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Thumbs down Photo shop help!!

Im trying to leave the subject of the photo in color, and make the background in black and white, (grayscale)..I've already seperated the 2 with different layers. When I select the layer with the background, then image, mode, and grayscale, the entire thing goes to black and white. How can I prevent this?

BTW, I use the Lasso tool to draw around the subject, then right click inside selecting cut creating new layer.

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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 07-26-2006, 05:57 PM
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Instead of changing the mode, do Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation and turn the saturation all the way down.

Mode affects the entire image, not just the individual layers.

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Instead of changing the mode, do Image > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation and turn the saturation all the way down.

Mode affects the entire image, not just the individual layers.
Thanks for the response. Let me try that. I'll be right back.
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That's it!! Man, it's a BITCH to outline the subject with the lasso closely.
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Why is it telling me the area is empty when I lasso an area, then right click?
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Select what you want to keep color, then select inverse, then desaturate. It's the easiest way I know of.

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Why is it telling me the area is empty when I lasso an area, then right click?
You're probably on an empty layer.

Only time I get that, is when I create a new layer (empty layer), make a selection and try to move that selection around. And for some reason, even though I know exactly what the problem is, it still takes a second to register that ... "oh yeah, I created a new layer, and that automatically selects that layer for editing"

Also, what I've found easiest for seperating a subject from the background is to use a combination of the lasso or magnetic lasso, and quick mask. If there's enough contrast between the background and the subject, the magnetic lasso does a pretty good job, and then I quick mask to clean up any problem areas. If there's not enough contrast for the magnetic lasso, I just make a rough selection with the normal lasso, then go in with the quick mask to finish off the selection.

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Why is it telling me the area is empty when I lasso an area, then right click?
Because within the layer that is selected, there is nothing there inside the selected area. Switch to a different layer, the one that you intend to perform an operation on, and THEN right click.

Also, I just lasso as a VERY rough outline, and follow up with the eraser. Much easier than trying to go all the way around an object.
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Because within the layer that is selected, there is nothing there inside the selected area. Switch to a different layer, the one that you intend to perform an operation on, and THEN right click.

Also, I just lasso as a VERY rough outline, and follow up with the eraser. Much easier than trying to go all the way around an object.


Aah, I've got the backgroung pretty much the way I want it now, but the only problem is, you can see white lines where the lasso cropping was done. I can't those to dissapear.

DarkWolf: That helped. It takes more patience than anything else, and that's my biggest problem. I tend to rush through things.
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That's because you told it to "Layer via Cut" didn't ya. Next time do a "Layer via Copy" and you won't get those lines.
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This is the difference.

It's kinda hard to tell in this example, some are much more obvious. I put red arrows where the cut shows through.
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That's because you told it to "Layer via Cut" didn't ya. Next time do a "Layer via Copy" and you won't get those lines.


Shit! Okay.

*kicks rock, and goes to start over*
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Thanks for the help fellas! I got it~!
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