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The Catholic Church approves of the Theory of Evolution

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Main article: Humani Generis
In 1950, Pius XII promulgated Humani Generis which acknowledged that evolution might accurately describe the biological origins of human life, but at the same time criticized those who use it as a religion, who "imprudently and indiscreetly hold that evolution... explains the origin of all things". Catholics must believe, that the human soul was created immediately by God. Since the soul is a spiritual substance it is not brought into being through transformation of matter, but directly by God, whence the special uniqueness of each person.."

[108] fifty years later, Pope John Paul II, stating that scientic evidence now seemed to favour the evolutionary theory, upheld the distinction of Pius XII regarding the human soul."Even if the human body originates from pre-existent living matter, the spiritual soul is spontaneously created by God." [109]

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I've always believed in a creator, and I've always believed in evolution... I've never understood where the big argument was
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I've always believed in a creator, and I've always believed in evolution... I've never understood where the big argument was
Heathen....don't you know, people aren't animals? We're the image of God!

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I've mentioned this before in here, but everyone here cares about as much about the Catholic Church as they do scientific theory
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I'd like to think that Genesis offers a pretty good parable to the big bang, the Earth's geological history, and evolution, provided you don't mind broad brush strokes.

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OK then, is G#d evolving?
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OK then, is G#d evolving?
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Is the G#d of the old Testement, the New Testement, and the Koran the same G#d? If so, why is he/she different in each of the three books?
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Is the G#d of the old Testement, the New Testement, and the Koran the same G#d? If so, why is he/she different in each of the three books?
The God in the bible is consistent, although the way man approached him was different. He is the same forever. The god of the Quran is demonic, and is in no way holy.

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God is not different in the Old vs New Testament. It's the audience that's different.

Can't speak for the Allah of the Koran....
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God is not different in the Old vs New Testament. It's the audience that's different.

Can't speak for the Allah of the Koran....
In what way is the audience different?
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In what way is the audience different?
In the Old Testament, God's audience was the Israelites, the Chosen People.

In the New Testament, God's audience is all of humankind, both Jew and Gentile.
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In the Old Testament, God's audience was the Israelites, the Chosen People.

In the New Testament, God's audience is all of humankind, both Jew and Gentile.
Who's on stage?
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Stages are for actors.

In terms of your simple analogy however, God would be the producer.
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Stages are for actors.

In terms of your simple analogy however, God would be the producer.
Your blanket is very wet.
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You've got a booger hanging from your nose.
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Denying evolution at this point is retarded. There's too much evidence to back it up. As far as God evolving. Man is evolving God to their own desires. Pretty much eliminating any possibility of there being a "God" in any way shape or form that man has thought of. If there is a "God" chances are it's not a physical being but a form of pure energy. And where that God is, who knows? Ask a kid in america where God is and they point up. Ask where the devil is, and they point down. Ask a kid in china where God is and they point the opposite way of the American. Ask them where the devil is and they point the same direction that God is to an american kid.

It's all jacked up.
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Man is evolving God to their own desires. Pretty much eliminating any possibility of there being a "God" in any way shape or form that man has thought of. If there is a "God" chances are it's not a physical being but a form of pure energy.
It's all jacked up.

That would be Spirit...pure living spirit. No believer will tell you that God is physical.

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That would be Spirit...pure living spirit. No believer will tell you that God is physical.
What is Spirit?
Is it like what the indians talk about in nature?
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That would be Spirit...pure living spirit. No believer will tell
you that God is physical.
Then how is that we are made in God's image?

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Then how is that we are made in God's image?

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Easy, God is Spirit, pure spirit. You didn't think He had a body did you? We are built spiritually immortal. A mirror of an eternal God. Where we spend that "forever" is our choice.

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Easy, God is Spirit, pure spirit. You didn't think He had a body did you? We are built spiritually immortal. A mirror of an eternal God. Where we spend that "forever" is our choice.
Exactly what I was thinking, since God is pure spirit. with no physical manifestation. He has NO image.

So try again, how is that man is made in God's image?

Read Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him"

Sounds like the author was conceited and misguided.
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The Spirit of God is reflected in mankind, part of His Creation. That is the "image" referred to by the passage from Genesis that you quoted.
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Exactly what I was thinking, since God is pure spirit. with no physical manifestation. He has NO image.

So try again, how is that man is made in God's image?

Read Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him"

Sounds like the author was conceited and misguided.

You need to drop your thinking below the surface. Why do you think something that is spirit has no image??? You are thinking in terms of our 3D world. Why can a spirit have no image? Because you haven't seen one?? We are made in the "image " of God. i.e. immortal in spirit, just as He is. A mirror image can be a description given to two similar things with image being irrelevant.

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