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Tithing??

Do you tithe(sp) 10% of your earnings?? We had a discussion about it at work today and got mixed answers.

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I do, but some people don't think it's still a requirement https://www.dfwstangs.net/forums/showthread.php?t=339936
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and this matters to......?????
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yes. and then i give talisman the next 10%

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I skim 10% out of the tray when it comes by. If God didn't want me to, he wouldn't have given me free will.
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I skim 10% out of the tray when it comes by. If God didn't want me to, he wouldn't have given me free will.

thats why i always sit behind you, so you dont take my scrilla.

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I may have a business proposition for ya


We could make billions.... Or maybe even MILLIONS!!


Just on a side note, my lovely wife inadvertantly found herself in an arguement about this very thing at work a few months ago. Apparently, a... Christian... was telling her churches were not businesses. She asked why a place that wasn't a business needed a full time accountant. He doesn't argue with her any more.
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yes. and then i give talisman the next 10%

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We could make billions.... Or maybe even MILLIONS!!


Just on a side note, my lovely wife inadvertantly found herself in an arguement about this very thing at work a few months ago. Apparently, a... Christian... was telling her churches were not businesses. She asked why a place that wasn't a business needed a full time accountant. He doesn't argue with her any more.
Because money management, whatever it may be used for, is needed when it's coming in. If a church uses the money coming in to assist in carrying out God's Will, they're still accountable for showing where it went.
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Because money management, whatever it may be used for, is needed when it's coming in. If a church uses the money coming in to assist in carrying out God's Will, they're still accountable for showing where it went.

Not to mention if the IRS audits them they better be able to show where every penny went.

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Because money management, whatever it may be used for, is needed when it's coming in. If a church uses the money coming in to assist in carrying out God's Will, they're still accountable for showing where it went.

So much money coming in, that they needed to hire someone specificlly just to manage it. It isn't a business though. I'm sure the preacher is so pious that he is driving a an 82 Honda with 300K miles on it, not a brand new Caddy or anything like that.
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So much money coming in, that they needed to hire someone specificlly just to manage it. It isn't a business though. I'm sure the preacher is so pious that he is driving a an 82 Honda with 300K miles on it, not a brand new Caddy or anything like that.
You need to see my preacher's car. LMFAO!
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You need to see my preacher's car. LMFAO!
You should see some of the preachers income statements. When I was doing mortgages I was shocked. I'm in the wrong business for sure.
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You should see some of the preachers income statements. When I was doing mortgages I was shocked. I'm in the wrong business for sure.
They're public record... no big deal, from what I see.
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You should see some of the preachers income statements. When I was doing mortgages I was shocked. I'm in the wrong business for sure.


We lived next door to a preacher growing up. He was a really nice guy. Sure didn't spare any expense when it came to living a lavish lifestyle though.
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They're public record... no big deal, from what I see.

I did subprime loans. So preachers making $150k a year with bad credit. I guess all those 10%'s add up.
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I can't answer for all of them, now.
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I can't answer for all of them, now.
I don't expect you to. I'm just telling you what I saw on a regular basis.
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I may be a fan of clergy molestation humor, but it doesn't make me the punchline.



Damn it, you deleted your post. lol
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I don't expect you to. I'm just telling you what I saw on a regular basis.
Corruption within the church will get worse before it gets better.
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Damn it, you deleted your post. lol
Haha, it was somewhat inappropriate itself, sorry.
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Haha, it was somewhat inappropriate itself, sorry.
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Our preachers's wife drove an Astrovan without reverse for a year and a half
Leave it to a preacher's wife to never back it up...
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I believe everyone in the ministry should remain accountable and live above reproach for the sake of the people they are serving, but what kills me is how people complain so much about what their pastor does with the money. I have never heard anybody gripe about Bill Gates and his money when he charges us ridicules prices for software that has minor upgrades every two years. Nobody cares. But when it comes to the church how dare the pastor drive a nicer car than most of the people in the church. I know some pastors have taken atvantage, but just because one police officer oversteps his authority does not cause me to hate all police officers.
The truth is this, sit back and watch, listen to who gripes the most about tithing and you will see it is mostky the ones who dont tithe...most people who have settled the who;e tithing issue and are actively tithing...realize once they release it unto God they have sown their seed.
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I believe everyone in the ministry should remain accountable and live above reproach for the sake of the people they are serving, but what kills me is how people complain so much about what their pastor does with the money. I have never heard anybody gripe about Bill Gates and his money when he charges us ridicules prices for software that has minor upgrades every two years. Nobody cares. But when it comes to the church how dare the pastor drive a nicer car than most of the people in the church. I know some pastors have taken atvantage, but just because one police officer oversteps his authority does not cause me to hate all police officers.
The truth is this, sit back and watch, listen to who gripes the most about tithing and you will see it is mostky the ones who dont tithe...most people who have settled the who;e tithing issue and are actively tithing...realize once they release it unto God they have sown their seed.
Sadly, as I've witnessed in church, the people who don't contribute (either time/money/etc.) are the ones who gripe about the church's budget or the disbursement of funding to missions or outreach programs.

Although, my tasking isn't finished when I give my money. I am also responsible for making sure that I give to the appropriate place and assist in overseeing that the funds are used to aid in the spreading of God's Word and love. Most people end it at the offering tray.
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I will give you something to consider. I will keep things small/simple just for ease.

I have a business that takes in $110, it cost $100 to operate for a year, how much do I tithe? I say $1 because I only got ahead $10 for the year. (notice how I am using 10% on everything)

All of us are considered a business by the government! In the operation of this business there are certain operational expenses such as basic food, clothing, shelter, TAXES, etc. that are always there. Now from your wages (income) these expenses are deducted. At what point is this business considered to be profitable? Do you tithe before/after taxes? What about "business" expenses to make your wages (transportation,meals,etc)? See where this is going?

The best idea I have listened to about modern tithing is this : What you spend/earn above what is necessary for basic living is what you tithe off of. Or an easy way is, what every you spend on entertainment (cars included ) give an EQUAL amount to the religious group of your choice. I have found this be much more enlightening than you would believe.

And now for my final rant. The FULL TIME leader of a religous group should have the lifestyle of the average member. AND should have to do some other work than just religion. This may only be basic help around a meeting place or his/her own dwelling, but manual labor never killed anyone. Are they getting into religion for the money or for the calling placed in their heart?

I would like to hear any feedback on this.

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if money corrupts, why would you want to corrupt your religion?

money should have no place in religion.
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Money is many peoples greatest treasure. That's why they are compelled to share it by their church.
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if money corrupts, why would you want to corrupt your religion?

money should have no place in religion.
It is not money itself that corrupts, it is the LOVE of money that corrupt.

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