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New acer pc. Not connecting to the internet. I tried all the repair options under diagnose and repair, but still getting limited or no connectivity. I've power cycled the router also.

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Bad Drivers or Bad Nic. Try a different nic card. I had an EmAchines do the same thing.

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Bad Drivers or Bad Nic. Try a different nic card. I had an EmAchines do the same thing.

I didn't even think of that. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
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Is it giving you an error message? What IP do you see when you're connected?
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Is it giving you an error message? What IP do you see when you're connected?

The only error message I was getting was the limited or no connectivity message.

I was getting an ip of 192.168.1.3, I believe.
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Are you trying to connect via WEP or wired?
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If you're connecting with a nic, try cycling through different hardsets.
10mbs half/full, 100mbs half/full

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Are you trying to connect via WEP or wired?
Ah, wired.
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If you're connecting with a nic, try cycling through different hardsets.
10mbs half/full, 100mbs half/full
What happened when you tried this?

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What happened when you tried this?
As far as I saw, I didn't have that option.

It looks like the LAN drivers are gone.

I went here, and downloaded the drivers for the Intel LAN
http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acerdr...TOKEN=82382129

And unzipped, and put the files on a cd. The add hardware wizard found a TON of enternet/network cards, but I have no clue which is the one on this machine.

It's intergrated.
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As far as I saw, I didn't have that option.

It looks like the LAN drivers are gone.

I went here, and downloaded the drivers for the Intel LAN
http://www.acerpanam.com/flex/acerdr...TOKEN=82382129

And unzipped, and put the files on a cd. The add hardware wizard found a TON of enternet/network cards, but I have no clue which is the one on this machine.

It's intergrated.
You'll have the option in vista. . . hold on, let me reboot into vista and get the directions there.

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You'll have the option in vista. . . hold on, let me reboot into vista and get the directions there.
I'm a Vista n00b.
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Click the Windows Icon in the bottom left corner, control panel, Hardware and Sound, Device Manager, Click the (+) next to network adapters, Right click on yours and go down to properties, Click on the Advanced tab, Select LinkSpeed and Duplex from the list, on the right, you'll have a drop down menu to try those settings. To be on the safe side, change it to one of the settings i mentioned above, then restart the computer. Try each one until they work, or, if none of them end up working, change it back to "Auto", and i'm sorry i wasted your time with these steps.

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Have you tried removing the router out of the equation and plugging directly in? Though, in your case the router/modem maybe all in one. If that's the case, can you try plugging in another computer/device into the same port you're trying to access with that computer and see what happens? That should help narrow it down further.
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Have you tried removing the router out of the equation and plugging directly in? Though, in your case the router/modem maybe all in one. If that's the case, can you try plugging in another computer/device into the same port you're trying to access with that computer and see what happens? That should help narrow it down further.
I've tried a different computer, and it works. I have FIOS, so i can try it without the router (POS actiontec) tomorrow.
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I've tried a different computer, and it works. I have FIOS, so i can try it without the router (POS actiontec) tomorrow.
Changing nic setting didn't help?
Also, did you power cycle the modem as well, not just the router? Shouldn't make a difference, but i've seen stranger.

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Changing nic setting didn't help?
Also, did you power cycle the modem as well, not just the router? Shouldn't make a difference, but i've seen stranger.
Sorry for the confusion, the router is the modem. it's a POS 2 in 1 from actiontec.

I tried the power cycling with no help. I still think it's missing the drivers, but I don't know where to extract the files to. I found some SiS GigaLan drivers, but they didn't come with an .exe!
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Sorry for the confusion, the router is the modem. it's a POS 2 in 1 from actiontec.

I tried the power cycling with no help. I still think it's missing the drivers, but I don't know where to extract the files to. I found some SiS GigaLan drivers, but they didn't come with an .exe!
Ok, so you didn't try changing the nic settings???
Trust me on this, you'd be surprised on what it can do.

If it was missing the drivers, you wouldn't get a message for that. The message you're recieving is telling you that it cannot retrieve an IP address from your modem/router. If it was missing drivers, you'd either get an "add new hardware" message when you booted up windows, or it would be a disabled device in device manager.

Go through those items i mentioned above. When vista rolled out and I was doing tech support calls for Dell, that was a number one issue with one of the chipsets we used. Usually 10mbs full fixed it, depending on what it was attached to.

Here they are again, give it a shot:

Click the Windows Icon in the bottom left corner, control panel, Hardware and Sound, Device Manager, Click the (+) next to network adapters, Right click on yours and go down to properties, Click on the Advanced tab, Select LinkSpeed and Duplex from the list, on the right, you'll have a drop down menu to try those settings. To be on the safe side, change it to one of the settings i mentioned above, then restart the computer. Try each one until they work, or, if none of them end up working, change it back to "Auto", and i'm sorry i wasted your time with these steps.

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Ok, so you didn't try changing the nic settings???
Trust me on this, you'd be surprised on what it can do.

If it was missing the drivers, you wouldn't get a message for that. The message you're recieving is telling you that it cannot retrieve an IP address from your modem/router. If it was missing drivers, you'd either get an "add new hardware" message when you booted up windows, or it would be a disabled device in device manager.

Go through those items i mentioned above. When vista rolled out and I was doing tech support calls for Dell, that was a number one issue with one of the chipsets we used. Usually 10mbs full fixed it, depending on what it was attached to.

Here they are again, give it a shot:

Click the Windows Icon in the bottom left corner, control panel, Hardware and Sound, Device Manager, Click the (+) next to network adapters, Right click on yours and go down to properties, Click on the Advanced tab, Select LinkSpeed and Duplex from the list, on the right, you'll have a drop down menu to try those settings. To be on the safe side, change it to one of the settings i mentioned above, then restart the computer. Try each one until they work, or, if none of them end up working, change it back to "Auto", and i'm sorry i wasted your time with these steps.
Okay, I'll give it a shot again tomorrow when I'm back in front of that pc.

Thanks!
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Quit calling it a POS. The AT is just fine.

How can the LAN driver be missing if you're receiving a valid ip address of 192.168.1.3 as stated in your previous post?

ah nevermind. Have fun.

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It worked! Thanks!
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Quit calling it a POS. The AT is just fine.

How can the LAN driver be missing if you're receiving a valid ip address of 192.168.1.3 as stated in your previous post?

ah nevermind. Have fun.


I called it a POS because I couldn't figure it out. I have little experience with Vista.

It was really just me not being able to figure out what was going on.
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It worked! Thanks!
What worked?

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You're suggestion with the NIC card settings. I used 10Mbps Full Duplex.
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You're suggestion with the NIC card settings. I used 10Mbps Full Duplex.
Sweet, glad it worked!

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Sweet, glad it worked!


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You're suggestion with the NIC card settings. I used 10Mbps Full Duplex.
I'd look into that a little more and try to find a solution. 10/Full is slightly better then 1993's 10/Half.

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I'd look into that a little more and try to find a solution. 10/Full is slightly better then 1993's 10/Half.
Yep, agreed.
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Basically, if that step worked, their is a communication problem either at the router end, or the nic end. Driver update may fix it, assuming they've released an updated driver.
Good luck with that on a budget-boxed over the shelf pc.

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Concur, but these days it is likely not the router port. Especially on the AT.

OP - Basical rules of networking on this matter.

Access Ports (PCs..printers...etc): Auto/Auto

Server/UPlink ports: Hard Set (i.e. 100/Full)

In your case auto/auto did not work. It is a sin to have one end auto negotiating and the other end hard set. In your case auto/auto failed. Try hard setting both sides to 100/full and go from there. If needed, borrow a NIC and try it out and see if you get better results.

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Just get a new nic card you cheap fuck. its like 12$

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Just get a new nic card you cheap fuck. its like 12$
It's not my computer, and the owner will not buy a new NIC.
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