Originally Posted by Fastback
Yeah, I beat on my chest after that video... help me God a sinner!
That's a great prayer to have. Fills you up with the Good Stuff. I think "me and Jesus got our own thing going" is a reference to being deceived about living a sinful lifestyle or such. Because Jesus is our Friend and Love , He's not going to have our "own thing" outside the Word... see what I mean?
Just because you don't believe or experience your "own thing" with Jesus outside of the Bible doesn't mean that others don't, though.
Have you ever researched the prophetic gift before? If someone's gift is of prophecy, then they very much have the potential to have Jesus come to them in the flesh and speak to them or the Holy Spirit talk to them audibly. There's a guy named Graham Cooke: www.grahamcooke.com
He's a modern day prophet. Not the kind that predicts the future. The kind that has a relationship with God like the prophets of the Old Testament. The kind that God will speak through to congregations. The prophets in the Old Testament were always warning the Jews about coming destruction, so yes, they had to prophecy about a doom and gloom future. But Jesus is coming and doom and gloom is not our future. So, you get a more loving message, because God is pleased with His people accepting His son. His wrath is on the world on the last day, not on us. God speaks kindly to His people, urging them to not be distracted on their journey into the nature of God. He wants us to really know Him first. Knowing who God is and what His nature truly is is one of the most important things you'll ever learn, and should be the foundation of your belief and your life.
I'm not sure that you can't ask God for the gift of prophecy or if He just chooses people. Maybe if you ask for it, it means He's chosen you? I don't know. Not sure how that works just yet. Either way, though, my wife has also known a guy that had the gift of prophecy, and God spoke to this man audibly too. There are times when God would hide Himself and only speak in the spiritual realm and could only be heard through the heart/spirit. But there are times of manifestation where they hear God audibly. David spoke of these different times in the Psalms. He manifests Himself in the physical realm to teach, but He's so distracting that He's got to hide Himself so you can learn what He's taught you and really grab hold of deep truths. He has to be hidden so He's not a distraction. Look at the disciples; they had no clue what was going on, even though He was telling them flat out, "I'm going to be killed soon. Get ready for it. I tell you this ahead of time so when you see it, you'll remember I said it and you'll believe me." They still didn't understand! But once He was gone, they started remembering and understanding everything. There's purpose in all of the ways He does things.
Anyway, check out Graham Cooke. He doesn't have churches of his own. He's on the ministry team at The Mission church in Vacaville, CA. He has sort of his own ministry of helping people around the world and speaking & teaching. He takes no salary from anyone, but says that instead he loves praying in his money and trusting God to provide. He said when he was first exploring his boundries with God, he asked, "So, can I ask for a million dollars?" God says, "Sure...but I'll ask you to give it away." So Graham asks, "If I ask for 10 million dollars, can I keep a million?" God says, "Yeah, that's fine." Then Graham says, "Today, it's 10 years later and I'm happy to anounce that I've given away 10 million dollars." In other words, God provided Graham a little over a million dollars a year for 10 years without any job or anything, and Graham gave away 10 million and kept one million ($100,000 a year). I think he said you can check his tax records if you like, or something to that effect. lol
He preaches that same type of function of God too. He rarely talks about money, though. He's usually talking about blessings and love and how God is relentlessly kind to him. He says that it's God's intention to overfill us with love and blessings so that we have so much we have to give it away to others. The money was sort of a reflection of that, and showed God that Graham trusted God completely with his survival. That's total trust in God. I've heard others who have this gift of giving (or something like that). God would tell them to give everything they have away to someone (like a widow or whomever). They'd wrestle with it for a while then finally go ahead and do it. One guy did this...gave away something like $25,000 of his stuff, everything he owned. 5 days later, a guy walks up and says, "I don't know why, but God wants me to give you $50,000 dollars." Now, those guys are of a completely different ministry than Graham Cooke. But the stories are interesting from the givers. I'd love to be able to give like that. It'd be awesome. I think my new goal is to start trying to give more and more, because we can't outgive God. I want to get to the point where God's relentlessly blessing my family so I no longer worry about money anymore and I can give away money constantly to help others. That'd be awesome.