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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-09-2008, 10:46 AM Thread Starter
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Who is flawed?

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If the assertion remains that God did not create anything flawed, yet man is flawed, then the logical conclusion is that God messed up.

Then you have the flipside, where God intentionally created flawed creatures, knowing most (because let's face it, Christianity only accounts for about 1/4-1/3 of the worlds population... that's a lot of people destined for hell) would never live up to his expectations. He intentionally set us up to fall. Real loving God, that one is.
Go to Genesis and the Garden.
Did G#d instruct his people in the garden about Good and Evil?
How were Adam and Eve able to know that the forbidden fruit was evil to eat?
If the Garden was perfect, where was G#d when the serpent was speaking to Eve?
Why was the serpent in the Garden?
If A&E where given the freedom of choice, how where they to make spiritually sound decisions if they had not eaten the forbidden fruit?
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post #2 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-09-2008, 11:15 AM
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Man the bible is flawed. I believe in a higher being "god" whatever you want to call it, but the bible is just another book. It's the worlds greatest prank.

I'll show your president the same respect you showed mine.
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Man the bible is flawed. I believe in a higher being "god" whatever you want to call it, but the bible is just another book. It's the worlds greatest prank.
I'm really interested in this prank and why it was pulled.
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Bunch of kids sitting around going, I've got a sweet idea. Lets fuck with the world. Hey Jesus you mind if we use your name?

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post #5 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-09-2008, 12:07 PM
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I'll add a couple more:

How is it that Adam, who I'd argue was closer to God than any human since, was so unimpressed with God that he challenged his will? I mean, if God is all this and that, and so worthy of this and that, how is it that Adam was so quick to disobey? Why was his relationship with God and life in the garden so unfulfilling?

Why didn't Adam and Eve have any children before the fall? I find it strange how that fits together nicely in the story.

I think it's pretty safe to say, God wasn't shocked that the man he created in his image decided to do his own thing. As with most, if not all, the bible stories, God prefers to let man fall to the bottom doing things his own way then raise him up doing things God's way. That pretty much seems like the theme of the whole bible.

I'd say biblical free will is an intentional flaw set up in mankind. Dare I say a flaw to cater to God's ego?

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Starting a thread with 5 questions? This is going to be all over the place....

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Starting a thread with 5 questions? This is going to be all over the place....
It has only one focus.
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post #8 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-09-2008, 05:22 PM
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The "knowledge of good and evil" is referring to setting ones own standards of what is good and what is evil. You have been instructed on this topic before, but have once again lost your focus.
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post #9 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-10-2008, 07:29 AM Thread Starter
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The "knowledge of good and evil" is referring to setting ones own standards of what is good and what is evil. You have been instructed on this topic before, but have once again lost your focus.
Should one be punished for setting ones standards apart from the celestial police?
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Setting ones own standards will comes with consequences. Whether you experience those consequences is something you control.
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Setting ones own standards will comes with consequences. Whether you experience those consequences is something you control.
I want to see the verse that comes from.
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What do the Rosey Crucians, here, have to say about this matter?
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post #13 of 13 (permalink) Old 10-10-2008, 12:48 PM
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I want to see the verse that comes from.
You'd better get to reading then, you have much material to cover.
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