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Setting up a new rig, need some help.

So momostallion hooked me up with a motherboard, case video card on Saturday, and I was planning on mating that machine with my old hard drive and power supply today. I got all of the hardware installed and when I boot up the machine my monitor acts as if the computer is still off. I've tried using a different video card thinking maybe the first one was causing the failure but the second one yielded the same results.

I have a decent knowledge of computers, having built my first one and all, so yes I know I have everything hooked up right. Any ideas on how to get my shit to work?

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So momostallion hooked me up with a motherboard, case video card on Saturday, and I was planning on mating that machine with my old hard drive and power supply today. I got all of the hardware installed and when I boot up the machine my monitor acts as if the computer is still off. I've tried using a different video card thinking maybe the first one was causing the failure but the second one yielded the same results.

I have a decent knowledge of computers, having built my first one and all, so yes I know I have everything hooked up right. Any ideas on how to get my shit to work?

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does the hard drive kick on and the computer at least sound like its posting or does nothing happen at all? any beeps or leds?
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yeah the green mobo led lights up, the heatsink fan works, and video card fan works... all signs of a functioning machine. no beeps or anything from the mobo either.
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yeah the green mobo led lights up, the heatsink fan works, and video card fan works... all signs of a functioning machine. no beeps or anything from the mobo either.

just no output to the monitor huh? is it an lcd monitor? does the monitor have hookups for dvi and vga? maybe its trying to read digital via dvi while you have it hooked up analog using vga? happens here at work all the time
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It is an LCD, but it is vga. my video card however is dvi, so I have the little dvi to vga converter/adaptor to hook them up. ran the same card and monitor for years so I know they are compatible.
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Does the video card need its own power? A lot of newer video cards have a place to plug in a power cord from the power supply.
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Does the video card need its own power? A lot of newer video cards have a place to plug in a power cord from the power supply.
yeah it does, and it is powered from the power supply.
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Have you tried resetting the CMOS? Also, what size power supply do you have?
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Have you tried resetting the CMOS? Also, what size power supply do you have?
it's a 350w psu, same one I used on my old machine that ran the same gpu. I'm not sure how to reset the CMOS?
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Two ways...one, there usually a jumper on the motherboard that you remove/move for several seconds and it clears the CMOS. Or you can take out the "watch" battery for a minute or two.

I would use the jumper recommendation first. Do you have the owners manual for the motherboard or know what brand/model it is?

http://www.wikihow.com/Reset-Your-BIOS
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yeah it's an ASUS a7nbx. Don't know which jumper you're talking about, gonna take out the batter for a few minutes.
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Check this link here for the jumper:

http://www.fixya.com/support/p363099...-10972/page-37

I googled your MB and only found the Asus a7n8x...so that is what this is for.
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Hmm... I removed the battery for 10 minutes, then followed the instructions on how to reset the bios... still nothing. Thanks for the help btw, would love to get this thing up and running tonight.
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May sound stupid, but have you taken out the video card and reseeded it?
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May sound stupid, but have you taken out the video card and reseeded it?
Several times
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Try and unplug all of your hard drives/CD-ROM drives and just leave 1 stick of memory in the box. See if it boots up then.

BTW, what are the specs on the machine....what cpu? what video card? How many hard drives and cd rom drives?
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it's got an amd 2500, nvidia 6600gt, one hard drive hooked up atm, and nothing else plugged in.
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I think it is trying to boot up, just can't get anything on the monitor.
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i cant imagine the agp slot went bad, it worked fine a few weeks ago.
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The only other thing I can think of is to make sure your motherboard does not have another place to plug in part of the power supply. Most will have 2, the long rectangular one and another square 12v one. Does your MB have 2 and maybe you forgot to plug the second connector in?
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i cant imagine the agp slot went bad, it worked fine a few weeks ago.
Do you have an old PCI card lying around somewhere?
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So you mentioned fans spining and stuff, but can you actually hear the hard drives spinning up and after that can you hear them loading the OS about the time they should be loading the OS?

I assume you can't even see the POST stuff?

Got another PC to try the card in? (maybe a friend's?) Or a friend's card to try in your AGP slot?

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The only other thing I can think of is to make sure your motherboard does not have another place to plug in part of the power supply. Most will have 2, the long rectangular one and another square 12v one. Does your MB have 2 and maybe you forgot to plug the second connector in?
I think this might be it. My old motherboard did have the two places to plug in the power supply, the long rectangular one and the 2x2 square one. on this asus board I can only find the long rectangular power slot
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So you mentioned fans spining and stuff, but can you actually hear the hard drives spinning up and after that can you hear them loading the OS about the time they should be loading the OS?

I assume you can't even see the POST stuff?

Got another PC to try the card in? (maybe a friend's?) Or a friend's card to try in your AGP slot?

Take care,
I can hear my hard drive doing something when I have it hooked up and run the system, but like I said I can't get anything to come up on the monitor so I have no idea what's actually going on.

also, my room mate would never in a million years let me mess with his computer
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sounds like this guy has the same problem
http://www.fixya.com/support/t111884...when_conection
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Do you have an old PCI card lying around somewhere?
sure don't.
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doubt it will help but try moving the ram around. i dont remember which ports make it try dual channel and which dont.
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doubt it will help but try moving the ram around. i dont remember which ports make it try dual channel and which dont.
I've done this as well, to no avail.
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I've done this as well, to no avail.

then i'm lost. it almost sounds like just the agp slot went out or the bios video settings are jacked up.

dont know why they would be, they were fine for me and nothing was overclocked or accelerated. what happens with no ide devices plugged in?
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This going to sound retarded BUT, if a new PSU doesn't work try a different CPU cooler/fan. Again I know it sounds crazy but I experienced this myself last night. No POST with a Zalman fan but it would POST with the loud ass Intel fan
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try a completely different Power supply.
Don't have one, but I would if I could.
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Try booting the computer connected to the integrated video card, then download the drivers for new video card. I also think you have to disable the integrated video card from the bios.

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w/o being able to swap hardware around you're kind of fucked.

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Try booting the computer connected to the integrated video card, then download the drivers for new video card. I also think you have to disable the integrated video card from the bios.

no integrated vid card on that mobo.


ceyko is right. you should try picking up a power supply from best buy or something. if it still doesnt work you know the power supply was not the problem and you can just take it back.
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Try unpluging the hard drive and see if it will post.
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Did you ever get the computer working?
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No man, not working as of yet. A friend has a new 450w PSU he is gonna let me try out this weekend, will keep ya'll posted as to what happens... Thanks again for all the help guys, much appreciated.

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Redownload and reinstall your video card's drivers from the Cardmaker's website. Plug the monitor into the onboard video spot. The spot that looks like where you plug in your monitor to your video card, but its up higher. That is the onboard video. If it comes on, go into windows and go to the "Device Manager". Disable onboard video. Restart the computer. Hit F1 or F4 or F8 or the escape key ( i really don't know which one it is on your motherboard, plus i forgot anyway) whichever key gets you into your motherboard's bios. Disable onboard video again, in the bios. If it is in there, not all Bios's have it. If someone else said all this, ignore me. I used to have the same problem and it did not quit till i disables onboard video in the bios. Good luck...

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Redownload and reinstall your video card's drivers from the Cardmaker's website. Plug the monitor into the onboard video spot. The spot that looks like where you plug in your monitor to your video card, but its up higher. That is the onboard video. If it comes on, go into windows and go to the "Device Manager". Disable onboard video. Restart the computer. Hit F1 or F4 or F8 or the escape key ( i really don't know which one it is on your motherboard, plus i forgot anyway) whichever key gets you into your motherboard's bios. Disable onboard video again, in the bios. If it is in there, not all Bios's have it. If someone else said all this, ignore me. I used to have the same problem and it did not quit till i disables onboard video in the bios. Good luck...
He can't even POST, so he won't be able to do anything with drivers till he is able to get his monitor working.
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New monitor maybe?

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New monitor maybe?
Na, monitor is fine.
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Ever get it to work? If you cant even get it to post i would check the boot order, and look for hardware problems such as improperly seated CPU.

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