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I'm planning running some cable from one side of my house to the other for a computer I have in another room and I'm wondering if I'm going to have any degradation over a 70 foot run. Any ideas?



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I am running about 150 feet through a downstairs closet, up into the attic, across half the length of the house and into an upstairs bedroom. Have had no problems or degradation in speed.
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[Q] What's the longest (maximum length) CAT 5 patch or crossover cable I can buy from you?

[A] The maximum length (maximum certifiable length) for CAT 5 patch or crossover cables is 328 feet (100 meters).

Beyond that, you run the risk of signal loss and other complications.

CAT 5 Cable Company sells patch and crossover cables in any length, up to 328 feet.
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I have a 500ft cable that runs just fine.
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OK, what's the difference between a patch cable and a crossover???



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OK, what's the difference between a patch cable and a crossover???
Patch cable is computer to switch, crossover cable is computer to computer. I might have that backwards
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OK, what's the difference between a patch cable and a crossover???
Trivia time!

With ethernet, you will use 4 wires (2 pair) out of the 8 that are on a patch cable. Wires 1&2 are one pair and wires 3&6 are the other pair. You can look at the ends of a patch cable and see that the pairs are in the same position on each end.

With a cross-over cable, the pairs swap places on one end patch cable.
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So I need a crossover cable to network two computers together???

Paul, if you left me a message I won't be able to check it out until I get off from work. Reception in my area of the building isn't that great



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So I need a crossover cable to network two computers together???

Paul, if you left me a message I won't be able to check it out until I get off from work. Reception in my area of the building isn't that great
If just the two, yes. But wouldn't hurt to get a hub/switch/router, just incase any other computers get added to the mix later.

Also, aside from actually making my own cables... why is it that crossover cables are so much more expensive than a standard patch cable? That's never made any sense to me, since the ONLY difference is the two pairs that are switched. I mean, I can get a 100ft patch cable at MicroCenter for $20 (probably can get it cheaper elsewhere, but I was in a hurry and didn't bother to look around, and don't really have a need for the crimping tool right now). And a 6 - 8 foot crossover cable costs almost the same price. WTF?!

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Darkwolf is right. If you ever plan on hooking more than 2 pc together you will need a hub. you could probably pick one up for less than 20 bucks. If you still have questions gimma a buzz and I will answer them.

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could not tell you why those crossover cables are more expensive. I do make them once in a blue moon and it is always a pain in the ass.
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I would recommend making your own to avoid being raped for premade cables. Buy the crimpers once and always have the perfect length cable for pennies on the dollar.
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OK, I've got a D-Link 4 port with Wireless AP. Which cable do I need? Patch or Cross Over?



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Patch cable. I have some if you need some, well, nothing longer then 6ft.
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Jose you pick up a couple RJ45 ends and drag your ass to my house I will make you a couple as long as you want...


I have a box of cable that I used to wire the house
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Either of you guys have enough cable to do a 70 foot run?



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yup....


I have enought to do a few 300 ft runs
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Just remember when you make your cable runs not to lay them over anything that could give off electrical interferance. Let me know if you got any questions.
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Just remember when you make your cable runs not to lay them over anything that could give off electrical interferance. Let me know if you got any questions.
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Hmmm.. Like electrical outlets?



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What was it I sold you back in 2001? Best I remember it was some sort of networking device, but I've slept since then!!!!!!!
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right. especialy flourscent lights. I would probably attach it to the rafters or something instead of just laying it accros insulation etc.
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What was it I sold you back in 2001? Best I remember it was some sort of networking device, but I've slept since then!!!!!!!
Might have been a Linksys Router? That sound right? I lost my broadband connection right after I picked that up and I sold it to Sean Park.



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right. especialy flourscent lights. I would probably attach it to the rafters or something instead of just laying it accros insulation etc.
Paul, I'm running it under the house along with a telephone line (for fax and my Replay). Do you see any problems with that? I just need to avoid the two outlets that are on either sides of the computer. I'm just wondering if I should get fancy and actually buy an outlet or drill a hole in the floor and run it through there... hmm....



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Might have been a Linksys Router? That sound right? I lost my broadband connection right after I picked that up and I sold it to Sean Park.
Yep.......I thought it was that..........to bad ya don't have it now!
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