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IDE vs ATA HD question

Can you use a ATA HD in PC that came with IDE HD from Dell?

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Yes . One way is buying a sata/pci card .
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what the heck does the pci card have to do with the HardDrive?
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It depends if your mobo has an SATA port or not. If not, they have cheap satas cards that are like 14$ off geeks.com

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he said ATA, not SATA.

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he said ATA, not SATA.
Some people don't know the difference.

EIDE is EIDE. If that drive has the 40 pin IDC connector that EIDE drives have, hook that bitch up. Look at some drives that are listed on pricewatch. You will see them listed as EIDE ATA/100 XXgb drives.

If it is a large drive and the Dell is an old system with an old BIOS, you might run into a problem with the entire drive not being usable but that would be a boat anchor anyway.

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Some people don't know the difference.

EIDE is EIDE. If that drive has the 40 pin IDC connector that EIDE drives have, hook that bitch up. Look at some drives that are listed on pricewatch. You will see them listed as EIDE ATA/100 XXgb drives.

If it is a large drive and the Dell is an old system with an old BIOS, you might run into a problem with the entire drive not being usable but that would be a boat anchor anyway.
i understand that completely. but people were telling him to get a SATA PCI card.

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It is 2 yr old Dell Demension 3k with a P4 3.4 gig with HT and 2 gigs of ram. The new drive is a Maxtor ATA 100 160gb, when I put it acts like it does not see it. I run the blaster cd that came with the drive and it still can't find it in the system.
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It is 2 yr old Dell Demension 3k with a P4 3.4 gig with HT and 2 gigs of ram. The new drive is a Maxtor ATA 100 160gb, when I put it acts like it does not see it. I run the blaster cd that came with the drive and it still can't find it in the system.


Make sure you setup the drive as SLAVE.

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It is 2 yr old Dell Demension 3k with a P4 3.4 gig with HT and 2 gigs of ram. The new drive is a Maxtor ATA 100 160gb, when I put it acts like it does not see it. I run the blaster cd that came with the drive and it still can't find it in the system.
Like was said earlier, make sure your jumper is set correctly: Master, Slave or CS. If the cable is labled MASTER and SLAVE near the connectors, it is CS.

Make sure you have the power cable connected to the power port on the drive and that you can hear or feel the drive spin up when the machine is powered on.

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I wanted to replace the current 40gig with this, but the pc will not boot with it installed and set to CS or Master.
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you want to replace the 40gb with the 160gb?

unhook the old one. set the new one to master. plug in the ide cable and power cable. start up computer with windows xp disc. it will see it and you can install windows again
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you want to replace the 40gb with the 160gb?

unhook the old one. set the new one to master. plug in the ide cable and power cable. start up computer with windows xp disc. it will see it and you can install windows again

done tried that and it never makes it to the bios screen.
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done tried that and it never makes it to the bios screen.

Do you have just one ribbon for the harddrive and then one ribbon for the CDROM?

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no it has its own ribbon cable straight to the board.
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dumb question...did you hook the power up to the new drive? I always leave the hd's on CS for the jumper setting. The cable will decide which to make a master or slave. Usually the ribbon cables have 2 ends on one side and 1 on the other. This allows for two IDE compatible drives off 1 cable.

Set the jumper on the old one to MASTER and the new one to SLAVE. Then connect the same cable (with the 2 ends) one to each hard drive. Make sure power is connected, then boot up normally. The new hard drive probably wont work when you get into windows but it should recognize it. You will need to format the new drive.

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