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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 10-18-2002, 05:07 AM Thread Starter
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Baptism for the dead?

1st Cor 15
29Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them?

Does anyone have any ideas as to what Paul is talking about here?
Someone told me that mormons do a " baptism for the dead"

What's it for and how does it work?
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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 10-18-2002, 07:44 AM
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Mormons baptize the dead, they are saying that one can be saved after death.

"It is the baptism for the dead. For we without them cannot be made perfect; neither can they without us be made perfect. Neither can they nor we be made perfect without those who have died in the gospel also;"

-Doctrine and Covenants, Sections 128:18

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The Bible makes it clear that men and women are judged following their death.

- Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgement:"


"Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?"

The Mormons have usurped this verse and taken it out of context. Examine 1 Cor. 15 briefly and see what Paul is talking about when he mentions baptism for the dead.

In Verses 1-19, the fact of Christ's resurrection is detailed by Paul. Beginning in verse 20 and going through verse 23, Paul speaks about the order of the resurrection. Christ is the first one raised -- in a glorified body -- and then who are His at His return. Next, verses 24 - 29 mention Christ's reign and the abolition of death. This is when this controversial verse occurs: "Otherwise, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why then are they baptized for them?"

Just north of Corinth was a city named Eleusis. This was the location of a pagan religion where baptism in the sea was practiced to guarantee a good afterlife. This religion was mention by Homer in Hymn to Demeter 478-79. The Corinthians were known to be heavily influenced by other customs. It is probable that the Corinthians were being influenced by the religious practices found at Eleusis where baptism for the dead was practiced.

Paul used this example from the pagans in 1 Cor. 15:29, when he said, "...if the dead are not raised, then why are they baptized for the dead?" Paul did not say we. This is significant because the Christian church was not practicing baptism for the dead, but the pagans were.

Paul's point was simple. The resurrection is a reality. It is going to happen when Jesus returns. Even the pagans believe in the resurrection, otherwise, why would they baptize for the dead?

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