do want a DC, but just can't afford one right now. this system im on i only paid $70 for it, sold my old computer for $50. in essence, i paid $20 for this Dell. im hoping in a couple months i can get me a cheap BYO DC of something.

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What factors need to be added together to determine how big of a power supply one would need? I've heard it's not about how many watts it puts out, but how many amps? I'm currently reworking a build plan but I'm not sure if what sort of PSU i'd need to run everything...

Thoughts on if this PSU will be enough?

GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
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EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
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Rosewill RG430-2 430W 80Plus Certified,ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.91, Active-PFC Power Supply, UL,FCC,CE,TUV,ROHS
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail

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Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
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Nice thing will be if this all works out together I'll have this for under $550

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What factors need to be added together to determine how big of a power supply one would need? I've heard it's not about how many watts it puts out, but how many amps? I'm currently reworking a build plan but I'm not sure if what sort of PSU i'd need to run everything...

Thoughts on if this PSU will be enough?

GIGABYTE GA-MA790GP-DS4H AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:GA-MA790GP-DS4H

EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card
Model #:256-P2-N751-TR


Rosewill RG430-2 430W 80Plus Certified,ATX12V v2.3/EPS12V v2.91, Active-PFC Power Supply, UL,FCC,CE,TUV,ROHS
Model #:RG430-2


AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KHX8500D2K2/4GR
Model #:KHX8500D2K2/4GR


SAMSUNG 20X DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model TS-H653N - OEM
Model #:TS-H653N

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #:ST3250310AS


Nice thing will be if this all works out together I'll have this for under $550
If your gonna spend all that don't go cheap on the PSU.

I've learned my lesson a long time ago cheap power supplies will take out a board, cpu, etc when they go.

I stick to name brands for power supplies.

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You can use this to figure psu size. http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine I would leave room to grow. I have a Antec Sonata III case that comes with a Earthwatts 500w psu. It runs e6600 oc to 3.6,4g ocz reaper ram,8800gt oc, and 4 120mm fans just fine.

Using the utility mine shows 347watts
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Ok so I'm going with a EVGA 512-P3-N971-TR GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card. Says it needs a 500w PSU, so does that mean just for the card itself or that 500w will work just fine for it?

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