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Opinions on this write up (Non-believers should read!)

What do you believers, and especially non-believers think about this>?

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What do you believers, and especially non-believers think about this>?

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"If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury."

Other planets have atmospheres. Hell, Jupiter has a moon with an atmosphere. I got to that part, and that's all that I needed.

Plus, what about deep sea creatures, especially microbes that basically live off of the nutrients provided by underwater volcanoes? The atmosphere has no apparent bearing to their existence.

Not saying that there's not a god, but this read isn't the end all of supporting arguments.
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So all that and still no evidence of an Almighty God.... The Creator....

What if we were genetically engineered by a higher intelligence who visited earth thousands of years ago. An intelligent race of beings much like us. A higher intelligence who genetically created humans of different appearance and race and placed us in different parts of the world according to our race.

That makes much more sense but still cant be proven. But then again... maybe thats what really happened and there is evidence throughout or planet earth that leads us to believe such a story. Evidence religion cannot provide.
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Actually they brought us here to breed and reproduce. We are just a crop that will be harvested once we reach our peak population.

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Actually they brought us here to breed and reproduce. We are just a crop that will be harvested once we reach our peak population.
Crops produce. If we're an alien "crop", we would be insignificant. We come from what is here. We're essentially a waste. We are beings that consume other beings. Aliens would be better off not having us.
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Nobody out there knows squat for sure. No religion or anyone.

But there's plenty of evidence on our planet of other things. As amazing as they are... theyre not even mentioned in schools.
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Solar system shown in ancient Sumerian artifact... But Europeans thought the earth was flat. And before Europeans thought the earth was flat, the Bible was written by even less educated etc etc...
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There's much more to the history of man.

Educate yourselves and don't just follow like helpless sheep.
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Stories of the Bible reflect basic similarities of ancient Sumerian writings. Rewritten religion from ancient stories of older civilizations way before the time they say Jesus walked the earth ....
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post #10 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-05-2009, 06:49 AM
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There may be other universes with completely different physical laws from ours.
Our ability to measure the physical laws of this universe may be faulty.

Maybe we should be considering Daoism. Nothing, Taichi, Ying-Yang, the Thousand Things...
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Crops produce. If we're an alien "crop", we would be insignificant. We come from what is here. We're essentially a waste. We are beings that consume other beings. Aliens would be better off not having us.
I really dont believe that. I will tell you what I do believe. I believe that we are creating something greater than ourselves. Something that has the potential to be almost eternal.

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What? AI? I have puzzled over AI for a good while, and i have come to two conclusions. Either it's completely impossible, or it will completely subject to us. I don't think it could ever rebel, (successfully, anyway) despite the millions of movies that are based on this. It would be up against the perfect killing machine, on it's own turf. More likely it would sort of just serve us, in exchange for having all it's needs met. Then there is the theory that some have that any AI would be completely suicidal, that in short order it would find a way to kill itself.

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What? AI? I have puzzled over AI for a good while, and i have come to two conclusions. Either it's completely impossible, or it will completely subject to us. I don't think it could ever rebel, (successfully, anyway) despite the millions of movies that are based on this. It would be up against the perfect killing machine, on it's own turf. More likely it would sort of just serve us, in exchange for having all it's needs met. Then there is the theory that some have that any AI would be completely suicidal, that in short order it would find a way to kill itself.
Right, I dont think anything like terminator would happen. The 3 rules of robotics will always apply.
I think AI is totally possible. All it takes is the right programming. Programming that allows change and adaptation. If you think about the evolutionary process and how many millions of years it took for us to evolve, a computer program can adapt and change in seconds not lifetimes. They dont require a mate but simply a host.

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Yeah it wouldn't take some big crazy war to end up killing everyone, we could just have the AI and then something comes along and kills us all anyway, such as a new plague. Though if we did have the AI helping us out it would likely take a lot more than a plague to kill us. Point is we could just all die off and it could be all that's left. But i am of the opinion that even it would eventually die as well, from one thing or another. Life's just not that permanent.

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Yeah it wouldn't take some big crazy war to end up killing everyone, we could just have the AI and then something comes along and kills us all anyway, such as a new plague. Though if we did have the AI helping us out it would likely take a lot more than a plague to kill us. Point is we could just all die off and it could be all that's left. But i am of the opinion that even it would eventually die as well, from one thing or another. Life's just not that permanent.
AI life could move from one computer to another. It could store its memory in millions of memory banks and move from place to place. Look at the internet, everything from youtube to myspace. All of them are just big memory banks.

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Even circuits age though. And if it was really alive, it would have problems of it's own, even if they were different from our problems. That's just the way life works.

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Even circuits age though. And if it was really alive, it would have problems of it's own, even if they were different from our problems. That's just the way life works.
Yes circuits age but when you can transfer all your memory from one place to another, its hard to die of old age.

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Yes circuits age but when you can transfer all your memory from one place to another, its hard to die of old age.
Old age is just one of a billion ways to die, even for an AI.

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The only problem I have with some religious viewpoints is, some seem to think that we are the only life form in this vast universe. I'm not saying we aren't, but it sure seems like a gigantic waste of space for just one life form. When I say life form I mean all of the inhabitants of this planet, not just humans.

The idea that the universe operates in a precise manner is flawed, the new Hubble space telescope has focused on an area of space that has shown that there is a galaxy far out side the Milky Way that has a concentration of stars and planets so big that according to the laws of space and physics it couldn't exist. But, there it is in all of it's glory floating through the universe. What about black and white holes? Though the speed of light never technically changes, it can be distorted. Nothing is consistent and mathematically continuous 100% of the time.

This guys idea of the moon being a control for a majority of things on this planet is correct, however he does fail to mention that the moon is continually moving away from the Earth. Always has, and always will. Granted it's not by much and it will take millions of years for a major effect on our planet, but it is happening.

His idea of the human brain is also interesting, he does however leave out the part that we barely even use 10% of it's capabilities. Even genius level thinkers like Einstein are said to have only been able to use maybe 3 or 4 % more than the average human. Which brings up another point, if evolution is the end all be all wouldn't eventually we as a race of people be able to use more of our brainpower? Maybe it just hasn't been long enough! Who knows? Just a few thoughts from a wandering mind.

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The only problem I have with some religious viewpoints is, some seem to think that we are the only life form in this vast universe. I'm not saying we aren't, but it sure seems like a gigantic waste of space for just one life form. When I say life form I mean all of the inhabitants of this planet, not just humans.

The idea that the universe operates in a precise manner is flawed, the new Hubble space telescope has focused on an area of space that has shown that there is a galaxy far out side the Milky Way that has a concentration of stars and planets so big that according to the laws of space and physics it couldn't exist. But, there it is in all of it's glory floating through the universe. What about black and white holes? Though the speed of light never technically changes, it can be distorted. Nothing is consistent and mathematically continuous 100% of the time.

This guys idea of the moon being a control for a majority of things on this planet is correct, however he does fail to mention that the moon is continually moving away from the Earth. Always has, and always will. Granted it's not by much and it will take millions of years for a major effect on our planet, but it is happening.

His idea of the human brain is also interesting, he does however leave out the part that we barely even use 10% of it's capabilities. Even genius level thinkers like Einstein are said to have only been able to use maybe 3 or 4 % more than the average human. Which brings up another point, if evolution is the end all be all wouldn't eventually we as a race of people be able to use more of our brainpower? Maybe it just hasn't been long enough! Who knows? Just a few thoughts from a wandering mind.
What do you mean by if evolution is the end all be all?

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What do you mean by if evolution is the end all be all?
If evolution is the contradictory theory to intelligent design. Kind of like, if the big bang is the contradictory theory to creation in seven days.
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I believe that it was Einstien that theorized that if we were able to use around 70% of our brain, that we would no longer even need a body. That we could then exist as pure energy. Could be wrong on who it was. I just seem to remember it being him.

As for evolution being contradictory to intelligent design, eh, i guess it is in the short term point of view. But they have no idea how or why this big bang took place. They don't know what set it off, or where the matter came from in the first place. Maybe some being came along and farted. Who knows.

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Yeah it wouldn't take some big crazy war to end up killing everyone, we could just have the AI and then something comes along and kills us all anyway, such as a new plague. Though if we did have the AI helping us out it would likely take a lot more than a plague to kill us. Point is we could just all die off and it could be all that's left. But i am of the opinion that even it would eventually die as well, from one thing or another. Life's just not that permanent.
well look at it like this. If we do create a good AI and something does happen to the human race. They could use our genomes to replicate us.

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I believe that it was Einstien that theorized that if we were able to use around 70% of our brain, that we would no longer even need a body. That we could then exist as pure energy. Could be wrong on who it was. I just seem to remember it being him.

As for evolution being contradictory to intelligent design, eh, i guess it is in the short term point of view. But they have no idea how or why this big bang took place. They don't know what set it off, or where the matter came from in the first place. Maybe some being came along and farted. Who knows.
I think its just a cycle that has prolly happen billions of times. Matter is attracted to other matter. The more matter gathers, the greater the attraction. Eventually all matter will come together again and the process will start all over again. Why do you think we have black holes. Its prolly something so dense that even light itself can not escape its gravitational pull.
When black holes start joining with black holes, thats when we have to worry.

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Even so, you have to ask why is all this happening? Nothing happens for no reason. It's not just just there cause it can be. It doesn't exist just cause it feels like it. There is some underlying purpose or cause.

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Every atom has another universe inside it. We too are merely particals in something bigger than ourselves.

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That is still about "How", Im afraid. It's when you start reaching into the "Why" that you get into the whole God question/debate.

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