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Is Vista actually worth it over XP?

Since CompUSA is having their store clearance over off of Park/US75 I thought about picking up the Ultimate edition for $80. Would most likely put it on my laptop and maybe my parents' computer. Am thinking about getting a MacBook sometime at the end of summer and maybe running it on there.

Here's my questions...

Is it really worth switching over? I can't seem to get a clear-cut response why anyone has other than they're die-hard Windows users. What better features does it have compared to XP?

As for the MacBook...I know Leopard is suppose to be out during the summer. I don't know shit about macs, but was told you could only run vista with the leopard system? Doesn't make sense to me, but if someone could clarify or deny it...let me know. Also, does anyone know if Vista will even be worth putting on the Mac with the new leopard system?

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well u know xp is about to be out so it dosent matter who likes it all your updates and shit is going to vista so no matter wat before the year is up u will have vista! or hate life either 1

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haha, well my roommate is still running Windows 2000...so I think it's stood the test of time in terms of updates

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Support for XP will go on much longer than the end of the year. As was said above it hasn't ended for 2k yet. I won't switch until I have to or until at least a service pack or two are out and drivers are readily available.
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Yeah, for the price I would go pick a copy up, but I wouldn't install it until SP1 comes out...

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Right now xp is far better, more user friendly, a lot less bugs........give vista a year before switching. They rushed vista and it needs alot of work.
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They rushed vista and it needs alot of work.
Which is ironic... Vista was due out originally in 2004.

Anyway, as others have said Vista isn't worth the upgrade right now. Perhaps never, depending on how much of a gamer you are. The only real improvement it's made over XP is DirectX 10 (but I've heard there's groups working on getting dx10 working in XP).

Running Vista on your Mac won't be a problem, regardless of Tiger or Leopard. It'll run under Boot Camp, or in Parallels/VM Ware. Of course, that being said... again it depends on if you're a gamer. You could just run with Leopard and not ever have a need for Windows once you switch to Mac.

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well u know xp is about to be out so it dosent matter who likes it all your updates and shit is going to vista so no matter wat before the year is up u will have vista! or hate life either 1
considering they only stopped NT support last year.. i dont see XP "stopping updates" any time soon.. im willing to bet 99% of current home desktops are still XP.. including major corporate desktops. i have seen vista addoption on a VERY low level.. it just sucks..

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well u know xp is about to be out so it dosent matter who likes it all your updates and shit is going to vista so no matter wat before the year is up u will have vista! or hate life either 1
you might be misinformed, sounds like youre referring to Dell's re-release of XP computers and Microsoft to stop licencing new copies of XP at the end of the year.

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we are running 2K here at work, and we have no problems. i hope they don't kill XP anytime soon. right now, i can't afford to buy a new system, to support Vista

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Stay with Xp, my buddy bought a Laptop with vista and damn near all of his old stuff won't work or has some kind of compatibility issue with Vista

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If you've got a really fast 64 bit system it's probably worthwhile to upgrade. Now that Lexmark finally got on the ball the only compatibility issue I have is that my soundcard won't support two channel audio, only 5.1. Not a big deal since you can still use the headphone jack and get normal stereo.

There are lots of differences and advantages to Vista but it's a matter of if they are worth it to you. Searches are blazing fast, file sharing security is easy to setup, built in remote terminal access, scheduling of defrags and of course Vista widgets are cool. With Aero the transparent windows are a nice feature and if you've got the video card to support it the video wallpapers are interesting.

I wouldn't spend $300 for it but if you can pick up a premium version for $100 or so it's worth it.
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Since CompUSA is having their store clearance over off of Park/US75 I thought about picking up the Ultimate edition for $80. Would most likely put it on my laptop and maybe my parents' computer. Am thinking about getting a MacBook sometime at the end of summer and maybe running it on there.

Here's my questions...

Is it really worth switching over? I can't seem to get a clear-cut response why anyone has other than they're die-hard Windows users. What better features does it have compared to XP?

As for the MacBook...I know Leopard is suppose to be out during the summer. I don't know shit about macs, but was told you could only run vista with the leopard system? Doesn't make sense to me, but if someone could clarify or deny it...let me know. Also, does anyone know if Vista will even be worth putting on the Mac with the new leopard system?

Thanks in advance...
Windows Vista is good on the rite setup and rite now its more or less like the initial release of Doom 3. Most people don't have the proper system to support Vista to see the improvements. And Service pack 1 will fix most all the driver issues with the software currently out there. So people say its crap and people say wait for the service pack (which is the next updated release of vista.) Basically Vista works different than XP Windows XP does not use all system memory but actually optimizes and tries to free it up for programs....Vista is the oposite like Linux, Vista Loads everything into memory and with proper amounts of memory vista does perform better than an XP system. But the rite amount of memory for Vista is over 2gb, I personally only use 1gb in my system. But anyways we are entering dual and quad core systems now so it will be commonplace just to see 4gb of memory in systems. A true 64bit processor needs 2gb of system memory to operate to its full potential. Thats all. So you can wait or put it on a system that actually can run it to its full potential so it benefits you. But rite now its like running a race engine off a stock fuel system, Most current systems we use are the stock fuel systems.

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Windows Vista is good on the rite setup and rite now its more or less like the initial release of Doom 3. Most people don't have the proper system to support Vista to see the improvements. And Service pack 1 will fix most all the driver issues with the software currently out there. So people say its crap and people say wait for the service pack (which is the next updated release of vista.) Basically Vista works different than XP Windows XP does not use all system memory but actually optimizes and tries to free it up for programs....Vista is the oposite like Linux, Vista Loads everything into memory and with proper amounts of memory vista does perform better than an XP system. But the rite amount of memory for Vista is over 2gb, I personally only use 1gb in my system. But anyways we are entering dual and quad core systems now so it will be commonplace just to see 4gb of memory in systems. A true 64bit processor needs 2gb of system memory to operate to its full potential. Thats all. So you can wait or put it on a system that actually can run it to its full potential so it benefits you. But rite now its like running a race engine off a stock fuel system, Most current systems we use are the stock fuel systems.
Uhh kinda hard to take you serious when you can't spell RIGHT. I agree with most points but damn dude, what the hell is RITE?

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Uhh kinda hard to take you serious when you can't spell RIGHT. I agree with most points but damn dude, what the hell is RITE?
I dunno.... The opposite of left?

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Upgrade to Vista? Hell no, I don't think my logging laptop could take it, old ass Compaq 386/25 with 1mb RAM. It does just fine with DOS 3.31 and Windows for Workgroups 3.11.

Seriously, I have played with Vista on my home desktop and it is way too buggy still and it is a resource pig. I would wait a bit until the next SP is released at a minimum.

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I dunno.... The opposite of left?
No RIGHT is the opposite of left. You just sealed it, you are an idiot.

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No RIGHT is the opposite of left. You just sealed it, you are an idiot.
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Well hot damn i'd hate to think what that makes you! Hahaha bitchboy!
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That was weak.
Yeah, weak like your aluminum heads.

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Yeah, weak like your aluminum heads.
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LOL....what else are you going to grasp for? You are the worst e-thug to ever talk shit on this board.
I don't have to talk shit. I have people who do enough of that already.

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xarva.. you some noobie punk bitch talking shit to some one who has been here almost 2 years.. while you are trying to make yourself sound smart, your obvious attempt at L33T speak makes you look like a jackass. combine that with your WEEK insults to luke who clearly has you out witted and out smarted.. you shoudl quit while you are ahead.

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xarva.. you some noobie punk bitch talking shit to some one who has been here almost 2 years.. while you are trying to make yourself sound smart, your obvious attempt at L33T speak makes you look like a jackass. combine that with your WEEK insults to luke who clearly has you out witted and out smarted.. you shoudl quit while you are ahead.
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LOL let him go, SIG CHECK.
Yes, let me go I know members who have been here way over 2 years.... hm Fred doesn't ever check the computer forum.... ah fuck it enough said.

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Yes, let me go I know members who have been here way over 2 years.... hm Fred doesn't ever check the computer forum.... ah fuck it enough said.
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So Fred is going to kick my ass because I said you are an idiot for not knowing the difference between RITE and RIGHT while giving technical advice?
Oh thats what you were talking about? Shit I just type it down before I forget it, its tough enough answering the question let alone going back to spell check.

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I'm still on 2000 because XP won't load because it doesn't recognize my Raptor . "Unknown mass storage device detected". 2000 supported it, xp didn't. Go figure.
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I'm still on 2000 because XP won't load because it doesn't recognize my Raptor . "Unknown mass storage device detected". 2000 supported it, xp didn't. Go figure.
Download the drivers and put them on a floppy (if you even have one)/cd/whatever, then while installing XP there is a notice at the bottom that says "press F5 to install/load additional storage drivers" or some shit like that, I don't remember the exact message. Press whatever key they designate and then load the drivers from your floppy/cd/whatever. XP should be able to recognize your raptor after that.

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I have my windows open, started to smell like someone shit on my window ledge, realized it was the pungent stench of socialism. Sorry if there is any typos in this post, hard to read shit through this gas mask.
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post #47 of 61 (permalink) Old 05-07-2007, 02:16 PM
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or just use a newer version of the OS install disk that prolly has that already slip streamed into it

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Download the drivers and put them on a floppy (if you even have one)/cd/whatever, then while installing XP there is a notice at the bottom that says "press F5 to install/load additional storage drivers" or some shit like that, I don't remember the exact message. Press whatever key they designate and then load the drivers from your floppy/cd/whatever. XP should be able to recognize your raptor after that.

Been there, done that, got the keychain. Didn't work. Scoured the web, found another set of drivers, tried that, didn't work.
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Been there, done that, got the keychain. Didn't work. Scoured the web, found another set of drivers, tried that, didn't work.
Damn...I haven't ever used a Raptor so not sure. Sorry.

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I have my windows open, started to smell like someone shit on my window ledge, realized it was the pungent stench of socialism. Sorry if there is any typos in this post, hard to read shit through this gas mask.
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1337 hunt4gettingbanned uses a raptor as his OS drive.

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