Originally Posted by SVT93Style
No real records......I dont even know where to begin with this comment. You really need to dig a bit deeper on the subject before you jump into a topic you obviously know nothing about, and that is fine but remember that before you try to insult me.
1. 5,000 copies of the New Test. manuscripts copied in Greek.
2. 10,000 in Latin.
3. 8000 more in languages such as Ethiopic, Slavic, and Armenian.
4. 2000 misc.
Total New Test. manuscripts = over 24,000 All say the same thing, with variation in spelling but 99.5% of these match up.
If I heard 25 people at the end of 30 games of Telephone games all saying "Jesus is Lord" I would figure this was the original statement.......When 24,000 manuscripts say virtually the same thing......well.
And that is just the New. Test.....don't even make me start on the Old Test.
Do some research. Don't listen to what other say or what you think you know....dig into yourself....Seek truth, and you will find it regardless of it holds up to your orignial opinion or teaches you something new. Truth at any angle, now matter, who or what says its can't change.
Not trying to insult you... those records you quote, were written down hundreds, sometimes thousands of years after the events of which they pertain... before that time they were passed down verbally, with no verifiable written records.
Translations after the fact, are irrelevant. They're translated from a written record, something that can be crosschecked and verified as an accurate translation (for the most part, though some language, even written, barriers still exist thus the ever present need to continually interpret/reinterpret). Accurate translation of what's written, doesn't imply accuracy of the original context.
As I said a few posts earlier... it's not hard to get it right, when the written word is right there in front of you. It's when it's passed from mouth to ear that things tend to get skewed/altered/distorted/misinterpreted.
Which is exactly how the stories of the bible were "preserved" until people started to write them down... hundreds, if not thousands of years after the stories happened.
Again, wasn't trying to insult you, just implying that to believe that just because Jewish people could once recite the Torah/OT, that the accuracy must be legit, is a bit naive. Again... they memorized written words, taken from thousands of years of spoken stories. Who's to say at some point in that thousands of years of the longest Telephone Game in history, that the original message wasn't misinterpreted... who's to say it wasn't intentionally altered along the way? You're welcome to believe the message was never altered in any way. I personally don't put that much faith in man when it comes to anything that could potentially raise a man (or a group) to seemingly unimaginable heights of power/influence. Greed can lead even the most devout "man of god" to do things quite uncharacteristic.