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To run SLI or not to?

So I'm bulding a new PC. EVGA 780i SLI MB, Q6700 proccessor, 8 gig PC6400 memory, 2 750gb sata drives, 900 watt ps and windows vista 64. The only thing I really need to figure out is should I run a few 9800 gt SLI cards or just spend @ $350 on one card. Anyone have any ideas on this?
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What resolution do you plan on playing at?

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What resolution do you plan on playing at?
I'd like to play at 1600X1200 if I can get away with it without lagging and getting choppy. I've seen good reviews on the 512mb 9800gt cards and they are relatively cheap hence the reason I was going to run 2 of them in an SLI config. And I've had bad luck with ATI cards so I tend to lean towards the Nvidia gear. I'll check out the reviews on the Radeon 4870. Once I figure out which card(s) I'm going to run I'll have to get off of my lazy ass and actually build this box.
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I'd like to play at 1600X1200 if I can get away with it without lagging and getting choppy. I've seen good reviews on the 512mb 9800gt cards and they are relatively cheap hence the reason I was going to run 2 of them in an SLI config. And I've had bad luck with ATI cards so I tend to lean towards the Nvidia gear. I'll check out the reviews on the Radeon 4870. Once I figure out which card(s) I'm going to run I'll have to get off of my lazy ass and actually build this box.
http://www.maximumpc.com/search/node/Radeon+4870

As far as cards go, a single 4850 is on par w/ a PAIR of 8800's in SLI and it's the lesser of the new ATI cards. A friend of mine bought a 4850 to 3dmark against his 9600GT OC'ed and it at factory settings raised his score a hair over 2000 points.





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Now I wish i would have bought a Crossfire ready motherboard. I'll give the radeon card a shot and if I don't like it i'll sell it and go with an nvidia sli card setup.
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if i was building a computer today id run a pair of 8800GT simply cause they can be had for under a 100 each now.
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if i was building a computer today id run a pair of 8800GT simply cause they can be had for under a 100 each now.
yep, thats what I have and I love em. Im gonna get the 9800 GX2 here soon to replace them though

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yep, thats what I have and I love em. Im gonna get the 9800 GX2 here soon to replace them though
Dont get a GX2, microstuttering up the assess.

I had one, and max fps was really high however there were many times in "all" games I played frames would drop insanely low and jump back up.

It doesn't offer good average/constant performance.

I had a GX2, rma'd it with another GX2, got another GX2 to try out Quad SLI. And the microstuttering really killed the experienced.

Sold em both, and got two GTX 260's (at launch). I only run one for now until new drivers come out that will support SLI + Dual Monitors.

Decent Performance out of one 260, but I hear they scale very well.

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Dont get a GX2, microstuttering up the assess.

I had one, and max fps was really high however there were many times in "all" games I played frames would drop insanely low and jump back up.

It doesn't offer good average/constant performance.

I had a GX2, rma'd it with another GX2, got another GX2 to try out Quad SLI. And the microstuttering really killed the experienced.

Sold em both, and got two GTX 260's (at launch). I only run one for now until new drivers come out that will support SLI + Dual Monitors.

Decent Performance out of one 260, but I hear they scale very well.
Ok cool I'll look into the GTX 260 then. I can still trade up my 8800GT and get $260 out of it from EVGA so I'll probably do that here soon. Honestly I'm happy with my SLI'd 8800's and there isnt anything they wont do so far. The 260 is dual core though, right? So far the only dual core solution that will let you run dual monitors, correct?

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GTX260 and 280 are single gpu solutions, Nvidia doesn't have the dual gpu solution solid yet. Even yet there are still driver issues with some games with the GX2.

I "upgraded" from a GX2 to a single GTX260 and the performance was WAY better. Mainly because the performance was constant and didn't fluctuate as much as the GX2.

Don't get me wrong, the GX2 is a freaking power house of a card but dual gpu solutions aren't there yet imo (with Nvidia, I can't speak for ATi's highend cards).

There is supposed to be a driver coming out this month/next month that will allow dual monitors when running SLI and once that comes out i'm gonna put in my second GTX260.

Also, there are two versions of the GTX260 the old one and the new one with more Shaders which when overclocked is damn near close to GTX280 performance. Its a great bang for buck card as is the 4870 (more vram than the 260, but still only 256bit mem bus).

To the OP, I'd honestly go with one high end card and try that solution first. If it doesn't work as expected you can always buy a second and if it works better than expected well I just saved you some cash. Can't go wrong with a GTX260 which I think will eat any game at 1600x1200 resolution maxed out.

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So I'm bulding a new PC. EVGA 780i SLI MB, Q6700 proccessor, 8 gig PC6400 memory, 2 750gb sata drives, 900 watt ps and windows vista 64. The only thing I really need to figure out is should I run a few 9800 gt SLI cards or just spend @ $350 on one card. Anyone have any ideas on this?
I just realized thats almost my exact setup except I have 4GB of memory and a 750w PC P&C PSU. I have dual 8800GTs and Im extremely happy with it. We even have the same mobo and processor

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SLI and Crossfire are both HARDCORE gaming moves. I used to run SLI till I bought my 3870 X2, I run COD4 at 1900x1280, without lag, what ever you do, dont go but NVIDIA, it's not near as good as ATI, I learned the easy way thank god! PM me if you have any other questions.
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SLI and Crossfire are both HARDCORE gaming moves. I used to run SLI till I bought my 3870 X2, I run COD4 at 1900x1280, without lag, what ever you do, dont go but NVIDIA, it's not near as good as ATI, I learned the easy way thank god! PM me if you have any other questions.


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Los Angeles (CA) – A tiny material issue in Nvidia’s GPUs has cost Nvidia $200 million so far: The problem boils down to the solder bump material, in Nvidia’s case high-lead that was used in all of the firm’s GPUs that were produced until late July , and we still do not know how serious the issue really is. According to our sources, Nvidia has switched to eutectic solder bumps in recent weeks and there is now a new, apparently independent research report, that claims that eutectic solder bumps, which are used for example by AMD’s ATI unit, may live much longer than high-lead versions. Of course, switching to eutectic isn’t the entire solution, as the material has a much lower melting point than high-lead.

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OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP3 (Build #2600)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard: IP35 PRO
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (1920x1200x32bpp 60Hz)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245bw
Sound: SB X-Fi Audio
Memory: Used: 1124/4096MB
Uptime: 2w 23h 24m 8s
Record Uptime: 8w 2d 16h 32m 33s set on Sun Aug 10 1303 2008

HD:
[C:] 46.41/139.73 GB (Raptor)
[D:New Volume] 280.45/465.76 GB
[H:Storage Unit 5] 38.11/232.88 GB
[K:Storage Unit 2] 46.86/232.88 GB
[N:New Volume] 154.29/279.47 GB
Total Free: 566.12 GB/1350.73 GB

Doesn't include my other computer which is 1.7TB (1080p rips). Try to get close to my record uptime. I game the shit out of my machine and have higher uptime than most servers.

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OS: WinXP Professional 5.1 SP3 (Build #2600)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard: IP35 PRO
Video: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT (1920x1200x32bpp 60Hz)
Monitor: Samsung SyncMaster 245bw
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Memory: Used: 1124/4096MB
Uptime: 2w 23h 24m 8s
Record Uptime: 8w 2d 16h 32m 33s set on Sun Aug 10 1303 2008

HD:
[C:] 46.41/139.73 GB (Raptor)
[D:New Volume] 280.45/465.76 GB
[H:Storage Unit 5] 38.11/232.88 GB
[K:Storage Unit 2] 46.86/232.88 GB
[N:New Volume] 154.29/279.47 GB
Total Free: 566.12 GB/1350.73 GB

Doesn't include my other computer which is 1.7TB (1080p rips). Try to get close to my record uptime. I game the shit out of my machine and have higher uptime than most servers.
What app did you use to gather that info?
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What app did you use to gather that info?

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Doesn't include my other computer which is 1.7TB (1080p rips).
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I have found Everest Ultimate to be a great tweaking tool, you can overclock memory bus, and processor speed, not only that, but you can also control fan speeds. It show you temp gauges for everything, the best part is it's free, just google it.
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