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post #1 of 3 (permalink) Old 09-28-2008, 11:11 PM Thread Starter
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The Sin of Unbelief, Paid For or Not?

A discussion on the atonement
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post #2 of 3 (permalink) Old 09-29-2008, 02:42 AM
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This speaks to a core doubt that led me away from Christianity, and later religion in altogether. It's the doubt in the basic personal choice man has in the matter. I still can't make heads or tails of that. Great topic, great vid.

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post #3 of 3 (permalink) Old 09-29-2008, 08:50 AM
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Doesn't the word believe necessitate the possibility of doubt or falsehood?
So the box has yet to be sealed?
What is the process to seal the box?

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EtymologyFrom be-/ge- + a short form of Old English ġelȳfan, (leafa).

[edit] Pronunciation(UK & US) IPA: /bɪˈliːv/, /bəˈliːv/, SAMPA: /bI"li:v/, /[email protected]"li:v/
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Hyphenation: be‧lieve

[edit] VerbInfinitive
to believe
Third person singular
Simple past
Past participle
Present participle

to believe (third-person singular simple present believes, present participle believing, simple past and past participle believed)

(transitive) To accept that someone is telling the truth.
Why did I ever believe you?
(transitive) To accept as true.
If you believe the numbers, you'll agree we need change.
(transitive) To consider likely.
I believe it might rain tomorrow.
(intransitive) To have religious faith; to believe in a greater truth.
After that night in the church, I believed.

[edit] Usage notesThe transitive verb believe and the phrasal verb believe in are similar but can have very different implications.
To “believe” someone or something means to accept specific pieces of information as truth: believe the news, believe the lead witness. To “believe a complete stranger” means to accept a stranger's story with little evidence.
To “believe in” someone or something means to place faith in that person or concept: believe in liberty, believe in God. To “believe in one's fellow man” means to place faith in mankind.
Meanings sometimes overlap. To believe in a religious text would also require affirming at least the major principles. To believe a religious text might likewise imply placing one's faith in it, in addition to accepting its statements as facts.
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