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Doubt theres any in here but..

non believers read this. I think it puts things in a differnt perspective.

God Exists

The Bible says to have an answer for why you believe, to those who ask
you.
This is a good example of an answer to one of the most common reasons
people give for ignoring God and His goodness. A man went to a
barbershop to
have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work,
they
began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and
various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God,
the
barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.

"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't
exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would
there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither
suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all
of
these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't
want
to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left
the
shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with
long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and
unkempt.

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said
to
the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am
a
barber. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did,
there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like
that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens, is people do not come to me."

"Exactly!"- affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES
exist!
What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's
why
there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

BE BLESSED AND BE A BLESSING
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Ditto, I've read that somewhere before
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Was posted here about a year ago, as well as has been floating around email for a while too.
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non believers read this. I think it puts things in a differnt perspective.

God Exists

The Bible says to have an answer for why you believe, to those who ask
you.
This is a good example of an answer to one of the most common reasons
people give for ignoring God and His goodness. A man went to a
barbershop to
have his hair cut and his beard trimmed. As the barber began to work,
they
began to have a good conversation. They talked about so many things and
various subjects. When they eventually touched on the subject of God,
the
barber said: "I don't believe that God exists."

"Why do you say that?" asked the customer.


"Well, you just have to go out in the street to realize that God doesn't
exist. Tell me, if God exists, would there be so many sick people? Would
there be abandoned children? If God existed, there would be neither
suffering nor pain. I can't imagine a loving a God who would allow all
of
these things."

The customer thought for a moment, but didn't respond because he didn't
want
to start an argument. The barber finished his job and the customer left
the
shop. Just after he left the barbershop, he saw a man in the street with
long, stringy, dirty hair and an untrimmed beard. He looked dirty and
unkempt.

The customer turned back and entered the barber shop again and he said
to
the barber: "You know what? Barbers do not exist."

"How can you say that?" asked the surprised barber. "I am here, and I am
a
barber. And I just worked on you!"

"No!" the customer exclaimed. "Barbers don't exist because if they did,
there would be no people with dirty long hair and untrimmed beards, like
that man outside."

"Ah, but barbers DO exist! What happens, is people do not come to me."

"Exactly!"- affirmed the customer. "That's the point! God, too, DOES
exist!
What happens, is, people don't go to Him and do not look for Him. That's
why
there's so much pain and suffering in the world."

BE BLESSED AND BE A BLESSING

What happens to little boys that come to Jesus in the house of God? They get molested by leaders of the church.

If God won't protect a child, what makes you think he'll protect you. There is no God. I see the proof in everyday life.


I'm wasting my time, heading to the computer forum to see if you posted up the email you got, asking you to forward a message to 10 of your friends to receive a $20 dollar check from Microsoft.

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I'm wasting my time,
Sounds like your wasting your life. If you have proof that there is no God I'd like to see it b/c if you do, you must be holding back some important proof that the rest of man kind can come up with
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Why must you be, such an angry young man.....


you're fooling yourself.....


what other groups do you label and stereotype?

Christianphobes are something else.....


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What happens to little boys that come to Jesus in the house of God? They get molested by leaders of the church.

If God won't protect a child, what makes you think he'll protect you. There is no God. I see the proof in everyday life.


I'm wasting my time, heading to the computer forum to see if you posted up the email you got, asking you to forward a message to 10 of your friends to receive a $20 dollar check from Microsoft.

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Sounds like your wasting your life. If you have proof that there is no God I'd like to see it b/c if you do, you must be holding back some important proof that the rest of man kind can come up with
I'm not the one wasting my time serving someone or something that does not exist. So it would be you wasting your life and money. I'd like to see some proof of your god and don't sling any bible propaganda at me, the bible was written by man.

I'd also like to know where your god was during the holocaust or the cambodian killing fields.
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Why must you be, such an angry young man.....


you're fooling yourself.....


what other groups do you label and stereotype?

Christianphobes are something else.....

No one's angry. I just find some christians gullability laughable (i.e. the creator of this thread).



I'd rather be a christianphobe than a brainwashed mindless follower of christian mythology any day. Shouldn't you be in the politics forum labeling those who disagree with you liberals?
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I'm not the one wasting my time serving someone or something that does not exist. So it would be you wasting your life and money. I'd like to see some proof of your god and don't sling any bible propaganda at me, the bible was written by man.

I'd also like to know where your god was during the holocaust or the cambodian killing fields.
Your the one whom said you had (or see) proof God didnt exist. (Dont spin the question) So where or what is it? Put up or shut up... Or are you waisting my time and everybody eles in this thread.. God chooses whom he wants to reveal Himself to, I do not do the choosing.

BTW, I thought you were avoiding the Jesus and Pals forum? I guess you couldnt keep away.

Go ahead and keep responding back, I know how you like to get the last word in, and Im sure you would like to use some of your colorfull adjectives.

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Shouldn't you be in the politics forum labeling those who disagree with you liberals?
Shouldnt you be in the backporch or picture post forum cheering on pornography or profanity
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Your the one whom said you had (or see) proof God didnt exist. (Dont spin the question) So where or what is it? Put up or shut up... Or are you waisting my time and everybody eles in this thread.. God chooses whom he wants to reveal Himself to, I do not do the choosing.

BTW, I thought you were avoiding the Jesus and Pals forum? I guess you couldnt keep away.

Go ahead and keep responding back, I know how you like to get the last word in, and Im sure you would like to use some of your colorfull adjectives.
I love how you repeatedly avoid my question about children being molested by priest. Anytime I bring it up, you ignore it. I guess thats because it's excellent proof that your god does not exist.
Want more proof, look at the Holocaust.

Now who's trying to spin who? Where's your proof?

By avoiding the Jesus and Pals forum, I can't be a thorn in your side. You're usually too scared to post outside this forum, especially on the back porch. I guess if I got smacked around in threads as much as you did, I'd avoid the back porch as well. You are weak, and it's quite pathetic.

Last word? LMAO, I must frustrate you to no end for you to make that comment. That comment is hypocrisy at it's finest. Everytime I blow one of your assanine remarks out of the water, you feel the need to follow up with something, regardless if it's off topic.
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lol...is that supposed to be a cut down?

Shouldn't you be in the parts forum ripping someone off?
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What happens to little boys that come to Jesus in the house of God? They get molested by leaders of the church.
Come on dude, you cant lump all of Christianity in one group. Your talking about a denomination that many of us here do not agree with and believe has alot of false teachings and wicked leaders.

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I'm not the one wasting my time serving someone or something that does not exist. So it would be you wasting your life and money. I'd like to see some proof of your god and don't sling any bible propaganda at me, the bible was written by man.

I'd also like to know where your god was during the holocaust or the cambodian killing fields.
Were is proof that God exists? ME. Using the old cliche`, I once was lost but now I am found, I was blind but now I see. I now what kind of life I personally had before I came to Christ, and I honestly believe that I would be dead had I not found new life in Him. I dont know what more to say, I have seen the power of God in my own life and others around me. Thats all the proof that I need.

Many people always "prove" that God does not exist by using things like the Holocaust, immorality in the church, the Crusades, Cambodia... but on the other hand no one wants to have a God out there that is a control freak that stops you from doing whatever you want to do. These things happen because there is sin in the world and because there is a Devil wanting the very soul of everyone on earth. God allows us to make our own decisions, right and wrong, and we have to live with the outcome. In the end we all will be judged for everything we do, we will be rewarded for the good and we will be punished for the bad.
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No one's angry. I just find some christians gullability laughable (i.e. the creator of this thread).

I'd rather be a christianphobe than a brainwashed mindless follower of christian mythology any day. Shouldn't you be in the politics forum labeling those who disagree with you liberals?
Brainwashed mindless follower? Are lumping everyone in the same group again?
Actually the majority of Christians are conservative not liberal.
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By avoiding the Jesus and Pals forum, I can't be a thorn in your side. You're usually too scared to post outside this forum, especially on the back porch. I guess if I got smacked around in threads as much as you did, I'd avoid the back porch as well. You are weak, and it's quite pathetic.
I know this is directed more toward Lance but let me say that maybe one of the reasons he doesn't go in there much is because of the immorality that flies around in there on a daily basis. Also, if there was a place that you did not feel welcome, would you continue to go there? Probably not, why should he go somewhere he doesn't feel welcome?

I on the other hand, could careless what people think of me, I am going to say my piece whether people like it or not. I think that may be one thing that people like about me. I have made a few enemies around here but I have made a few friends too. One thing is for sure, people may disagree with me but in the end if I see them out in public I am still going to sit down and have dinner and a beer with them and talk about things we have in common and I am not going to push my morality on anyone.

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I love how you repeatedly avoid my question about children being molested by priest. Anytime I bring it up, you ignore it. I guess thats because it's excellent proof that your god does not exist.
Its just not worth the time b/c its so far off the deep end. Its kinda like saying if God did exist, He wouldnt let 9/11 happen. Your ignorance of God is shown deeply in this comment.

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Want more proof, look at the Holocaust.
Ever heard of sin or free will? Guess not....

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Now who's trying to spin who? Where's your proof?
I asked you for yours first b/c you said you had some, but yet you just have posted up your opininions and yet to give any kind of proof. So I guess you were lying? or full of it? I am not the one claiming to have proof. Like I said, put up or shut up.

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By avoiding the Jesus and Pals forum, I can't be a thorn in your side. You're usually too scared to post outside this forum, especially on the back porch. I guess if I got smacked around in threads as much as you did, I'd avoid the back porch as well. You are weak, and it's quite pathetic.
Its called self control, maybe you ought to try it sometime....
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Last word? LMAO, I must frustrate you to no end for you to make that comment. That comment is hypocrisy at it's finest.
LOL, do you know what hypocrisy even is?
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Everytime I blow one of your assanine remarks out of the water, you feel the need to follow up with something, regardless if it's off topic.
If my comments about you were off topic, than your whole first post is off topic of this thread.
Hollywood strikes 2, let the personal attacks continue,,,, LOL!
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lol...is that supposed to be a cut down?
Nope, just shows the hypocrisy behind your post to Hookem.
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Shouldn't you be in the parts forum ripping someone off?
Nope
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Its just not worth the time b/c its so far off the deep end. Its kinda like saying if God did exist, He wouldnt let 9/11 happen. Your ignorance of God is shown deeply in this comment.



More or less you don't know so you'll just give some vague generic response. Again, you dodge the question with no logical explanation.


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Ever heard of sin or free will? Guess not....


So those people chose to die horrifically? One man goes on a killing spree and it's ok because a few million people like yourself are not perfect.? Where do I sign up for this?

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I asked you for yours first b/c you said you had some, but yet you just have posted up your opininions and yet to give any kind of proof. So I guess you were lying? or full of it? I am not the one claiming to have proof. Like I said, put up or shut up.


And I listed my proof, still waiting on yours. Nice attempt to try to spin what what I said. You base your life on blind faith, nothing more. If you can't read the writing on the wall, I can't help you.

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Its called self control, maybe you ought to try it sometime....

self control? Fear would be the word you were looking for.

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Hypocrisy: An act or instance of such falseness.
Let me break this down for you. You accuse me of doing something I've seen you do on many occasions, yet you deny. Understand?

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Hollywood strikes 2, let the personal attacks continue,,,, LOL!
You missed the point. My point is, you'll go off topic just to get the last word in. I guess I shouldn't have expected you to get that, your reading comphrehension is below average. You only made that comment in hoping to run me off, so you could get that last word in. I guess you construe that as some kind of victory?
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Actually the majority of Christians are conservative not liberal.

I missed a comma on that remark. I wasn't calling christians liberals, I was commenting on how 281R and Hook'em label anyone that disagrees with them, liberals.

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Come on dude, you cant lump all of Christianity in one group. Your talking about a denomination that many of us here do not agree with and believe has alot of false teachings and wicked leaders.


Catholicism is not the only religion that has this problem Moondog. It was a generalized statement in that, that problem is not prejudice to just one group.


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I on the other hand, could careless what people think of me, I am going to say my piece whether people like it or not. I think that may be one thing that people like about me. I have made a few enemies around here but I have made a few friends too. One thing is for sure, people may disagree with me but in the end if I see them out in public I am still going to sit down and have dinner and a beer with them and talk about things we have in common and I am not going to push my morality on anyone.


Moondog, I have no problem with you. I may disagree with you from a religous standpoint and a few other areas, however, you seem like a genuine guy and someone I do respect and like. If I saw you in public, I would talk with you, etc. Lance on the other hand, my issues with him go far beyond these recent debates in this forum. Ridiculous statements in politics, comments he's made in past arguments prior to the arrival in this forum and the stunt he pulled back when we were friends. On top of that, I think he is a hypocrite and a liar and I have no respect for anyone like that. My problems don't stop there but there is no reason for me to keep going on that issue as i've made my point on how I feel about him.
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More or less you don't know so you'll just give some vague generic response. Again, you dodge the question with no logical explanation.
More or less I have an explanation that I dont try to pass on as fact or proof like someone does.
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So those people chose to die horrifically?
Maybe in your mind they do.... I clearly didnt state that they did

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One man goes on a killing spree and it's ok because a few million people like yourself are not perfect.?
In what twisted world are you in. Where have I ever said its ok? (Talk about being off the topic)
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And I listed my proof, still waiting on yours.
Sorry, you listed your opinion and no proof or fact.
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Nice attempt to try to spin what what I said. You base your life on blind faith, nothing more. If you can't read the writing on the wall, I can't help you.
And you lead your life in blind faith and bitterness. Meaning blind faith in the Macro-Evolutionary process no one can prove and the bitterness of your obvious hate twords Christians.
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self control? Fear would be the word you were looking for.
Thanks for filling in my statement, gee what was I thinking, I forgot Steven knows best.... Right....

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Hypocrisy: An act or instance of such falseness.
So did you know what it meant or did you have to look it up on dictionary.com?

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Let me break this down for you.
Yes, yes, please do....

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You accuse me of doing something I've seen you do on many occasions, yet you deny. Understand?
I dont deny ever being a hypocrite, I dont deny being a sinner, do you?



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You missed the point.
I think a lot of people miss your point..

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My point is, you'll go off topic just to get the last word in.
Well Im sorry if that is the way you took it, would you like me to retract it so you feel open to get the last word in?

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I guess I shouldn't have expected youto get that, your reading comphrehension is below average.
Sorrrry tacheher h9oollywoold, I';ll tryllll tu improoove...

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You only made that comment in hoping to run me off, so you could get that last word in.
Run you off? Never..... We love to have you in here belittling people...
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I guess you construe that as some kind of victory?
Victory is already won, Christ died for mankind's sins and in the end every mouth will confess He is Lord. Hollywood, it sounds like you need some serious prayers.
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Moondog, I have no problem with you.
Right? Your going to say that just after insulting every believer in the tread with your no God speach.
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Lance on the other hand, my issues with him go far beyond these recent debates in this forum. Ridiculous statements in politics, comments he's made in past arguments prior to the arrival in this forum and the stunt he pulled back when we were friends.
Steven, I dont know if you get this, but me and Moondog have a lot of the same views. So I guess its ok for you to respectfully disagree with Moondog but to me be a jerk?

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On top of that, I think he is a hypocrite and a liar and I have no respect for anyone like that.
1. We are all hypocrites or have been that way at one more times.
2. We all have lied. Have you never lied? I doubt it, so do you not have any respect for yourself? since you dont have respect for liars or hypocrites. So what this stunt that I pulled when we were so called friends? All as I remember is you accusing me of selling you a NOS kit that wouldnt work on your car or something like that when you knew I had not even hooked it up to my car and including I went out of my way to go and ask serveral people all stating that it would work and even before I did that when you first told me I called the guy up that sold it to me and started griping at him. Is this what all your bitterness is about?
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Moondog, I have no problem with you. I may disagree with you from a religous standpoint and a few other areas, however, you seem like a genuine guy and someone I do respect and like. If I saw you in public, I would talk with you, etc. Lance on the other hand, my issues with him go far beyond these recent debates in this forum. Ridiculous statements in politics, comments he's made in past arguments prior to the arrival in this forum and the stunt he pulled back when we were friends. On top of that, I think he is a hypocrite and a liar and I have no respect for anyone like that. My problems don't stop there but there is no reason for me to keep going on that issue as i've made my point on how I feel about him.
Well, I would rather not get in between the two of you and your arguement, if infact that is what this is. I dont know what happened between you two, and frankly, I really dont care because it is none of my business. I am friends with Lance and I would like to think of you as a friend also. It is just that some of your comments seemed to be directed at Christians in general, but if I took your statements wrong then I am sorry. But I will still stand up for Lance and what he believes just like I would stand up for you, or anyone else that I consider a friend, if I thought you or they were being treated unfairly. Thats what friends do.
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Well, I would rather not get in between the two of you and your arguement, if infact that is what this is. I dont know what happened between you two, and frankly, I really dont care because it is none of my business. I am friends with Lance and I would like to think of you as a friend also. It is just that some of your comments seemed to be directed at Christians in general, but if I took your statements wrong then I am sorry. But I will still stand up for Lance and what he believes just like I would stand up for you, or anyone else that I consider a friend, if I thought you or they were being treated unfairly. Thats what friends do.
No problem. Most friends do that for one another so I understand your defending him. When I come in here and make a remark, believe me, I've come to expect others to jump in. I do the same for my friends.

As far as taking my statements, no apology necessary. Although my comments were not directed at you personally, it's easy to see how you took them personally.
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No problem. Most friends do that for one another so I understand your defending him. When I come in here and make a remark, believe me, I've come to expect others to jump in. I do the same for my friends.

As far as taking my statements, no apology necessary. Although my comments were not directed at you personally, it's easy to see how you took them personally.
Now that we are good, you can go back to your van.

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Right? Your going to say that just after insulting every believer in the tread with your no God speach.

Unlike you, Moondog and a couple of others respect others beliefs. You on the other hand do not. My original post had nothing to do with you, but you were quick to jump on the attack wagon. No problem there, i've done that myself. I don't believe in God, accept it and move on.


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Steven, I dont know if you get this, but me and Moondog have a lot of the same views. So I guess its ok for you to respectfully disagree with Moondog but to me be a jerk?

Moondog doens't come across as a self-richeous asshole. That better than you attititude you have is annoying. Not only that, he is much better at explaining his beliefs and doesen't make assanine comments and belittle those who disagrees with him. And before you accuse me of the same (which your sure to do as thats a redundency you explore anytime you have nothing to reply with) I openly admit that i've disrespected you.

Continueing on...
Moondog does not grasp at straws for a comment, just so he can have the last word, such as you did in your previous reply to this one, example:

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Hypocrisy: An act or instance of such falseness.
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So did you know what it meant or did you have to look it up on dictionary.com?

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Let me break this down for you.
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Yes, yes, please do....

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1. We are all hypocrites or have been that way at one more times.
2. We all have lied. Have you never lied? I doubt it, so do you not have any respect for yourself? since you dont have respect for liars or hypocrites.

Telling a lie and being a liar are two totally different things. I've told lies, I would be lying if I said otherwise. However, I don't continously do it for personal gain or just for the hell of it as i'm accusing you of doing. I work daily to become a better person. I know that is shocking as you have this belief that atheist have no morals and are pure evil.

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So what this stunt that I pulled when we were so called friends? All as I remember is you accusing me of selling you a NOS kit that wouldnt work on your car or something like that when you knew I had not even hooked it up to my car and including I went out of my way to go and ask serveral people all stating that it would work and even before I did that when you first told me I called the guy up that sold it to me and started griping at him. Is this what all your bitterness is about?
First, lets clear up one thing-my bitterness to you has very little to do with this Nitrous kit, as I firmly believe I should have been more aware and less trusting. Buyer beware, it's my fault, I accept that. However it does enrage me now that you continually try to play innocent in the whole deal and accept zero responsibility for the whole thing. I had 3 different people (one of them the installer) look at that so called complete kit and tell me I was missing several things. You can say whatever you want, I bought a complete kit from Tex on the board and saw first hand what components were missing. Not only that, I later learned the real reason you got rid of that kit. I bought a newer, complete kit for cheaper than what you sold that half ass kit to me for. An individual who will remain nameless informed me of the price you paid for that kit. You made a profit on me and saved your hide on a botched deal.

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Now that we are good, you can go back to your van.

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Unlike you, Moondog and a couple of others respect others beliefs. You on the other hand do not.
Give me one example where I have not respected your beliefs?

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That better than you attititude you have is annoying.
Its kinda funny but I feel like I am getting the same additude back.

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I openly admit that i've disrespected you.
I could be kinder to you I admit also.
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Continueing on...
Moondog does not grasp at straws for a comment, just so he can have the last word, such as you did in your previous reply to this one, example:

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Hypocrisy: An act or instance of such falseness.
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So did you know what it meant or did you have to look it up on dictionary.com?
I'll admit it was a cheap shot, but these things really get old.
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Telling a lie and being a liar are two totally different things.
Respectfully I see them the same way, either way your in the act of a lie.

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I've told lies, I would be lying if I said otherwise. However, I don't continously do it for personal gain or just for the hell of it as i'm accusing you of doing. I work daily to become a better person. I know that is shocking as you have this belief that atheist have no morals and are pure evil.
I dont think you have no morals, Im sure your parents brought you up well as did mine. But your color adjectives comment to me in the other post and name calling in that other post on the backporch didnt make me think much highly of you.


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First, lets clear up one thing-my bitterness to you has very little to do with this Nitrous kit, as I firmly believe I should have been more aware and less trusting. Buyer beware, it's my fault, I accept that. However it does enrage me now that you continually try to play innocent in the whole deal and accept zero responsibility for the whole thing. I had 3 different people (one of them the installer) look at that so called complete kit and tell me I was missing several things. You can say whatever you want, I bought a complete kit from Tex on the board and saw first hand what components were missing. Not only that, I later learned the real reason you got rid of that kit.

I bought a newer, complete kit for cheaper than what you sold that half ass kit to me for. An individual who will remain nameless informed me of the price you paid for that kit. You made a profit on me and saved your hide on a botched deal.
Please tell me more about that deal, b/c I think your assuming that I know more than I do, like what parts are missing, b/c I verified with a good friend of mine before I even considered selling it) that has NOS (and hooked his up his self ) that all the pieces were their expect for the pills. If you are saying that stuff was missing please tell me what? If stuff was truly missing than I guess I would have been the one screwed when trying to hook it up, my intentions of selling it were to pay for a cobra front bumper on my last car. I dont know what other intentions you were talking about. But if you honestly feel that you were cheated out of the deal please tell me how we can reasonably fix the misunderstanding. If you dont mind telling, how much money did you loose out on the deal?

<--- I guess it was really my fault for selling something I had no clue about or if it was complete or not. I was told it was complete so that is what I thought, if it wasnt? I apologize greatly.
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This is one of the reasons I hardly EVER post in this Forum. Hell, people are more respectful of others opinions in the Terror Forum. I guess that probably makes most of you happy. After all, without anyone challanging your own thoughts on a subject you can further isolate yourselves into thinking the rest of the world is full of 'evil doers' that would be lost without you. It must burn some of you guys up to know that we do just fine on a daily basis without your beliefs permiating our lives. Moondog, for the most part I tip my beer to you. We've had words several times, but you're one of the few people who I've got respect for around here. Keep it real, homie.
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Moondog, for the most part I tip my beer to you. We've had words several times, but you're one of the few people who I've got respect for around here. Keep it real, homie.
Well, I have recently been trying to make some changes in my own personal life when it comes to portraying my beliefs. Sometimes you can get a better responce from people not by what you say but by what you do. So even though I will still debate I will also try to refrain from the name calling and personal attacks.

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with the good comes evil. yes God is in control, but has vowed to let man kinda do as they please. Man is weak and is often controlled by those that are evil. lucifer can easliy get into someones head and cause people to do things that they normally wouldnt. I in fact have been contacted by God. he has sent visions to me that i wished have not been given to me....but i am a messenger that has to contacted because i am strong willed and can spread his word....i found out just a year ago thats what i am here for.
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Nor do you...your point?

Just because you say you do, doesn't make it so.

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with the good comes evil. yes God is in control, but has vowed to let man kinda do as they please. Man is weak and is often controlled by those that are evil. lucifer can easliy get into someones head and cause people to do things that they normally wouldnt. I in fact have been contacted by God. he has sent visions to me that i wished have not been given to me....but i am a messenger that has to contacted because i am strong willed and can spread his word....i found out just a year ago thats what i am here for.
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Nor do you...your point?

Just because you say you do, doesn't make it so.

Your moniker should be "I'm right, you're wrong."
I respect several peoples beliefs and/or opinions on this board. I don't agree with my friends on alot of issues, but I respect them all the same. You're one to talk about "i'm right, you're wrong"
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I could... but frankly you kind of freak me out.

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sorry but i have been blessed with prophetic dreams...although sometimes i think it is a curse....i dont wanna know, but someone wants me too
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sorry but i have been blessed with prophetic dreams...although sometimes i think it is a curse....i dont wanna know, but someone wants me too
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He's making a Jonestown reference.....

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gotcha but its not those kinda prophetic dreams....im by no means a whacko
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gotcha but its not those kinda prophetic dreams....im by no means a whacko
So what kind of prophetic dreams then? Anything juicy you can prophesy for us?

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gotcha but its not those kinda prophetic dreams....im by no means a whacko
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So what kind of prophetic dreams then? Anything juicy you can prophesy for us?
if you read above it says what it is......and there are some others where i've seen friends getting pregnant...those suck
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if you read above it says what it is......and there are some others where i've seen friends getting pregnant...those suck

Depends on if you were the one doing the impregnating in the dream. Its all about prespective.
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This is not nessesarily directed at you Eric but being pregnant or giving birth in dreams usually has nothing to do with actually being physically pregnant.
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This is not nessesarily directed at you Eric but being pregnant or giving birth in dreams usually has nothing to do with actually being physically pregnant.
How is it interpreted? I did a small share of dream study back in college, but never HAD that dream, so I've never really thought about it.
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