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Questions about RAM

Ive been trying to find some good RAM for my new comp.

Searching on NewEgg, Ive seen alot of different stuff. 1gig Geil PC4000 for $177 and 1gig Geil PC3200 for $180. What makes the RAM better? I plan on getting an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and OC it, so what do I need to look for in the RAM? I'd like to get 4 sticks of 512MB in PC3200-PC4000, but I dont know what is good and what isnt. I know brands like OCZ, Geil, Corsair, etc are good, but which one is better within each brand?

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Ive been trying to find some good RAM for my new comp.

Searching on NewEgg, Ive seen alot of different stuff. 1gig Geil PC4000 for $177 and 1gig Geil PC3200 for $180. What makes the RAM better? I plan on getting an AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and OC it, so what do I need to look for in the RAM? I'd like to get 4 sticks of 512MB in PC3200-PC4000, but I dont know what is good and what isnt. I know brands like OCZ, Geil, Corsair, etc are good, but which one is better within each brand?
With PC4000, you need to look at timings and voltage, you want to keep it low 2.7v-2.8v because that's the max most motherboards allow on memory (except for DFI, those can go up to 3.3v) And since your gonna overclock, the PC4000(DDR500) will give you more headroom, and hopefully your chip(processor) will run at 250x10 which will give you 2500mhz.

Chances are with 4dimms installed you'll have to run them at 2T command rate, and that hits performance a little bit. Not much, but it should be noted.
Since you want 4x512, your looking at spending nearly $400 going by the prices you gave above. Also, depending on what core you get, your ram might be downclocked to 333mhz when using 4dimms. Take note of that also.

If I were to spend that much money on some ram, I'd get some PC4000 or PC3700 2x1GB kits. By going 2x1GB instead of 4x512 you wont have to run your ram at 2T and your ram won't be downclocked.

Honestly I think you shouldn't go with 4x512 for 2gigs, but instead get one of these kits of 2x1GB, it's cheaper then buying 4x512 and it's just the smarter thing to do.

So look over these, and tell me if you have any more questions.
Gigaram PC3700
The timings on this are okay, might be able to tighten them just a little, and price is pretty good. Being PC3700(DDR466) it's only 17mhz away from PC4000(DDR500), you might be able to get the extra 17mhz, with relaxed timings and you might not. Price isn't bad either.

Crucial Ballistix PC4000
A little expensive, timings aren't that great, but it's great ram. People have been able to get this ram up to DDR600, with way relaxed timings.
You could save a couple of bucks getting refurb.
Refurb
Same ram as above, but here's the 2GB kit from crucial themselves. Bad Ass ram imo, just to rich for my blood.

I'm looking for more right now, but this should help you get started.

EDIT: This ram is doing great in the overclockers community right now. Known to hit PC4000.
Crucial 1GB PC3200
It's pretty cheap @ $105 for one, but it's been known to overclock like crazy.
Here's just one persons experience with this ram

If you still want to go with 4x512, let me know and i'll look for some that would be a good choice to get.


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I was looking around on newegg and the only 2x1gig setup for anything over PC3200 is Gigaram.

It seems like 2x1gig will be the way to go though.

I am planing on the ASUS A8N NF4SLI board with an AMD Athlon 3200+ Venice core if that helps any.

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Here is the memory I am probably getting for my new rig. OCZ PC3200 Gold Series The memory will run 2-2-2-5 timings at 1T no problem and loves overclocking. This review was limited in the overclocking by the motherboard. NewEgg has this for $136.
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this is what I have on my wish list on new egg:

OCZ Gold Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 466 (PC 3700) $172.00

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this will probably sound really stupid, but what is DDR2? can I use that?

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Which version of the A8N-SLI board are you getting? I have always been a diehard Asus user. My last 6 computers have had Asus motherboards except one with a Gigabyte. The reason I am asking is because after doing some extensive research I found the A8N-SLI is not really that great of an overclocker. They just recently came out with a Premium version that is better but still not great. I agonized for the last several weeks and finally decided to order the DFI Lan Party NF4-SLI DR board and the Athlon64 3700 San Diego.
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The Asus A8N-SLI Premium (not deluxe) has been getting great reviews and high marks among the enthusiats(sp?) crowd.
I'm sorry to ask, but do you want 1gig? or 2gig?

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2 gig.

I was looking at the 3700+, but the 3200+ is only .2ghz faster and has a 512k L2 Cache instead of a 1MB. For half the price, im going with the 3200+ Venice core.

The mobo I want (I might get the deluxe instead) is the ASUS A8N-SLI Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

I know the DFI is great for OC'ing, but how much of a difference will it make?

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Not that much, your mobo is okay for overclocking, but the DFI has TONS of settings in the BIOS to fine tune your overclock. And they have the highest voltage available for Ram.
Good choice on the Venice, now here's the thing, do you want 4x512 or 2x1GB?
It will be easy to find 512 sticks that overclock damn good, but you'll end up running them at 2T which kills memory bandwidth. 1GB sticks that overclock good are hard to come by, and they will come at a price, along with relaxed timings. But you'll be able to run them at 1T.
Good luck with whatever you choose.

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ram bandwidth is crucial on these A64 setups.

*I* would run 2x1gb sticks, if i wanted 2gb, but I don't, and 1 is fine. ( i have 1x1gb right now, just in case).

memory timings mean alot to these athlons, but nothing that a few more mhz can't cure.
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