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Secure Formatting of HD?

Any links to where I can download the boot files for a floppy disk to securely format a HD? Getting rid of some old boxes and want to wipe them clean.




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Any links to where I can download the boot files for a floppy disk to securely format a HD? Getting rid of some old boxes and want to wipe them clean.

I have a cd, its called pc beginner. I can shoot it over to you if you would like. It writes 1's and 0's to the hd.
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I have a cd, its called pc beginner. I can shoot it over to you if you would like. It writes 1's and 0's to the hd.
Cool. How would you send it to me? As an ISO image?




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I think I have one somewhere too... it does a DOD wipe, probably a little overkill

Let me try to find it.

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I don't have the file but I was using DBAN, you can get it on sourceforge it works well.

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I use kill disk, found it somewhere on the web, takes awhile, but wipes that mofo DOD clean.
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You do not need any of that. Reformat the partition using the 'long' version of NTFS format ( not quick ). It's a valid Government standard formating. When you format NTFS long, its makes all the sectors on the drive 0's. If you're worried about people putting atomic resonance identifiers ( ARD ), magnetic displacement scanners, or hell a fucking tricorder, then no amount of formatting is going to protect you depending on how long the data has been on the drive. A full NTFS format is enough in 99.9% of all cases.

If you're worried about your shit getting compromised, next time use an encrypted file system.

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I don't have the file but I was using DBAN, you can get it on sourceforge it works well.
Search for Darik's Boot and Nuke, usually has better results than just looking for DBAN

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do you really have sensative information that someone would go to the trouble to get to?

Just format it with NTFS regular format and call it a day

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Downloaded it last, I'll give it a try later today.

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I use kill disk, found it somewhere on the web, takes awhile, but wipes that mofo DOD clean.
I had a copy of something like that from work but can't find it anymore

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You do not need any of that. Reformat the partition using the 'long' version of NTFS format ( not quick ). It's a valid Government standard formating. When you format NTFS long, its makes all the sectors on the drive 0's. If you're worried about people putting atomic resonance identifiers ( ARD ), magnetic displacement scanners, or hell a fucking tricorder, then no amount of formatting is going to protect you depending on how long the data has been on the drive. A full NTFS format is enough in 99.9% of all cases.

If you're worried about your shit getting compromised, next time use an encrypted file system.
I didn't realize that the regular NTFS format (long) would be sufficient. Still like the convenience of popping in a floppy and having it do the work

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do you really have sensative information that someone would go to the trouble to get to?

Just format it with NTFS regular format and call it a day
I like the peace of mind of knowing that it's gone. I've got warez, prong, and financial information. I wouldn't care to have that stuff shared out




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I like the peace of mind of knowing that it's gone. I've got warez, prong, and financial information. I wouldn't care to have that stuff shared out
We already know you got donkey porn, its cool npnp

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I can't remember the AR number, but a long windows format is not an option for formatting drives that are being disposed of moved to a lower classification. (In reference to military/government that someone mentioned)

Now there is clearly a difference between sanitizing drives for reuse in another government computer (depending on the classification of the network) and sanitizing it for disposal.

If I remember right one of those proggies that fills the drive/erases it a gillion times has to be used on drive being reused from a higher classification to a lower one. If they are staying on systems with the same classification level, we just formatted those.

When disposing of drives we really were not 100% sure what to do...so for class/unclass and Multinational drives we of course format them with some program...bust them up...burned them....wet them down and put them in a bag. We had a COMSEC person who said he took them to get shredded as well.

If anyone got data off those drives...

Anyway, I'm no HDD forensics expert. I do know to declass a drive it needs one of those programs, so I can assume (without spelling out what I've read in the past) that it likely increases the likelyhood that data will not be recovered.

However, this falls into home use...and lets face it, you're data really is not all that important to anyone. A quick format is probably fine.

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NTFS formatting is Government standard and approved, I didn't say it was military approved, HUGE difference. One pass of NTFS full format ( low level ) is 99% certainty that you're not going to be able to recover any data with a normal desktop computer.

Even writing and rewriting data 20 or 30 times to each sector will not guarantee a wipe of a disk, the only way to guarantee no one will recover the shit on your shit, is to destroy the disk.

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I guess if you doing a lot of drives then I could see wanting to save some time, but considering the programs are free, and its just a matter of letting it run it really doesnt hurt to be safe...

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I would just format it and take it to anyplace that recycles computer hardware

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I guess if you doing a lot of drives then I could see wanting to save some time, but considering the programs are free, and its just a matter of letting it run it really doesnt hurt to be safe...



I would just format it and take it to anyplace that recycles computer hardware

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I've got a degausser at work. Its even got a remote

I've got a stash of drives I need to fry.

I've also got access to a hardware based drive wiping tool that will do two at a time.

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